My dad caught scrappers loading up my scrap

Today my dad heard some noise outside of his house. It was around lunch hour. He looked out the back window and saw two guys who backed up his driveway and were loading my scrap pile into their truck. He and others in the nighborhood save scrap for me and I pick it up every other week. This scrap was probably 20ft from the ally and behind a fence. They told my dad that they were doing nothing wrong and they were just taking "scrap". They unloaded all the scrap back off the truck into the pile and kept saying they were not doing anthing wrong, but they also had his gas grill in the truck. Good thing they didn't try anything my dad is an angry old marine and most likely had his 1911 on him.

These are the kind of people that are going to end it for us. There will soon be laws that you cannot drive around and pick up scrap.

They are been plenty of scrap crime around here as well. One day, one customer told me that someone was so desperate, they took the metal lid off of her steel drum that she puts something in for disposal.

They knew what they were doing wrong...if nothing else, they were trespassing.

Im guessing they thought nobody was home. He is retired and keeps his truck in the garage. I bet they just go around durring the day when nobody is home. My parents live in a real rough neighborhood and I've been trying to get them to move.

Punch them in the face.....

Load your shot gun loads with rock salt. Pepper there a**.

Nothing says "Please stop doing that" like a loaded 1911. Tell you dad Semfer Fi for me, Mike.

Hmm, I guess better them getting away with it then you having to deal with a dead guy's lawsuit...and they didn't get your scrap!

We get thieves stealing our stuff every night. My clients tell them "No scrap, we have a guy" and they'll just come by at night.
They are always hitting our two furnace and a/c guys. I ask if they can keep it inside but they don't have the floor space.
The stupid thing is, there's camera's at both spots. However, the property owners don't want to get involved.
Any how Karma is a *****, and the "Scrap Gods" are still good to us. They steal one unit, we get two units some where else.
As a side note, When we first started scrapping in 1995, in Vancouver, all the scrappers had baseball bats and we used them.
Now that we are older and wiser, that is no longer an option for us.
Scott and Betty
DivaPickers

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Originally Posted by Hypoman

Punch them in the face.....

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Now where have I heard this super advice from before???? You tell em brother!

No dm2442, they might end it for us but first someone will end it for them with a sawed off shotgun.

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Originally Posted by divapickers

We get thieves stealing our stuff every night. My clients tell them "No scrap, we have a guy" and they'll just come by at night.
They are always hitting our two furnace and a/c guys. I ask if they can keep it inside but they don't have the floor space.
The stupid thing is, there's camera's at both spots. However, the property owners don't want to get involved.

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If it were me I would get the clients to sign a contract that says once they put it outside it is yours. Then you would have standing to go to the police and say this is my stuff, the contract says so, and here is the video of these guys stealing it.

Starbits

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If it were me I would get the clients to sign a contract that says once they put it outside it is yours. Then you would have standing to go to the police and say this is my stuff, the contract says so, and here is the video of these guys stealing it.

Starbits

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We have found that no one will sign contract due to liability. We even have our own workman compensation and liability insurance and people still won't sign contracts.

When it comes to a 1911....there is one thing someone should do before getting shot.....calling 911.

Thank god I live in colorado. You show up in my back yard im going to empty my 40 round clip of 7.62x39 in your arse.

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Hmm, I guess better them getting away with it then you having to deal with a dead guy's lawsuit...and they didn't get your scrap!

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Dead men tell no tales, I'm sorry if you don't agree but that is my opinion and my right to have it.

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Originally Posted by Mechanic688

Dead men tell no tales, I'm sorry if you don't agree but that is my opinion and right to have it.

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They dont come back for seconds either :)

I parked my truck out front on garbage night once. Fully loaded. It came to 1320 lbs when i went to the yard later that week. anyways, it was about 2am. Im still out in the back and a van drove passed with 4 or 5 bed mattress on it. It came by a couple more times really slow. So I went out front with my bootleg double barrel shot gun. (made it from a weed wacker handle and 2 black alum pipes and duct tape) Waited, they came back again. I stood there. They saw me and floored it. Haven't seen them again. Crack heads ruin it for everyone.

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So I went out front with my bootleg double barrel shot gun. (made it from a weed wacker handle and 2 black alum pipes and duct tape) Waited, they came back again. I stood there. They saw me and floored it. Haven't seen them again. Crack heads ruin it for everyone.

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I hope you don't run into one carrying a sat. nite special.

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These are the kind of people that are going to end it for us. There will soon be laws that you cannot drive around and pick up scrap.

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I know that i DD & curb shop which technically is illegal even by me . But once the police get used to seeing you around with Zero complaints they leave you be. i'll pick & a police car will just drive by the other type will get caught in the end .

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I hope you don't run into one carrying a sat. nite special.

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LOL!!! Its Monday night so it would be a monday night special! Yeah, the poilce dont bother me to. They just wave and keep goin. The town to the north, Someone broke in and tied up the home owners and stole there washer, dryer, and water heater. Thats what ya get linvin next to the big city i guess.....

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Originally Posted by divapickers

We get thieves stealing our stuff every night. My clients tell them "No scrap, we have a guy" and they'll just come by at night.
They are always hitting our two furnace and a/c guys. I ask if they can keep it inside but they don't have the floor space.
The stupid thing is, there's camera's at both spots. However, the property owners don't want to get involved.
Any how Karma is a *****, and the "Scrap Gods" are still good to us. They steal one unit, we get two units some where else.
As a side note, When we first started scrapping in 1995, in Vancouver, all the scrappers had baseball bats and we used them.
Now that we are older and wiser, that is no longer an option for us.
Scott and Betty
DivaPickers

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What if you were to get a couple used dog kennels to leave at the AC shops? It would pay for itself with the profit off one unit saved!
You would have to bolt it down real good but it would be clear that taking anything from inside it is theft.

Just seen on TV locally the cops are looking for the people that has stole more then 20 Ac units in the past few weeks. They show the pictures of the units that were scrapped right in place and they are only taking the coils! All the copper is still there! They took 6 units from a POW=MIA building of some sort.

Sad! These units cost like $10,000 each to replace and the scum are making off with maybe $60.00 worth of coil. I don't use a hatchet for tear downs but I would love to sink it into one of these jerks head!

I woulda taken down the plate number, and told them they picked the wrong house...that I would be calling all m my y scrapper friends, along with every yard in a 25 mile radius and handing their info over, especially if their taking not only scrap, but personal property (the grill.) Honestly, i think it would work much better than a shotgun, lol.

I thought my scrap pile was hit once, I came home after being gone for a weekend to find my stuff spread around...turns out it was just the little girls next door trying to get at an old princess card table and some of those little dolly strollers i had picked up...my neighbor told me he chased them off, and they havn't dug through it since.

Did you give them the toys?

Maybe take a pic with a camera phone if it happens again (hopefully not) give it to the police and email it to the yards. People who know they are stealing are not happy to have photographic evidence of it. You may want to post a sign just to make it crystal clear that this stuff isn't up for grabs. A couple hyper rottweilers may be helpful as well.

I have had a couple of problems with other people in the last few weeks, so it pretty much world wide now..

One stole a microwave oven from a pile & they were too stupid to know it was a ali wound transformer in it.
Another saw a car dumped on a property, 1/2 in 1/2 out, got two mates & turned up to remove said car.
Just then the owner happened to pass by.. they jumped in their cars & took off.

But I expect more.
Camera your areas is all I can think of, hurting people is a 'no no' here, no guns at all.

For evidence, if you spray your metal with a slight spray of water/alcohol with a 'highliter pens' ink in it, it'll show up under a UV light.
Same with the carpenters chalkline chalk dust, its UV florescent.

Even tiny amounts show up under UV, you won't see it under normal light, Cops have the UV light setups, LED torch with UV LED's.

little rock is going to pass new copper laws requiring the yards to get all kinds of id and a thumb print. the illegal scrappers just hit a bunch of schools and did several hundred thousands of damage.

oshkosh requires a license to drive around and scrap.

restrictions are coming.