I Feel Burnt

I was browsing a blog I follow and came across this article. Now, my impression has always been that electronics exported from here in the states went to a small village in China where the inhabitants used harsh chemicals to burn off electronics for the cartels. It's rather the reverse according to the article and I once again feel burned by the media. CBS who's been the leader in news was the one that first reported that this village was our dumping ground for electronics which is what got me into scrapping in the first place - now to read about it being the opposite, I feel I've been severely let down. Anyone else agree or am I the only one?

Article: Anatomy of a Myth: the World’s Biggest E-Waste Dump Isn’t. | Shanghai Scrap

Welcome to reality. Many media outlets don't report the truth, but rather report what the politicians and big business want you to hear.

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Originally Posted by mthomasdev

Welcome to reality. Many media outlets don't report the truth, but rather report what the politicians and big business want you to hear.

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Anyone have a hard hat? I'm going to need one.

yes, it is all about media manipulation by a small number of companies. ANYTHING sensational is "news"....and it can't be sensational with out a bit of puffery (stretching of the truth)....Brina Williams anyone??

many of these places are not what they seem...3rd world countries (and admittedly, I have never been to a 3rd world...but have seen a number of pretty poor ones) normal living is so FAR out of most of our experience, it can SEEM to be these hyper inflated, BS stories.

We send I can't tell you how many tons of clothes (stuff no one will wear here) over there for large profits....take a look at any of the "clothes drop off" companies...anything they cannot resell here, gets shipped out over there.

Gotta love the media bullSH%^ING you.

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Originally Posted by logansryche

Anyone have a hard hat? I'm going to need one.

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Not meant to bash you!

Many politicians and big businesses purposely report inaccurate or incomplete information for the gain of a few.

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Originally Posted by mthomasdev

Not meant to bash you!

Many politicians and big businesses purposely report inaccurate or incomplete information for the gain of a few.

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Oh I know, still in a bit of sticker-shock because this one article has changed my perception of exporting electronics to places like China.

Welcome to the real world. 6 corporations own t he media. Your next wake up call may be that politicians will some times lie.

Oh I know politicians lie - it's how they get what they want(opens up another can I'd rather not get into). Wifes brother lives with us and he's a conspiracist.

I worked with a clothing recycler for a couple of years. A lot of his clothing exports are to India and Africa. It's not all poor rags that go over there. Heck, half my wardrobe came from his recycling center. You'd be amazed what people will throw out....

I wasen't bashing you, but remember what the definition of a conspiracy is. truth is not a conspiracy theory.

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Originally Posted by matador

I worked with a clothing recycler for a couple of years. A lot of his clothing exports are to India and Africa. It's not all poor rags that go over there. Heck, half my wardrobe came from his recycling center. You'd be amazed what people will throw out....

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I am no longer amazed by what people will just throw away; I remain dumbfounded by people's willingness to pi$$ away their hard earned money on retail pricing and fast food though.

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Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum

I am no longer amazed by what people will just throw away; I remain dumbfounded by people's willingness to pi$$ away their hard earned money on retail pricing and fast food though.

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They will be pissing away more money pretty soon if they live in new york. Fast food workers are getting their minimum wage raised to $15. NYC over a 2 year period and I believe 4 years for the rest of the state. What do you think a whopper will cost now?

they will just raise the prices around the world by .05 and let the rest of the world cover the cost of New world oop-s i mean New york and throw in an extra Penney or two for Ronald. when corporations run the world,that is how
technocracy works.

I had Taco Bell today for lunch for the first time in a long while, maybe 2nd time in 2-3 years. Wasn't impressed. For fast-food, I think Taco John's is much better. Still, I try not to make it a habit...

I don't eat out much, but for fast food, Taco Johns is far and away my favorite. Since they're based in Cheyenne, they have restaurants all over the state. I seriously feel sick after McDonalds- Hardees makes a better burger, but there aren't too many, and to put it nicely, Hobo would approve of their commercials! :D

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I much prefer the real thing, though. I think I can make a better taco or burger than the fast food places do.... for less money.

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Originally Posted by EcoSafe

they will just raise the prices around the world by .05 and let the rest of the world cover the cost of New world oop-s i mean New york and throw in an extra Penney or two for Ronald. when corporations run the world,that is how
technocracy works.

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Probably won't go down that way as most stores are owned by individual franchisees and these owners are responsible for costs.

It'll never work that way. They'll raise the minimum wage in a lot more places. $15 an hour to flip burgers out here would be pure insanity! Truck drivers make less than that out here. Remember, it's not what you make, you need to factor in cost of living.

Now, to avoid being political, I give you:
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I don't know about Hobo, but I now have the strange desire to make hamburgers for dinner. Well, I guess the marketing sort of worked!

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good point. the bottom line is we are going to pay for it one way or another.

That's what I think will happen.

The two McDonalds in our area are owned by the same company, but as far as I know, they don't own any others. I doubt they care what happens in New York, but if wages rise, they'll raise prices. Everntually, everything will cost more.

You can't tip the scales for very long. The other side will catch up....

Now, if you'll excuse me, Hobo Finds has made me very..... hungry?

Now that we're "off" the distractions...

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Originally Posted by matador

I worked with a clothing recycler for a couple of years. A lot of his clothing exports are to India and Africa. It's not all poor rags that go over there. Heck, half my wardrobe came from his recycling center. You'd be amazed what people will throw out....

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I know - back when I had my drop box idea I had talked with alot of business' who have them and between their responses and what I found online, 95% of what's donated to them goes back to the business who hosts them. I had a feeling this was the case from the get go anyhow so that didn't surprise or shock me. The again near me is the Salvation Army Thrift Store, Thrifty Shopper, and Goodwill and all three move items that don't sell between each other which didn't surprise me either since I saw a Salvation Army truck at the Thrifty Shopper unloading items.

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Originally Posted by EcoSafe

I wasen't bashing you, but remember what the definition of a conspiracy is. truth is not a conspiracy theory.

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I know - between my uncle and brother-in-law, their both constantly reminding me of things about the government and how no party is correct and how each party leader has some kind of hidden agenda behind their words. I did share the article with my brother-in-law and he said it didn't surprise him.


Minimum wage will always be in the toilet unless the cost of living goes down to balance wages, but minimum wage will always go up to give politicians something to talk about. I keep telling everyone I end up having this conversation with that the US needs to be more like Australia because at least those folks have their stuff together.
Oh hey look an obvious distraction...

Back from dinner!

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Good luck getting hobo off distractions. We have to let him out of the cooler once in a while or he'll chew through his collar.

its great that any topic can be brought back to girls in bikinis lmao :)

From pollution in China to burgers and boobs now that is freedom of speech.

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Originally Posted by Jonniebrass

From pollution in China to burgers and boobs now that is freedom of speech.

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I thought it was just...

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There's no burgers in this one...

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and that's what i love about this forum, no matter how crappy the news is, there's always something to put a smile on faces

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