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Is it really worth it to ship low grade boards and power supplies? I don't have a scale to weigh what I got but I got a huge box full of power supplies and another full box of low grade boards. What does everyone else do? Sorry,just a paranoid noobie that doesn't want to loose money. TIA
LtL is the cheapest method to ship small loads, but it's most likely going to cost more $, per pound, than the boards are worth. ( the gaylords and pallets can cost more that the value of the boards sometimes (( you can't always get everything for free )) )
Some members may suggest you load up your truck and drive to the recycling center yourself, but you need to figure out costs ( gas, truck maintenance, your personal time, e.t.c. ) before you do it.
Others are going to suggest you mail in the junk along with your higher $ items. The only thing this will do is lower profit margins by increasing shipping costs.
If you are a high volume processor, hiring out a full semi is the absolute cheapest method to ship. Trucking companies charge per mile, so you need to know distance and the per mile fees.
You need to know the weight you are shipping. You need to know the rate to ship one pallet from your location to your buyer. You will need to answer these questions.
Here is a link for a scale listed on ebay. Its not big enough to weigh an entire pallet but you can fill a tote and add up what you put on the pallet. I am NOT recommending the scale in the listing its just an example of what might work for you at a low price.
Since you are in Conway you have a lot of options of whose dock to ship from. I live in a town with one dock and no way to take a pallet from the back of my pick up and put it on the dock. I'm forced put a bunch of material in the tuck with a pallet and build the pallet on the dock. Not fun but way better price than fedex.
If you want a truck to come to your location and you don't have a dock then there is an additional charge, I'll guessing $100.00(lift gate charge).
We have a member who specializes in arranging shipping and is happy to answer your questions with real answers. Hopefully someone will be able to add his name as I can't recall it at this time.
Some of the buyers will be able provide you a good estimate of shipping.
One thing that is important is knowing just how big/tall a pallet you can ship because the bigger heavier the lower the shipping cost per pound.
As is the norm for questions like yours the answer depends on you and your circumstances not what works for me. 73, Mike
you have been given good advice so far.
we cant give more specific advice unless we know a lot more about what you have
and how often u get stuff & what quantities etc
some pics that show the assortment of low grade boards u have would also be helpful.
If I can help you I am available anytime. I have a post in the buyers section where you can get my number.
Gorven ^^^ is the name you were trying to remember. Very easy to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by miked
I have a much longer distance to ship and no local option for getting rid of power supplies and low grade boards even at bad prices so I've shipped mine all the way to the northern midwest from Las Vegas. At this distance, shipping at around 2500 lbs, low grade and power boards were better than the cost of shipping, power supplies were not. Use the good advice given above and you can figure out what will work for you.
For me it is worth it so ship low grade boards and power supplies. However, I don't ship until I have at least two Gaylords full. When shipping on a pallet, part of the equation is weight, the other is volume. I work very hard to pack a Gaylord as full as possible to make sure I'm shipping material and not wasted space. I usually load the Gaylords when they are in the back of my truck. That way I can drive to the nearest freight terminal and they use their forklift to take the Gaylord/pallet out of my truck. What works for me is to cut all the wires off the power supplies and stack them in the bottom of the Gaylord. I can get more weight in a smaller space that way. In the spaces remaining I can fill those empty spaces with wire that I have put into trash bags. I then use separate boxes to sort out the various types of components which are then place on top of the power supplies. Yes, it is like a jigsaw puzzle putting various sized boxes in the smallest space. At least I am hoping that it saves time for the buyer as I have semi-sorted the boards I'm sending. I usually end up with boxes that stick up 1-2 feet above the top of the Gaylord. That doesn't allow stacking during transport, but it does allow me go get more weight on a pallet. You have to be creative to get as much material in the Gaylord as possible. I try to have enough power supplies and low grade boards included that will cover the cost of the freight. That way I always feel that I traded the lower value items for the freight cost and the high grade items didn't cost anything to send. Not everyone would agree with my method, but it does work for me.
See if you can sell local.
I get .20 lb local for brown/brown
I get .50 lb local for brown power supply boards
If I were to ship to Ohio.. it cost me .34/lb. So Brown/Brown I'd lose $ (-.14/lb)
Even if Mario Paid .50/lb on Power supply boards, it wouldn't be worth it to me to garnish .16/lb after shipping (this is not even taking into account the cost of the boxes and shipping materials to get it there)
Local is really your best bet.. if you have the opportunity.
Thank you all for the info!! I forgot to mention that I have no local buyer so shipping is my only option. I can see where the power supplies will pack tighter without the wires so I can occupy my time in the garage snipping wires and packing totes tighter for now. I will keep hoarding until summer and take a chance and see what happens. Thanks again.....also,,can someone recommend a decent scale at a fair price?
I bought an analog 100 pound Pelouze scale like this one ...
https://www.ebay.com/p/Pelouze-Heavy...d=253189264751
If i'm building a pallet, I pack in smaller boxes then add the weights together. Most of the time I am just shipping out >65 lb boxes through Fedex. It has worked well for me.
$0.50 for brown power supply boards is awesome. What are you getting for green power supply boards?Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
That tends to fluctuate a bit- but between .65 and .80/lb.Quote:
Originally Posted by mthomasdev
My local has a shredder.. so they can grind up my green/green and brown power supply boards onsite and have it sort into the proper gaylords.
They recently also got a granulator, so they can pay me the .50/lb on wire and have it strip out into sweet sweet solid copper bits. Good stuff!
Sorry I thought I had included a link for a scale, here is an example from ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by CopperheadDave
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Accuteck-44...YAAOSw1LRZtKnT
I have to assume you are shipping 65lb boxes via fedex. I recommend you consider shipping pallet(s) instead. I ship pallets from coastal NC and pay about $0.21/22 per pound. It does also depend on how tightly you pack the boxes. 73, MikeQuote:
Originally Posted by sledge
One thing I've been meaning to ask, sorry for the hijack, but the 21/22 cents a lb has to be before adding Gaylord and pallet weight... I'm coming out the same on finished goods results is the same comparably between Fed Ex Ground and LTL.
I only get $.15 a pound for low grade around me and shipping cost a lot, I am thinking of holding on to them and eventually have enough to make and ship a pallet full as well. With other high value boards.
Dam! At those prices, i'd consider taking apart all my PSUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
Pallet, boxes, packing material are all part of the weight when determining shipping costs. But only the material you get paid for is figured in the shipping cost per pound.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamTheGreatest
I just went back and looked at one of my shipments. I shipped 1437 lbs of material(does not include the weight of the pallet, boxes etc) and the cost of shipping was $158.29 so roughly $0.11 per pound. Yes that was a single pallet.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE FOLLOWING: This was 2016 and from my location to my buyer arranged by my buyer. Your results depend on you.
73, Mike
Yeah.. 69 lb boxes.. my wife would nut me for trying to save up gaylords. Churn and burn baby!Quote:
Originally Posted by miked
It is the only reason I do! If I couldn't get paid at that rate it would be "Wire snip" and they would go into the shread steel pile.Quote:
Originally Posted by mthomasdev
I know most folks are in this situation. I luckily have an R2 facility locally that I have been able to build a nice relationship with. I know others are not as lucky.
I get around 7 cents a pound on low grade boards when I take them to another yard down the street from the one I work at on my way to work. Its not the best price but I don't really have the space to be saving up a pallet full of them. If I tried shipping them I think I would be loosing money if I had to pay for shipping. I try to take in a bunch of cans and other nasty/weird stuff that we don't really deal well with at my yard when I do get rid of them. that way Im not bothering them all the time with a barrel worth $4 in low grade boards.
You should start buying.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
You must have missed that post about me losing my nuts if I were to even store a gaylord of ANYTHING e-waste in my garage from that beautiful wife of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by mthomasdev
;)
Where do you get a Gaylord from and are they called something different? I even asked for the big box that are pallet size and nobody knew what I was talking about when I was calling around.
Now I remember. Too bad you couldn't work out a commission with yard and have gaylords shipped there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
Gorven is THE man to help you on good, cheap shipping.
I wouldn't know any other description than how you described it to them. If they didn't understand that.. I'd say keep asking folks the way you did. Someone will understand. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CopperheadDave
All i do is put some to fill the extra space when i make a shipment.
office depot and others have them online
I recall U LINE having a good price. And in having dealt with them in the past, they aren't even picky about freight locations. As long as they can put the pallet on the ground at the correct address, it will fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
Still, they are not cheap. It's probably best to just buy a roll of shrink wrap and pile boxes on a pallet. That roll will be less than $10, in some cases, and it will last you about a year if you are prudent and only have a few shipments. We have a steady supply of gaylords from the regional solid waste cooperative but I imagine that's not an option for a lot of people.
You might also ask for Flexbins, cubic-yard boxes, cowboys/cowgirls, and pony boxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
Bulk liquid containers are nice, too, but it's hard to know if they were used for food grade material. Plus, they are not cheap so places that have them usually have a system to reclaim them. But it doesn't hurt to ask.
You could also look into Supersacks. If you have a grain dealer, farm, or brewery in your area, check to see if they have these large, white, cubic-yard volume polypropylene sacks you can have to take. In our area, they see a lot of use but no one really knows what to do with them when they are empty. They fit on pallets when full and sometimes have sidewalls, which is nice. They also have high-weight-rated loops on the corners so that you can lift them with forks from the top, if they come off the pallet by accident. Make sure they are turned inside-out and shaken clean or you will be paying to ship a lot of dust and stale grains. They aren't as nice and tight as gaylords but they are standard shipping equipment and freight services don't usually balk at them (to my knowledge, anyway).
"Large boxes" that can handle a lot of wight are not cheap ( $65+ ). Good luck getting them for free. [LINK]Quote:
Originally Posted by CopperheadDave
Some food stores get rid of them, some what smaller than a Gaylord but they would hold Pumpkins, Watermelons and such and no top lid...
This is where I get all mine and for free! Some places re-use them but at many they just go in the cardboard baler so am saving them work and myself a few bucks. And if you arrange right they'll often save the lid for youQuote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
I got a few friends at a couple walmarts in town. I believe this is the answer to my problem. Thank you sir
Sometimes the Gaylord is also called a pallet box. That is how they call them at the place where I buy them.