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Just a random thought but how many are ya'll using diesel trucks an making you own bio fuels?
We are going to be changing out all of our trucks to diesel an make bio fuels for our trucks to save on fuel cost.
Dont know about there but diesel is at $4.00 and gas is at $3.87 (got some gas yesterday)
an on a side note what is fuel costing you where your at (state an city)
Regular just started dropping here over the last few days. We are down to about 3.87. Deisel has been around 4.15 here in middle Florida.
I use a diesel fuel cost here are $3.99 but i get 20 mpg and as long as i am making money i could care less about fuel cost.
Why dont you use bio diesel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Focker
My thoughts exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Focker
Up here in northern Ind. there is a Farm Bureau station called Countrymark and they sell biodiesel cheaper than anyone around, it comes from our "large" soybean processing plant in our county. They just don't advertise so look around for those stations. Our station is open 24 hr self serve and take credit/debit cards right at the pump. Their price runs .10 .15 cheaper
Dont know where to get it and dont want to have to mess with converting to run it.
96 Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel 3500 one ton dual rear wheel 4 wheel drive 5 speed 4.10 gears (wish it was 3.55's) 12-16 mpg pulling the trailer (22' bumper pull), current pump diesel is $4.19 a gallon. I run a lot of homemade fuel.......
do you just filter the oil an mix it with diesel or you turn it into the bio diesel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigblue12v
filter process.... no chemicals needed for a mechanical injection pump......
There was an episode on "Dirty Jobs" about this. The guy used some chemicals in the process, but don't remember what or why. All said and done though, he was paying like .50c a gallon to make it.
I have a 2000 dodge 2500 love it
Petrols US$1.62 a Litre here, I think Diesol is US$1.20 a Litre.
I dunno what that converts to in Gallons, since you can squeeze 55 of them into our 44 gallon (120Litres) drum
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$4.44 a Gallon Diesol & $6.14 Petrol
Thanks zito
3.79 liters per U.S. gallon. I'd do the conversion, but the phone I'd be using to calculate it is the phone I'm posting with.Quote:
Originally Posted by eesakiwi
24 valve Cummins in my truck, not the best motor for bio 12 valves are better, different injection system. Ill never buy another gas car/truck again, all my guy run 2nd gen dodge diesels,
gas 3.23 diesel 4.00 ready for this i recycle alot of the gas from junk cars for it"s way cheaper won"t go back to diesels for a while
Diesels have a ton of power, thanks to the turbo n/a diesels are helpless. I run gassers and reclaim lots of gas from junk cars. Maintainence is way too expensive for my taste. And as for these claims of 20 mpg I seriously doubt it. Find me a motor that gets 20 mpg while towing a 22 foot gooseneck loaded with 3 ton, it don't exist. I hear this 20 mpg crap from all you cummins guys, I'd like to see hardcore proof of this. How bout this drain out all the diesel and put in 1 gal then see if you make the 20 mile mark.
My truck is horible on the hiway only a 4 speed trany but I do get just over 750km tank towing 2ton, we run compressers and winches almost everyday so our trucks are running for just to keep the batteries charged up. Diesiel makes sense for the type of work we do, if your just crusin around on garbage day and towing cars and dont need loy of tourq..gas motors are cummins are million mile motors, our crew is half way
my truck 350,000km
Biz partner 467,000km
Skid steer guy has 680,000km
we work our trucks ....to each there own I guess
....damm you..you made me sign on..lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by taterjuice
Ok there is alot of bad info on diesels but let me point out good and bad, facts and nothing more.
a STOCK Cummings diesel will get 16mpg to 18mpg either empty or loaded will be close to the same.
A NON stock cummings can get well above 20mpg, Mods needed, 5inch no muf or cats (delete pipe) has to be the 5.9 not the newer crap (can do it with the newer ones but takes ALOT more work/mods) water-methanol injection on the air intake as this will help to supper cool the air and the water part of it will turn to steam taking less fuel to have more "bang" and a good programmer that you can tune the truck in (not hard) and you HAVE to put gag's on. The mods here will give you around 23mpg and you will have low EGT's (high EGT will kill a diesel motor fast as hell) if you want to scrap another 1 to 2mpg add another turbo as this will also give you MORE air = power. Having two turbos will drop your EGT even more.
if you want to make a race motor and "blue print" the motor you can add bigger valve springs to make it close tighter and change out the head bolts on the motor before you try to run high boots with the twin turbo's or you will blow the top of your motor off and some other small odds and ends like that.
A well built diesel motor will run for a long time. Also the older 12 valve cummings will run on pure veg oil or motor oil with little to no mods to the truck the 24 valve ones need a few small mods to run that type of fuel.
Bad part about diesel cummings take 12 quarts of oil but this can be burned as fuel (only need to change it every 5k miles tho) higher diesel price but the truck wont let you down when your working...upfront cost on the truck...costs of upgrades but...low repair bills...things DONT brake often.
Best thing about a diesel....park it for 10years...change the batteries find the key and she will start right up....gas motor...good luck as its going to take some work and poking around.
Anyway..I will poke around alittle bit but I have been very busy and about to roll something else out that could very well be 10times bigger than Easy Recycle I have a few meeting to be in this month to get the ground work done.
Hello all the old regs I know.
good to see you easy,
tater, my 02 being the maroon truck in my pics gets 16.5 mpg pulling a trailer with at least half that time being loaded. its an automatic 24v 2 wheel drive 3/4 ton
my white truck, will get 20 to 22 empty, when the girls raced motocross with a 2000+lb slide in camper 16ft trailer and 4 fourwheelers on the trailer it would get over 14. its a five speed 12v 2wheel drive 3/4 ton
my silver truck is a whole different story but Im losing fuel somewhere and I have to prime the filter every morning, its gets 11 to 12 mpg having to prime the filter every day, its a 12v 5speed 4x4 1 ton
the new one ton that's black and blue we havnt ran it enough yet to know, but it does have a brand new turbo and cold air intake and it will really fly,
with my experience 20mpg loaded would be tough, I like you get over 50 gallons a week in gas, I eyeball that 2500 v10 my buddy pawns a couple times a year saying is that guy gonna lose that truck, he just laughs at me and says probably not
Easy your half right, the older 12 valve cummins takes 2.5 (10 quarts). 16-18 sounds doable but I have a hard time believing 20+ mpg in any full size pickup. Doing all the mods on diesels are way more expensive, I can buy lots of gas and spark plugs for that. Not trying to sound like a hater, Corry and easy, but for me it don't make sense.
And the cummins take a 51607 (wix) oil filter. I've changed a bunch of oil in cummins and can't help but remember that.
tater, im agreeing with you on the mpg, ive only got one that will do it and that's unloadedQuote:
Originally Posted by taterjuice
My buddies new long horn 6.7L, gets 20 towing his camper, 5"straight pipe, egr delete, big air box, and a bully dog tuner, the diesel you buy has a huge part of it, I know up here in Canada no one advertises what grade the fuel is, the diesel from pioneer at 1.19L doesn't last compaird the fuel from petro cananada or shell, ill Glady pay an extra 10 cents a L for an extra 40/50km, I'm bad for only putting 20 to 40 bucks worth at a time, id do a test this week but my speedo senser in the transfer case is ****ed, my odometer hasn't worked for about 4000km
18 to 22 is typical, my truck gets better millage in town or on the highway towing then my 2001 Mazda tribute 4cyl, i'm running a little bigger tire but doesn't seem to effect it much i don't notice a difference, 265s on 16s. and there is a small lift in it for plowing snow. my friends truck gets 16 with a 10ft V plow on the front, on the highway. my rebuilt tranny helps to.
I have a bone stock 94 cummins gets 19-21 on highway empty gets 14-15 start highway my truck will go over 600 miles on one tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by taterjuice
Doing mods on a 12 valve there are tons of things to do for free that will give you good power.
Also i have been thinking about a V10 for the gas out of junks.How do you all get the gas out and how to you filter it?