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The EPA is cracking down hard on CRT disposal.
The results are more illegal dumping sites are being created due to the sky-high cost of "properly disposing" of the glass.
(skip to 5:20 & 11:16 & 15:16 in the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuucbmT-vKk
That is insane! I hope the EPA goes after the leaseholder of that property.
Number one, I can't believe they left all the cords!!
Number two, that place would be so nice to film some Walking Dead episodes!!
I doubt the leaseholder even knows that is there. But I'd bet you a month's pay there's a company within 50 miles of this place who dumped all that there and from the video...based on the refuse and wetness of carboard and the forklift tracks...it's a still active dump site for sure.
I bet there's an interesting story there. Judging by the sheetrock in the receptionist area of the building there was an attempt made at a business startup of some kind. Looks like they ran out of money because the new sheetrock didn't make it to the point where it got painted.
All the CRT's out back in the warehouse could have been related to that somehow.
It would be pretty hard to handle that many CRT's & TVs without leaving any fingerprints. That might be a starting point.
Maybe set up a couple of game cameras and check on them every so often to see if they turn up anything ?
It's not getting worse, it's just people are talking about it now.
Nothing irks me like seeing a tube left on the curb, or where ever an it's all smashed up.
Illegal dumping will see us eventually regulated an needing permits to do anything, all cause some jerkwad is to lazy to dispose of things properly.
Maybe there is a story behind it...till then I'll stick with the facts known. Someone left behind a bunch of tubes, an till more info comes out, I reserve the right to assume they were just to lazy to put up the sheetrock, an they were illegally dumping tubes there or doing it under the radar. Legit companies tend to organize things better. It also looks like they trashed the place, an didn't care about the building at all. Shots in the video that show a unsafe work environment. An if it was a failed business I still have no sympathy judging by the way they kept things. Not a big surprise they failed if that's how they organize things.
Chaos may work in a home shop or one man shop, but general fails when it comes to a big building/warehouse.
My thoughts, keep'm or get a refund for the 2 pennies. ;)
Sirscrapalot - People amaze and amuse me.
Great thing about the internet...so many different trains of thought. Ha ha!
I'm with Scrappah, this has all the sign's of a failed business attempt, at some type of CRT recycling and obviously going about it all wrong! Those forklift tracks do appear to be "fresh", hard to say as this property has years of neglect and not from just the most recent tenants. I do commercial property management, managing shopping centers, warehouses, light industrial and business parks. A property that is well managed, is not "normally" allowed to fall into this kind accumulated neglect. There's a saying in real estate, "Location, location, location." this property, more than likely has run it's course and is in a location that is no longer a thriving vibrant community. Originally this was probably a "Spec" built building for a particular successfully ran company, that for many a reasons, no longer occupies this space. Then property owners begin the process of leasing to other suitable alternative "lease holders" to occupy a building that may or may not work out. A lot of times a building like this one, fairly large and with a layout that just does not work for anyone else, simply because it was built for one need only. I would guess there has been several "lease holders" since the original business occupied this building. More than one person knows those responsible for this property damage, caused by a large amount of discarded environmental waste (CRT's). A commercial property is leased, almost always with a large security deposit that helps to cover these problems that are certain to occur. There will also be a commercial insurance policy that will cover some of these damages if property owners are still solvent. A worse case scenario, may have occurred with this property, in that property owners are no longer financially able to posses the property. In that case, the local governments (city, county and state) will need to take over as the "responsible party", with seizure and sale of property hopefully covering most of cleanup cost.
The market for CRT recycling has become very limited with less responsible recycling companies interested in properly handling CRT's. There is going to be more problems than solutions before the "tube" fades away into just a "memory". There is no "one right solution" and everyone is going to be challenged to do the "right thing"! I have had to deal with dumped TV's and monitors, these were all illegally dumped on a commercial property, mostly in or nears a trash dumpster. We process them by opening the case, retaining the screws, removing all wire, copper and PCB.s. We then put the case back together with the screws, so as to "properly protect" the CRT as it is transported to a state certified approved recycler. The cost of properly recycling is not covered by money received, by our efforts, but it does help "offset" our cost to be responsible property managers. I wish illegal dumping did not happen, but it does and CRT's are not the only problem or greatest problem. The good news is we see less and less CRT's now then we did five years ago. Now the bad news, we are seeing more flat screen displays, good thing they weigh less!
watch the video again guys. early on he shows the accumulation of dust and debris on the plastic...and you can see it on some of the crts as well. but then you see forklift tracks that go right through a few muddy puddles and there is a few pallets and boxes under an open part of the roof that are dry as a bone themselves. someone dumped at that sight between that video and the last rain fall. and their a recycler too....which is horribly shameful.
I do agree game cameras could answer all kinds of questions...but point them at the entrances...not the building.
Claims to be in Tennessee..........If nearby I can take a look
So do you think people are paying to put these here? Or it is just a dumping ground for free? I feel its a pay to dump and if so people will be caught if there is any paper trail at all. When and if the government collects CRT's the warehouse will be bigger, or they will store underground in Nevada but they will do nothing to get rid of them. Could drop them on ISIS I guess...
look at 4:18 on the video it says TENCON Dept 101 on the wall
also saw dura oil on red things 10:50 could this be the place...
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34...667a3a10?hl=en
It could be, but it doesn't seem to match with the exterior shots taken in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
I found a reference to TENCON in the court records.
PLASTI-LINE MFG. v. Combined Communications Corp., 741 F. Supp. 141 (E.D. Tenn. 1989) :: Justia
Looks like Tencon manufactured plastic outdoor signs and were bought out by one of their main competitors back in the 80's.
If you look at the video : There's another abandoned building right nearby with an old delivery truck parked next to it 20:03. The best exterior shots were taken from inside the administrative section 9:16, inside the reception area looking out 14:00, and the final drive around at the end of the video.
Went to youtube and located the video. Next i looked through all of the comments underneath. They seem to be saying that it's located in Centerville TN ?
Ummmm ..... find out who owns the building. (That's all i'm gonna say at this point.)Quote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
Nearly 4 hours to Centerville from here
I drove past Centerville twice last week on my way to Waverly and Only Tennessee to work some service tickets.
I'm sure I'll be going back in that direction in the next few weeks.
Not sure how I would go about finding the building and what I would do if I did.
wire cutters and a large tote??Quote:
Originally Posted by jimicrk
It's not much to go on but i chased the corporate ownership of Tencon through to the ImagePoint corporation. This gives a rundown on the company history.
ImagePoint - Signs-Facility Branding - Our History
Quote:
Plasti-Line purchased Tencon in Centerville, TN. This added the McDonald's program, which is still one of our largest accounts today. While Tencon was consolidated in Knoxville in 1988, many of the Tencon employees still work for Plasti-Line today.
If you stopped in at the town grocery store and asked one of the old timers where the Tencon plant used to be they might be able to point you in the right direction.
CRT CSI SMF we will find them!
It gets even better !:)
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I know this building it was first a plastic sign manufacturer, , mobile home mfg, recycle company, mighty equipment, then a recycle co. On and on...supposedly Perry march was the legal rep for mighty equipment and some thought he buried his wife in a barrel behind the place...funny the things you hear i in a small town.
Even if I knew where the building was I don't think I would go inside without a hazmat suit plus you have to consider the local law enforcement.
< ------ laughing at myself. Got way too much time on my hands. ( Ought to mind my own d*mn business. )
** Bear in mind ... this may not be what it appears.**
Both Tenco & Mighty Equipment had 400 rivers road Centerville tn listed as their address. You would be wise to avoid the place as it's listed as a hot site for toxic waste.
The property is up for sale or lease. The photos seem to match the building.
400 Rivers Road, Centerville, TN, 37033 - Manufacturing Property For Lease on LoopNet.com
Found an electronics recycler using that business address as well. It's listed near the bottom of their webpage.
Scott Recycling - Knoxville TN, Pulaski VA, Chilicothe OH, Centerville TN
Monitor Recycling
Scott Recycling works to keep useful materials from unused monitors out of landfills and in manufacturing plants.
Like computers, monitors are composed of plastics, glass, metal and components that can be reused for new products. We break these devices down into their bare components to be repurposed and reused. Along with keeping these machines out of landfills, recycling monitors also reduces the energy and materials needed to create new components by offering a viable alternative for many parts or materials.
Scott recycling accepts all types of computer monitors. However, it should be noted that an additional fee may be required to dispose of the large CRT monitors. This fee is to negate the expense incurred with disposing of the toxic lead contained in these machines. However, all toxic materials are contained and disposed of in a safe and effective manner.
Scott Recycling will keep your monitors out of the landfills and place their materials in the hands of manufactureres. Contact us today to dispose of any unused monitors!
Television Recycling
Just like computer monitors, televisions contain many valuable materials that can be reused in new products. So, please do not throw your old television in the trash. Scott Recycling is an expert in television recycling and disposal. As advances in television technology force consumers to make decisions about old television sets, Scott Recycling is ready to safely dispose of your old and outdated television sets.
Please Note: an additional fee may be required to dispose of the CRT(Tube) TV's. This fee is to negate the expense incurred with disposing of toxic materials contained within TV sets.
I wonder if Scott Recycling has that video of one of their sites, esp. since their quoted as saying "Scott Recycling follows all responsible recycling practices and complies with all legal requirements under the rules and regulations of the EPA, OSHA and all other Federal, state and local agencies". (right off their website.)
"Scott Recycling is an expert in television recycling and disposal. As advances in television technology force consumers to make decisions about old television sets, Scott Recycling is ready to safely dispose of your old and outdated television sets".
Fax: (865) 540-4332
Email: info@scottrecycling.com
Website: scottrecycling.com
In case anyone wants to contact them to clear thing up a bit.
ScottRecycling.com
Redirecting to Ecyclers USA No Longer Exists.
Redirecting to Ecyclers USA - Knoxville TN (0)
I did send a email to Email: info@scottrecycling.com we will see if they respond
and one to info@ecyclersusa.com ecyclres usa.
Scott recycling Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scott...03125586422293
From what I know Scott's has left Knoxville and I have also heard many rumors about their indiscretion with CRT's tubes
It might be best to document Scott's business locations.
Knoxville, TN
5049 S. National Dr.
Knoxville, TN 37914
Centerville, TN
400 Rivers Rd.
Centerville, TN 37033
Charlotte, NC
800 Engleside St.
Monroe, NC 28110
Pulaski, VA
301 N. Madison
Pulaski, VA 24301
Chillicothe, OH
320 East Second St
Chillicothe, OH 45601
Richmond, VA
1945 A Puddledock Rd
Petersburg, VA 23803
This is not new news if you live in this area.........I did not know however the Centerville location was theirs.......There are several dumps sites like this one that I know of here in town
At first glance .... there seems to be a difference between what they're saying and what they're doing.
If you can put a name with each *ahem* "storage site" that goes a long way toward making people responsible for any messes they've created. Scott is working interstate so that could become a federal beef if he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing.
Well lets all pitch in and open up one of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vao9aHbqjHk we can follow that recycling company around and make our living while cleaning up the planet.
It would seem with this being such a problem that there would be some opportunities for us in the recycling community. I've really stopped taking CRTs unless I'm getting mostly other (good) stuff included. Otherwise, I'm asking for $10 per unit (it costs me $1.00 at local center to dump the remains). So far, no takers which is fine by me. I hate dumping the ones I do get, and I suspect the day is rapidly approaching where they will start refusing them altogether.
The last time I checked in with anyone up the line on these, it required dealing in semi truckloads. I wonder if it would be possible to charge for disposal and have a trailer set up somewhere more or less central to scrappers / recyclers in a given area and ship that way. Regardless, this is a major problem.
I found someone to recycle those Tvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOfFF7JYvNA :&
So he is all kinds of worried about breathing in the lead dust but thinks nothing about walking into his living room wearing the clothes that are covered with it. Sounds like to me that he has already consumed a fair amount of lead. I wonder if he considers the people who have to dump that can? Guess not, but then, he had $42...
I like the dudes space car
Unfortunately all that lead dust may make takeoff a little tough :))
ok he has taken in a lot of lead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KxtT2sJveU&t=28s also that car is solar. I am sure glad I found this sight in the beginning wish I would have found it before the refining videos. But hey I can always clean my concrete.