Prayers - please

Might sound a bit odd, even for a off topic discussion area.

However, I would like to ask you all for your prayers. Not sure what is causing the pain, but I am having pain in my chest, near my heart. I am not real worried about it, as this has been going on for years ever since I was a pre-teen. I also know the reason that has caused it all in the past.

However, this has been constant since earlier this afternoon, to the point where it has hurt to breathe a little.

If I am not better in the morning, I am going to the doctor. Also, no one freak out to bad, I am very much used to this. Just haven't experienced it in about 1 1/2 years until today.

Thanks guys/girls!

I hope things turn out ok George. I will definitely say a prayer for you tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSYuzwRsr48

Get better or go to a Doctor! The link was just for fun!

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Originally Posted by Dumpster-Dee

I hope things turn out ok George. I will definitely say a prayer for you tonight.

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Thanks Dee.

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Originally Posted by Kris Kringle

Sending Prayers here George. I would go to ER Now. but thats just me.

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Normally, I would agree with you. Like I said though, this has been going on for like ever for me. I am used to it, but normally it is like small blood clots that get stuck, build up, and then push their way through. I think what I did, was bruise my chest some how..not sure how, but that is my guess.

Also, never fails that no matter how many doctors that I see, I always get told something different, or you wait FOREVER that by the time your seen, it all stops and they find nothing.

My wife has been watching me like a hawk lol

hope every thing is ok with you but if you have a blockage, the longer you wait the more of your hart dies no matter how close your wife watches.

Make sure you go to the doc in the morning just to be safe!

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Originally Posted by olddude

hope every thing is ok with you but if you have a blockage, the longer you wait the more of your hart dies no matter how close your wife watches.

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To be honest, I am not sure if what I have always had happen to me was small blood clots or not. My ex gf's mother was the one who told me about that. She used to be a nurse or something and knew a few people, including herself with situations like me.

I have what is considered a "caved in chest"....basically how most people's chest bones are straight across, mine is curved in, in the middle. Weird, I know, but that is what I got. The reason for my issues most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Ptscrapper

Make sure you go to the doc in the morning just to be safe!

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Right now, the area is just really sore, so I am guessing I bruised it...just not sure how.

If it is still this way tomorrow morning, I will be going to see what is causing the pain.

You'll be in my prayers tonight.

Don't know you personally George, chest pain is scary for anyone. You will be in my prayers. Hope you feel better!

Jon

You'll be in my prayers too George, but please quit putting it off and have it checked out. You sound just like I did back in '99 -2000, it'll be fine, I'm ok, just heartburn or something. In 2004 I had triple bypass surgery and believe me, it's not fun! Hope it's nothing serious, but get it checked out anyway.

We're thinking of you up here Geo. but you might talk to your doctor about an aspirin regiment. I think that's an alternative to blood clots,,,

Praying for you in Jesus name!

George you may want to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pectus_excavatum

Have you been coughing? If so you could of bruised the lung and or a rib that could cause a huge amount of pain that will last and last for a long amount of time.

Did you get hit in the chest in the last few days? Sometimes it could be a day or two before the pain hits when you bruised the rib.

Well I hope everything is better and you have my prayers.

George, this is nothing to play with. You need to call 911 and go the ER when you have chest pain. You need to see a cardiologist in order to find out what is causing your pain. What caused it before may not be what has been causing it lately. You need to see a specialist, seriously. I used to be a nurse, in fact, for awhile I worked in the cardiac care ICU. Many people have heart attacks and don't even know it - they just show up on an EKG later - if they survive that is. If you smoke, you need to stop now- smoking increases the chances of sudden cardiac death astronomically.

I'm praying for your health. I'm also praying that you will take this seriously and not rest until you have an answer. There are many conditions that cause chest pain - some of which are potentially lethal. You could have a heart rythm disturbance that comes and goes and you may need to wear a monitor for 24 hours ( maybe on more than one occasion) in order to catch it.

My sister has a condition called atrial fibrillation and it took her awhile to be diagnosed because it would come and go- it was never present when she was at the doctor's office. I finally had to drag her to the hospital one night when she was having chest pain (btw she's a nurse too but was afraid) and she started getting the treatment she needed. Atrial fibrillation can lead to blood clots in the heart and can result in a stroke or death if untreated. I'm not saying that is what you have but it is just an example of the kind of thing that causes intermittent chest pain.

You seem like an intelligent man, please think of your family and give this the attention it deserves.

Hey George I hope all is well. I also suggest you go see a Doctor.

Good luck dude.

Hope all is ok George! No matter what it is, remain optimistic.

Hope your feeling better George. If not yourself, think about your wife and family when deciding if you need to be checked out.

George, please go see the DOC! Thinking about you & in my prayers!!!

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Originally Posted by Scrap Junky

You'll be in my prayers too George, but please quit putting it off and have it checked out. You sound just like I did back in '99 -2000, it'll be fine, I'm ok, just heartburn or something. In 2004 I had triple bypass surgery and believe me, it's not fun! Hope it's nothing serious, but get it checked out anyway.

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Someone in my family, (dont remember who now), had to have some sort of surgery, and you are right. Not fun. My one cousin that is like a brother to me, has heart issues as well. Destroyed his basketball career. Doctor gave him an ultimatum...either continue with basketball and die, or quit and live. Obviously he choose to live. Now he is doing his second love which is working on cars all the time.

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Originally Posted by Mechanic688

We're thinking of you up here Geo. but you might talk to your doctor about an aspirin regiment. I think that's an alternative to blood clots,,,

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I don't have a doctor. To me, they are like vampires with medical licenses lol. Not trying to be funny, but that is how I have always viewed them. Like I said, I have ALWAYS gotten told something different no matter what doctor or specialist I have seen. The only thing that has come up a few times, was as I mentioned before, was small blood clots, that would build up and then push their way through. To me, the pain would come, when the artery (exploded) to let the blood flow go again.

I will look into an aspirin regiment though. Right now, when I get headaches, I pop about 2 or 3 (depending on how bad it is) of ibuprofen and it is gone with in 10 to 15 minutes.

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Originally Posted by gustavus

George you may want to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pectus_excavatum

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Yeah, that is what I have been told that I have. Luckily, mine is NOT as bad as that guy in the picture, and mine is not totally noticeable, especially if you don't know that I have it.

A doctor in a free medical clinic here, is the guy who told me about the chest bone in the middle being curved in, and close to my heart.

I have also been told that if I got hit just right, at the right angle, it would kill me, but that has definitely been proven to be wrong, as I have been hit countless times in my chest by various things, and nothing has ever happened.

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Originally Posted by easyrecycle

Have you been coughing? If so you could of bruised the lung and or a rib that could cause a huge amount of pain that will last and last for a long amount of time.

Did you get hit in the chest in the last few days? Sometimes it could be a day or two before the pain hits when you bruised the rib.

Well I hope everything is better and you have my prayers.

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I don't remember being hit, but then again, that don't mean nothing. It didn't start till yesterday late morning/early afternoon. A friend of mine, needed an extra to help them change out (charcoal air filters) in a hyatt hotel. These filters help to absorb the odor in the air.

They were heavy, but like I said, to my knowledge, I never got hurt.

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Originally Posted by Scrapette

George, this is nothing to play with. You need to call 911 and go the ER when you have chest pain. You need to see a cardiologist in order to find out what is causing your pain. What caused it before may not be what has been causing it lately. You need to see a specialist, seriously. I used to be a nurse, in fact, for awhile I worked in the cardiac care ICU. Many people have heart attacks and don't even know it - they just show up on an EKG later - if they survive that is. If you smoke, you need to stop now- smoking increases the chances of sudden cardiac death astronomically.

I'm praying for your health. I'm also praying that you will take this seriously and not rest until you have an answer. There are many conditions that cause chest pain - some of which are potentially lethal. You could have a heart rythm disturbance that comes and goes and you may need to wear a monitor for 24 hours ( maybe on more than one occasion) in order to catch it.

My sister has a condition called atrial fibrillation and it took her awhile to be diagnosed because it would come and go- it was never present when she was at the doctor's office. I finally had to drag her to the hospital one night when she was having chest pain (btw she's a nurse too but was afraid) and she started getting the treatment she needed. Atrial fibrillation can lead to blood clots in the heart and can result in a stroke or death if untreated. I'm not saying that is what you have but it is just an example of the kind of thing that causes intermittent chest pain.

You seem like an intelligent man, please think of your family and give this the attention it deserves.

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I have seen, I don't even remember how many specialist. Have been told (irradic heart rhythms), (asthma), (caved in chest), (blood clots), and I don't even remember all the rest.

The asthma and caved in chest, and blood clot, I know for a fact that are there. Funny thing is, I haven't had the blood clots (which is what always caused the pain) in a few hours.

I appreciate the concern, and trust me, if it wasn't for my wife and kids, I probably would just write it off, and let it go. However, they mean the world to me, and I am not prepared to leave them yet, even though they be taken care of. I do plan to have it checked out.

I am not having anymore pains, except for on my left breast area. There is some tenderness there, so I must have bruised it at some point, or it could be something else, but since it is near my heart, I am not trying to play with death.

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Originally Posted by KZBell

Hope your feeling better George. If not yourself, think about your wife and family when deciding if you need to be checked out.

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I will be.

George you sound like your old enough to have had to put in some military time, you would have had a full medical examination which would have revealed your Pectus excavatum ( hollowed chest ) you would hen have had full knowledge of your medical condition then not had to rely of other people hearsay.

You also old enough not to have the need for pampering, I'm sure that there are others on this forum much worse off than you are. If you refuse to see a Doctor at least pay a visit to a priest or Rabbi of your choosing.

GE0. I'm going to have to go with gus on this one. Your cavalier attitude toward you health is a sign of serious immaturity. Especially after getting us all concerned...then you play it down. I believe you need to go to a licensed therapist who can help you deal with these issues.

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Originally Posted by gustavus

George you sound like your old enough to have had to put in some military time, you would have had a full medical examination which would have revealed your Pectus excavatum ( hollowed chest ) you would hen have had full knowledge of your medical condition then not had to rely of other people hearsay.

You also old enough not to have the need for pampering, I'm sure that there are others on this forum much worse off than you are. If you refuse to see a Doctor at least pay a visit to a priest or Rabbi of your choosing.

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I am 26, but with no military time. Funny as it sounds, I missed going in by 2 points, thanks to the math tests.

I wasn't asking for pampering/babying or anything else. Just a prayer that it is nothing more serious, then what I have been used to all of my life is all.

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Originally Posted by Dumpster-Dee

GE0. I'm going to have to go with gus on this one. Your cavalier attitude toward you health is a sign of serious immaturity. Especially after getting us all concerned...then you play it down. I believe you need to go to a licensed therapist who can help you deal with these issues.

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Dee, with all due respect, I may be a lot of things (especially from what I am told over the years growing up), but immature is definitely not one of them. I lost my mother when I was 14 years old, and basically have taken care of myself since then. And no, I have never said or believed that I am better or worse than anyone else.

Also, if I were to play this all down, this thread would not exist. You must not have read the parts, that these pains have been ongoing for over 10 years now. Not something, that I am NOT used to. I just don't care to pay hundreds or thousands in hospital expenses or doctors expenses to be fed the same Bologna that I have gotten all my life.

This does have me concerned, especially when it has NEVER lasted this long...right now, it hurts if I move a certain way, and especially if I press the area. Which is why, soon as my wife gets back, I am going to the ER to get checked out. I am sure it is nothing, but I much rather be safe, then dead.

Also, your comment of a licensed therapist is not needed. Read everything I have written in this thread, and you will see why.

Is there any particular charity that you favor over another that I could pledge a donation on your passing.

When it become known that my father had terminal cancer, they operated on him installing a colostomy bag, First day out of the hospital he's out mowing the lawn when a buddy of mine tells me what a jerk I am.

I told him that he should then go over and demand that my father remove himself form the mower then hop into his death bed where he belonged. My father was an avid gardener when he become ill I planted the vegetable crop, he would drag himself along the rows weeding. Pretty pathetic to watch but the man was going to finish his days the way he seen fit.

He passed his final moments in his home with family, that was a very rewarding experience. Sure I hated to see him leave, after all he had become my best friend, but with the pain he was going through it would have been selfish of me to ask him to stay longer.

I agree with you on one count Geo, you've been dealt a bad hand, its time to man up.

well the winner of the main, was something that i did yesterday caused something in my chest wall to get inflamed. i have costochrondritis. Doctor gave me some anti inflamatory meds that i take 2 a day for a week.

Thanks everyone for the concern.

I was trying to play off the pain but going on almost 24 hours, i realized it wasnt exactly the same as the last 10+ years.

I for one am glad you went to the doc!

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Originally Posted by gustavus

Is there any particular charity that you favor over another that I could pledge a donation on your passing.

When it become known that my father had terminal cancer, they operated on him installing a colostomy bag, First day out of the hospital he's out mowing the lawn when a buddy of mine tells me what a jerk I am.

I told him that he should then go over and demand that my father remove himself form the mower then hop into his death bed where he belonged. My father was an avid gardener when he become ill I planted the vegetable crop, he would drag himself along the rows weeding. Pretty pathetic to watch but the man was going to finish his days the way he seen fit.

He passed his final moments in his home with family, that was a very rewarding experience. Sure I hated to see him leave, after all he had become my best friend, but with the pain he was going through it would have been selfish of me to ask him to stay longer.

I agree with you on one count Geo, you've been dealt a bad hand, its time to man up.

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Your dad and mine sound a lot a like. My father was the same. He was always out doing something regardless of being sick or not.

He didnt let anything really get him down.

Unfortunately, he developed some aneurisms in his leg...docs refused to operate, put him on meds, meals and wheels, etc.

The only thing i ever regretted was not being there when he passed but was grateful to have one last 3 hour conversation with him the night before he passed away.


Ps. whenever i do pass on, you can make the donation to eithr st jude or any charity that does breast cancer.

Now we feel better but atleast you had the guts to admit something was wrong with you in the first place, so many people ignore their health.

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Originally Posted by Ptscrapper

Now we feel better but atleast you had the guts to admit something was wrong with you in the first place, so many people ignore their health.

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Yeah, I knew something was/had to be wrong when it definitely was not going away.

Even then, I just felt like I bruised the area some how, and then this morning, it was still there, so I decided it was time.

Next time (hopefully there isn't none), I won't wait as long.

Just stubborness makes us all do things we shouldn't.

Being a carpenter by trade, I've move a lot of lumber over the years and the back would start screaming sometimes, but I found if I smacked my thumb with my hammer I didn't think about my back anymore.

I did read every word George. I, too, am glad you went to the Dr. The fact that you posted that you were having chest pains DID concern us all. You did say you'd had them all your life, but you didn't tell us the whole story. So we worry and we send up (?) prayers ( which doesn't matter because God knows what's going on anyway) , we post concern....THEN you tell us that it's not that big of a deal....that if it persists MAYBE you'll go to the Doctor. George, telling you that you need to see a therapist is not an insult. Therapy, for the educated (self or formal) no longer holds the stigma that it once did. Haven't you heard? The very fact that you were insulted answers that for me. I would advise anyone I know to get help immediately if they have a life-long problem and have not kept going to specialists until they received a definitive diagnosis. The Mayo Clinic is famous for finding the root cause of all kinds of symptoms. You admitted stubbornness, as if that kept you from being responsible and taking care of your health. You talk about having more businesses than you can shake a stick at and yet you spend your time scrapping. Not many business men scrap. My point is that nobody likes a braggart. I'm not saying that you don't have all these businesses, and forums and whatever, but I'm inclined to believe that these are shields to inflate your fragile ego. My statement that I would advise therapy still stands....and it is only because I care about you.

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Originally Posted by Dumpster-Dee

I did read every word George. I, too, am glad you went to the Dr. The fact that you posted that you were having chest pains DID concern us all. You did say you'd had them all your life, but you didn't tell us the whole story. So we worry and we send up (?) prayers ( which doesn't matter because God knows what's going on anyway) , we post concern....THEN you tell us that it's not that big of a deal....that if it persists MAYBE you'll go to the Doctor. George, telling you that you need to see a therapist is not an insult. Therapy, for the educated (self or formal) no longer holds the stigma that it once did. Haven't you heard? The very fact that you were insulted answers that for me. I would advise anyone I know to get help immediately if they have a life-long problem and have not kept going to specialists until they received a definitive diagnosis. The Mayo Clinic is famous for finding the root cause of all kinds of symptoms. You admitted stubbornness, as if that kept you from being responsible and taking care of your health. You talk about having more businesses than you can shake a stick at and yet you spend your time scrapping. Not many business men scrap. My point is that nobody likes a braggart. I'm not saying that you don't have all these businesses, and forums and whatever, but I'm inclined to believe that these are shields to inflate your fragile ego. My statement that I would advise therapy still stands....and it is only because I care about you.

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That is right, because to me, it was no big deal. When you live with someone for so long, and it has become a part of every day life, you just tend not to worry about it anymore. Only reason I got concerned, because the pain stayed, and would not go away. Never has happened before, but then again, never had something in my chest get inflamed either.

Going to multiple specialists is alright, if you keep getting the same diagnosis, but when you get a different one each time, you see a new doctor, or specialist, then after a while, you say the heck with it. After a while, you will end up with 50 different supposed things wrong with you.

We all have stubborness about one thing or another. We may not all admit it all the time, but we all have them.

Regarding my businesses. I currently have 3. As everyone knows, my auction site is new, and have not spent a lot of time advertising or anything else.

My investment company, I mainly dealt with cash flow notes...then one day, find that 98% of my investors stopped buying and was moving to fix and flips, rehabs, REOs, everything but cash flows.

Then, I realized I had 2 options. Sell, or come up with another niche that I could invest with. Then I discovered Short Sales, and Wholesaling RE, which will be ginning in February or March one.

I do scrapping because I love to tear things apart and smash them into a million pieces, and because I can help my clients save hundreds of dollars, and still offer the same level of professional service that places like 1800gotjunk and junkbgone can do, for a fraction of the price.

You say not many businessman scrap...well I say that, I know several handful that do, and they are in my backyard (figuratively speaking), and on this forum. Don't mean to come off as a bragger...I have only answered people's questions here and there, and have talked about how my RE investing works out well with doing scrapping and junk hauling.

Yawn...

George,
Firstly i have only just seens your request for prayers, apologies.
Im really pleased that you did finally go and see a Doctor, you say that you are stubborn and get fed-up with seeing different Doctors and each time receiving a different diagnosis, honestly George i know exactly what you mean.

However mate, i know that it is extremely frustrating but you must continue to get medical attention when required and dont leave it too long!

Keep taking the tablets, stay strong mate!
BE Lucky

A prayer goes out to you for a speedy recovery mate.

yeah i alway go when it is something that i know for sure isnt normal.

With the stuff that has happened for years, by the time a doc sees you, it is gone and they just send you home.

I think the pain was caused by the lack of being picked at. Sorry Geo I will try harder, that will be my new years resolution.

last time I was stubborn I spent 23 days in Maine Med . with congestive heart failure , please take care of yourself

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB

yeah i alway go when it is something that i know for sure isnt normal.

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Yeah i understand what you are saying mate, you know when the pains are different from the "normal " pain?

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB

With the stuff that has happened for years, by the time a doc sees you, it is gone and they just send you home.

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But you just have to keep an eye on things mate, and when the pains are different try to get seen by medical staff ASAP

Be Lucky

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Originally Posted by skipRAT

Yeah i understand what you are saying mate, you know when the pains are different from the "normal " pain?




But you just have to keep an eye on things mate, and when the pains are different try to get seen by medical staff ASAP

Be Lucky

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Hard to explain, but yeah. Certain things I have been used to for YEARS...those have never been life threatening or damaging, so I just let them pass. This was a different story. Just glad that it wasn't nothing serious.

By all means go to the Doctor! Don't think about the bill or the time spent there, just do it!! Your Body is trying to tell you something. Ignoring or secound guessing it wont make it go away. At least do it for your loved ones!! And piece of mind.

You have my prayers. God Bless You