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Any idea what a decent sized tar pot would weigh? Something along the lines of this?
http://www.aduinconstruction.com/ima...es2-110011.JPG
I have a lead on a bunch of old roofing equipment including a few of these with a 50/50 split. Never done anything this big and I need to rent a trailer but my truck only pulls 4000 lbs. I'm trying to figure out of it is worth my time or over my head. Anyone ever set up deals with the scrap yard and a seller to make a small commission even?
That sucker has a few hundred pounds of tar stuck in it. Good luck on this one!
Edit; If they are scrapping it then the flue burned out and is flooded with tar.
The scrap yard told me they do buy the tar pots. There is some other materials like a shingle conveyor,3 large tarpots, and 5 smaller ones, some have motors, as well as a bunch of steel dolly's.
can't see it being over 4k lbs...probably 1200 at most?
Yes...hook it up and tow it in...don't touch it and don't park it where kids might be tempted to play in it. (visions of Uncle Remus) lol.
The problem is all of these no longer roll, and will not be able to be "hooked up and tow it in". I do not own a trailer or a winch but the place with the scrap has a forklift and crane so I would have to rent a trailer then remove the tires since the yard charges $3/50lbs of tire/rim, and figure out logistics I have yet to encounter in scraping. This is no small roofing company and it is a lot of scrap I'd estimate at least 20k lbs total but what do I know.
Well, hate to say it, but it sounds like your in over your head.
Ill tell you how to do this. Get your yard to deliver a roll off. I know my yard will do this and they take $30 per ton off the total weight as payment for the roll off. So if your splitting it 50/50 and they have a forklift for loading it. then you just made 50% for making a phone call.
There is always a way, might not be the most effective or cost efficient but it is possible. Git Er DONE!!
Just put a sticker on the back window of my truck the other day that reads "Got er Done!".Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrapperNJ26
See the difference?
Bwahhaha
Never done anything this big and I need to rent a trailer ,I'd estimate at least 20k lbs total but what do I know
no matter what if you do this job your half should be about 1200, please go buy a trailer if possible a 16ft with ramps so you can haul about anything including cars, always buy tools when you get alot of cash it will help you more than you know
i rather just find the tools in the trash, just got my first angle grinder Monday, thing just needed a new plug put on it. Id agree if your gonna be getting jobs like this its time to get a trailer. **** you get that call for 100 towers and monitors ur gonna need it. just make sure you give me a call to come load it with you ;-p
I do believe I gave the best easiest answer to this problem :) Just call the yard ask them how much they charge/reduce payout to have rolloff delivered use their forklift to load. Call yard back to come pick it up. Get paid.
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DOnt make me sick my rambo smiley on you
Or do what I do. Jack the sob up. Slide a trailer axle under it. Chain and binder it to the frame tight, very tight. Then drive slowly to the yard.
Why not? Are the hitches missing? All I can see from the pic you posted is a few flats. Can they be aired up? Lights probably don't work. Get a magnetic tow light set from Harbor Freight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrapYaHerd
If you want this, you'll get it figured out.
not to be rude, but Sacapyaherd how did you get into this 50/50 deal if all you've got is a new car to haul with? The owner can call a scrap yard to haul it off for him, why bother splitting it if you're not bringing anything to the table?
If you get any money from this, and i strongly mean IF, ALL money made should be used to buy a trailer, and a REAL truck that can be used to pull more than 4k.
Do that and the vets here wont be hollerin' at ya. If you dont plan on doing that, leave the job and let a REAL scrapper take care of it.
Baby steps.
I still say open that kettle up and look inside there is a lot of tar in there. Now look in the tubes, yup more tar.
The yard may take tar kettles but I bet they will say something if it's not cleaned out!
I would like to be around when they go to cut that baby up! I can see it burning to the ground! Once the lid is removed it will be extremely difficult to put out the fire.
TheHoss he doesn't necessarily need a bigger truck. Mine pulls 4k too and all I used for a year. The key is to make due what you have to work with and the ambition, drive to do it. Which this kid don't.
SYH..when you came on the forum in Jan, you said you just scrapped for a hobby. You asked for opinions....mine is that you need to pass on this one. I'm sorry some people were so negative in telling you that, but under all that gruffness they mean well. Nobody wants to see you get burned. BTW others...developmentally disabled jokes really offend me.
I gotta agree with dumpsterdee, leave out the disabled jokes. It may do some good for those who have never been in a children's hospital to go to one for a day. You may have a different outlook.
THIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper
Call around.
Some will drop off and pick up for free as long as they are buying the scrap.
That's the deal I have on my roll off.
Yep local yard does that here as well they just pay you 20 bucks less a ton for whats in the rolloff. But there is no up front charge for the rolloff. Seems like a win win to me. Specialy if your talking 20 tons of scrap. At shred price you should still clear a couple grand easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo
I'd suggest the rolloff route as well. If you try hauling this yourself with a rented trailer, you still may not be insured properly in case something happens going down the road. It may be a little less money, but a lot less hassle.
Chances are the flues have holes in them and if you tried to heat it up and drain it, you'd have the fire brigade on your ass. Cut off what you can with a torch and dump the pot in the woods somewhere! Remember there double sided with insulation in between. Asphalt and bitumen are considered hazardous waste down here and you cant put that in a land fill. I once purchased a used tar pot myself and lit it up, and let me tell you the flues were burned out, you should have seen the fire!
I would say well said there Marc. BUT dump it in the woods? You will be making no friends here with that lack of consideration!
Not to mention you just admitted to doing this yourself in an open forum for all to read!
I wonder how many of our law enforcement members are here today.
So we just dump it in the woods??? LMAO
Really, what else can you do with it once its separated? How do you dispose of tar? And how much trash have you found in the woods? Law enforcement huh? Scrap yards depend on thieves to stay in business man, I seen many grocery carts loaded with brand new copper after Katrina in New Orleans and very few arrest's I would think. If you want prim and proper get out of the scrap industry.
No Dew He is saying to dump the problem in the woods for the land owner to have to take care of. If it's public land we pay for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Kringle
I have said already this is not a good scrap deal!
But you sir Marc, You are a old school thinker that is the cause of all the friggen laws being made today!
No you don't have to break the law!!!!! You may but we don't. Good day sir, you are on my Iggy list!
Careful, roofermarc, careful. Not that kind of forum here. Keep it legal. Keep it on the up n up. I know where ya coming from. I seen it too. Don't mean we have to be a part of it. You n me, we the only 2 Louisiana scrappers here. Lets represent our great state well.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofermarc
No, if you want to do it the WRONG way, then YOU please get out of the scrap industry. I am sure I speak for most everyone hear on this matter. Doing things illegally and/or causing a mess for someone else, is why we are all looked down upon and laws get set in place to make things harder for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofermarc
I just wonder how much of the "woods", you know that magic dump place, is now paved with layers of old fiberglass , asphalt, shingles and old pitch( asbestos).
Dude You personally make me sick!! You give scrappers and roofers a bad name! Are you still using staples? LOL
Question; Who wants a roof put on there house from this fine roof contractor?
"and very few arrest's I would think."
They arrest. This isn't even for copper:
http://www.wafb.com/story/16618561/o...-drain-thieves
Is that why you dont respond to my posts anymore? (goes and cries in the corner)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Kringle
Condoning illegal activities on the forum won't be tolerated. If anyone sees this happening on the forum, please report it.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofermarc
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Dang, I tried to warn him. Oh well, please don't get the impression all Louisiana scrappers have this mindset. I admit at one point I thought a little differently than I do now, but thanks to this forum and the members here I now know how to do things correctly, legally, and environmentally friendly. I only hope others get as much help from SMF as I have.
On the tar pots, is there any brass/non ferrous? Never scrapped one, prolly never will, but it might help the OP if he goes forward with this.
I scrapped a large grease trap oil container type thing once....Had to use a suck pump to get all the refuse out of it then hauled it on to the yard....FUN FUN
i ran a crack filler one summer while i worked for the city. ours had propane tanks and everything inside was basically a large bbq grill. several brass fittings and valves for the flow of tar and a real large valve at the applicator handle