I couldn't agree more! Just seen this earlier today and made sure my wife and kids watched it too. Now that's what I call PARENTING!
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I couldn't agree more! Just seen this earlier today and made sure my wife and kids watched it too. Now that's what I call PARENTING!
Wow...
I think he tried to send a good message but did it in the wrong way. 9 out of 10 of teens probably rebel in one way or another not all that different than what she did (if not a lot worse) and he took what could have been a good teaching moment and made it a lot worse than what it had to be. I mean can all the attention this 15 year old girl is going to get as a result of this be good for her? He completely villified her to the world for a stupid but relatively harmless rant about her parents. Based on his over the top reaction to this issue I can see that he would probably be pretty difficult to live with as a parent.
He gave her name, facebook info and you can easily find out exactly who and where this 15 year old MINOR child lives. I'm sorry but thats pretty messed up.
I'm not trying to defend his daughter, she definately had the wrong attitude but come on she is 15 and could have done something way worse. What would he have done if she had come home pregnant, or with a tattoo or something that actually is sort of a big deal in the grand scheme of things?
I saw this this morning. I was cheering him on.
None yet, and I did think about that as I was writing that maybe I would feel different if I had my own kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Kringle
I do have 5 nephews and nieces that I'm very close with and have watched grow up. The oldest is the same age as the man's daughter. If anyone ever were to put a video like that up about any of them I'd be ready to throw down.
I guess I just don't see the benefit that putting the video up for the world and identifying her adds to what he did for his daughter. Does embarressing her to the world add or take away to the lesson he was teaching her?
Perhaps to word it a different way I think there is a big difference between saying "My daughter who will remain nameless did something stupid, this is to you honey and your friends, you know who you are, and this is your punishment", which would have been way better than what he said that was basically "Her name is XXX and she lives in XXX town and now I'm smearing her name and villifying her to the entire world in addition to the punishment of taking away her stuff."
It just seemed like he went a step or two too far, thats all.
Parenting has to be a Dictatorship sometimes...I'm the Dic and you kids are the tators.
The ole you think you got it bad, well things just got a whole lot worse treatment, got to love it.
I thin k it was great , my Dad would of just beat me lol, I used to think he was nutz when he said it gets tougher trust me !!
I didnt believe in shooting the laptop, but none the less, will teach her a lesson. If not, then nothing will.
I saw this a few days ago. Wonder if I can have the computer... :D
I love it. If my kid did what his just did I would have used a full 40 round clip in the AK. Whats really funny is I didnt notice the gun till about half way threw it then I was like SHOOT THE LAPTOP. I have to say having 2 kids of my own I would have done the same thing.
Haha, I thought the same thing when I saw it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper
Emotional abuse at it's height. I worry for her mental health. And if he would shoot her laptop instead of just putting it away or just selling it, I really wonder what worse things he does it private. I'm sorry I watched....it's just plain scary.
This guy is obviously a control freak. And he's gotten himself into a power struggle with a fifteen year old. What do you think she will do next since he's humiliated her in front of the world? I wouldn't be surprised if she hurts herself in some way. This family needs counseling.
Yes, snotty teenagers who thumb their noses at their parents need to be given a reality check. Kids today are very, very spoiled and disrespectful. Sometimes they need some toughlove. But you have to model mature behavior to them . He could have taken ithe laptop away and given it to charity and done it without any fanfare. If he has to resort to these tactics, he is a very insecure individual who can't tolerate any challenge to his authority. He's the adult - but he acted like the child - no wonder she doesn't have any respect for him.
It was great entertainment, but not great parenting.
Well said, I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrapette
I should stay out of this, only heard one side of the story.I'm sorry Kris Kringle but you did wrong thier. respect gos both ways, you can,t demand it you have to earn it. that,s my .02 By the way I thought this was a scrapping forum.
I respectfully disagree with happyscaper also, MDG. You can post anything you want. BTW, you don't have to be a parent to recognize mental and emotional cruelty. I pictured you as a parent who would give their kids a lot of love and support. I just can't imagine feeling loved if my father treated me this way. We may not all be parents, but all of us have been sons or daughters.
Being a son if I did something like this my dad would have beat my arse till I couldnt sit for a week. In all honisty if my child did this I would wear my belt out on there arse then dial the phone for child services and let them come pick them up. Sadly with the nanny state this country has become if you try and parent your child with anything more than a timeout the state wants to call you a bad parent. Ill stop there before I say something I really regret.
Rant off
My parents were very hard when I did wrong growing up and for that it made me a better person. However, they never showed me that when you get angry/upset that its ok to destroy personal property. They never tried to scare me with a pistol even tho we grew up with them. They were very tough, but always in a loving way. This guy just seems way more into himself than his daughter.
i only get my girls on my weekends and on wednesdays, 11 and 13, very hard to deal with right now especially with me seeing them on such a limited basis. i do like the video, extreme probably, necessary possibly, willl she get the point probably not until she has kids of her own and the same happens to her.
I hope he doesn't keep that gun where his kids can get ahold of it.
I hope so too. His daughter might shoot him for ruining her facebook life. I myself keep my guns where my kids can get to them if need be. They both know how to load them, shoot them, clean them, and use them to protect themselves and our home when im not home. Last thing I want to do is get the phone call you child was abducted because you wernt home when they got home from school by some wierdo. Here I go again sorry for ranting again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapette
Rant off
PTS, how old are your kids if I may ask?
I don't have an issue with the dad shooting the laptop but putting it on FB for all to see, without any privacy filters, will have a lot of unintended consequences.
A number of people have expressed "interest" in his daughter in the comments section, for example. Then there's the fans, the haters, an of course the authorities.
I feel bad for him, you can tell how upset he is as he struggles to speak.
should have never gave her the laptop to begin with!
The construction biz/ice hockey coach/parent has forced me to get creative at times when motivating worker/players/kids and the same thing that works in the now may not work in two hours or tomorrow. I applaud the Dads efforts and he strikes me as someone that is watching out for his kids best interest and will not give up. More then I can say for most parents out there.
My wife is a special needs teacher and is my reality check at times, but we both agree the US is Raising a Nation of Wimps...
http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...1/nation-wimps
And that's the bottom line - At some point, these young people will have to join the real world and face failure. They are totally unprepared for the situation where someone doesn't like them, doesn't like what they've done, place expectations on them or reject them. Unable to cope, they break down into depression, suicide and/or murder. Then the parents claim that society just doesn't understand them. The problem actually is that the kid doesn't understand society.
I'm pretty sure you feel the same way I do about those "Participant Medals".Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Kringle
12 and 15 are my kids ages. They both have been shooting my guns since they were old enuff to hold it themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPirate
Just one question for all to ponder--If he's deserving of "Father of the Year", how did his relationship with his 15 year old deteriorate to the point that he's airing their dirty laundry for the world to see?
QFT! (quoted for truth)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger
I, for one, am glad MDG posted it- I probably wouldn't have seen it otherwise. You keep on trolling youtube, MDG, we're all the better for it!
As I said above, the video is great entertainment. When I watched it I was laughing, I showed it to my sister - who has four grown kids - and she was laughing. Here's a guy pushed to the limits of his sanity by his teenage daughter - it's hard not to relate to that. Even if you don't have kids - we've probably all felt pushed to the edge by someone at sometime and thought about doing something just as crazy.
If it were just a SNL comedy sketch, it would be hilarious period. But it is about a real family with real issues and none of them seem to be handling them very well. This girl is doing the normal push back of adolescence- learning how to be herself in the world. It's an obnoxious stage of development. They know nothing and they think they know everything. Here's a Dad going thermonuclear on her. He wants the best for her - that she appreciate what she has, that she become responsible and respectful of others - but he himself is being very immature and disrespectful and unappreciative of the things and people that he has. He needs to be the adult, so that she can learn how that goes.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I was born 100 years too late. What this particular "FATHER OF THE YEAR" did was nothing less than a perfect job of disciplining his child. Doexn't mean their relationship is "deteriorated" at all. He has a rebellious,15 y/o daughter. Nothing new there. She messed up and it wasn't her first time. Nothing new there either. Only thing different was he chose to put it on facebook. Big deal. It wasn't emotional abuse. She won't be scarred or mental f'd up for life. No authorities, shrinks, or child services needed here. Hopefully she will learn from her mistake and they will move forward.
Personally, I think he did such a great job that I would love to meet him and shake his hand. I would then even offer to give him back the $130 he's out and the $1 per bullet to show my support of his actions and frustrated fathers everywhere.
WAY TO GO, DAD OF THE YEAR!!!
It may have been the perfect response to the situation as it stood the afternoon he made the recording. Sometimes extreme circumstances call for extreme measures. Other times, not. I doubt any of us will ever know enough about the situation to judge for sure.Quote:
nothing less than a perfect job of disciplining his child.
You think he's been shooting holes in her stuff for 15 years? :eek: (Or was this just the first time he felt it necessary to actually empty the magazine?)Quote:
Doexn't mean their relationship is "deteriorated" at all.
She's the result of 15 years of his parenting, so far. And now, apparently, extreme measures seem to be his answer. It's that that calls his record into question, at least for me. How does "Father of the Year" reach such a point?
I wonder who bought the computer in the first place?
Nice grouping, but dude u gotta know how many rounds you have left in your piece. Other than that, very well said.
But why do people feel the need to put personal stuff on Facebook? Not just this, but I see it all the time. It's hard to take people's claim to a right to privacy seriously when they put every little detail about themselves out there for anyone with a computer and an Internet connection. Then you get the ones who post cryptic stuff like "What a terrible day" or "I'm sooooo excited" but not a clue as to what happened.
With parenting you don't always get the instant gratification of whether the actions were a success and he may not know for years to come if his actions were a game changer in her life.
I wonder if he would sell the Colt :D
These are the types of quotes that probably make me shake my head the most. Have you never seen someone who turned out messed-up no matter HOW they were parented/brought up? Good lord, I have often enough! People I went to school with, even a cousin of mine. One of four children, and a real piece of work. The other three are great people. So it must have been that the three other siblings were brought up OK, but he was abused/mis-parented somehow? Seriously? (He's one of the two middle kids btw). Sorry, I strongly disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger
I raised 3 kids and there is always a power struggle with them , we as parents are trying to keep them grounded and they are trying to spread their wings and fly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapette
as much as i shouldnt, im still gonna give my.02
when i was growing up if we did something that dad didnt approve of, we paid for it with his belt. did this stop me from doing what i was told not to?...NO!! but it did make me stop to think about it . those few seconds that i was weighing the reaction to my actions, were a great learning experience. i hate to use the word fear, but the fear of my father beating the skin off me, sure did alot to keep us in line. the way we were raised would most likely be considered child abuse these days. was it NO, it was 2 people trying to turn their rebellious kids into productive members of society. us kids didnt always like our parents, but we always RESPECTED them. as a father looking back, my parents made almost as many mistakes as i did, but they did the best they could with what they had. i wouldnt be the man i am today without them( thanks mom and dad). i FEEL like if more kids were to take these few seconds to think about the feel of that belt on their butts, we wouldnt have a lot of the problems that we are seeing today in the youth of america. the goverment has enough to worry about, it shouldnt spend so much time (and tax $$$)trying to micromanage every aspect of our lives. but that is just my opinion...
^ we only had Dad to give us a licking , my Mom never lifted a hand at , she also never stopped him lol!!