Miners Moss

There is about 5 acres of mossy boulders laying on an inside bend full of flour gold waiting to be harvested.

Back when no one cared the weekend prospector would rip off the moss sweep the rock clean and burn the moss, now it is illegal to remove the moss. I'm heading back to the river today with a Milwaukee vac and 8 battery's.

There could be 100G's or more in that moss just begging to be harvested.

Just another day in the life of a scrapper.

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this sounds shady so be careful not to get in trouble also if so this post may get you in trouble as well I kind of get the idea of what your doing but that much gold left untouched is there for a reason and I would make sure what your doing is legal as well

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Originally Posted by travistemple202020

this sounds shady so be careful not to get in trouble also if so this post may get you in trouble as well I kind of get the idea of what your doing but that much gold left untouched is there for a reason and I would make sure what your doing is legal as well

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Not sure where your coming from bro, I do not promote illegal activity - just using what god gave us - a brain.

There's been alot of shady things going around lately so it's understandable why one would question another's activities. Good luck harvesting and post pics afterwards.

I get the idea but do you have permission and a license to do this because with all that gold just lying around I am sure it still is for a specific reason. I mean if its not legal to remove it is it ok to do this as well I mean I don't really know that's why I am questioning it because with gold even prices now people are scrambling for ways to get even the smallest amount of gold. I don't even know if your ideas of sucking it up will work even but if everythings good on your end I wish you awesome luck and a good time at a beautiful spot

Travis,

I think Alloy is saying he will vacuum the moss...in other words, not destroy anything, just vacuum the sand and hopefully, gold, out of the moss.--using his head to get the gold without harming anything!!

In the bad old days they would wreck the moss to get at the sand. The moss acts like a gold mining riffle when under water, making the water in the moss move slower than the rest of the river, allowing the fine gold to settle out among the moss.

The same thing happens when water runs over cracks in the bedrock...sometimes they are just right and a lot of gold can be found in the cracks.

Jon.

Awesome idea.. Not removing the moss and leaving it as nature and the law demands.. but sucking the gold out. Stellar! Let us know how it pans out (Ba dum ching)

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Also the sand laying in-between the large boulders contains flour gold, what I learned from refining is that it can take upwards of 12 hours for the precipitated gold to settle out. I'm thinking that a guy could fill a plastic 20 litre pail half full then top off with water - stir the heck out of it then decant the water passing it through a filter to catch the flour.

I got out to the river this morning to find Dons Milwaukee would not work, checked all the battery's all were fully charged, decided to buy my own. Headed down to the cost bought a brand new vacuum with a pair of battery's with chargers. Then over to Princess Auto ( HF ) your wide of 49 to get some magnets for another project, then over to OCL in Surrey for 6 bags of refractory for the new furnace I'm going to build to smelt my gold in.

Back in Chilliwhack decided to come in the back way when I spot this air compressor made a quick u-turn into the guys driveway. The compressor sits on a 100 gallon tank, 10 hp single phase - mine for $220.00. Don is going to pick it up with his truck tomorrow. And I'm heading back to the river with my new Milwaukee Vac.

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I'm anctious to see what you get from this spot you found(being an ex desert panner)

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Hobo you hit the nail directly on the head, for this very reason I have decided to forego Manson Creek.

Don't know if you have perused the many postings of Gus (Gustavus) but he built all kinds of stuff like this. Very wise man on many different
subjects. Here's a few examples. Unfortunately most of the pictures have disappeared.

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Using the Vacuum on the moss not as easy as it first looked, the fine powder is like cement.

I did manage to recover about 20 lbs over the past two days.

Also modified my black sand magnetite magnet, the magnet had 6 small round ones inside not very good so I bought the large round magnet that fits a regular broom handle then cut the threaded part off drilled and tapped a hole to screw onto the threaded rod where the plate with the 6 small magnets was attached.

wow congrats the aparatus works! How much gold did you recover from that?

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wow congrats the aparatus works! How much gold did you recover from that?

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Not sure if there is any gold at least none I can see, I'm sending out a sample for an assay.

Indeed wet sand does not move well, 300 mph leaf blower has a hard time. I had a feeling you would say something to the effect. seeing as moss is a collector and holder of moisture.
can you pour water on the moss and collect from the bottom of the rock with the vacuum after an hour or two dry time?
how recently has it rained? perhaps a week of dry weather to give that sand some time to dry might increase the payout.
very cool Idea, keep us posted.

I went to the river this morning, the river is rising about a foot an hour, but my guardian angles are watching over me. I mentioned to a friend in Arkansas that I wanted to check out the settling pond at the Ready Mix plant, the owner is also a friend of mine gave me the go ahead.

Here's the leach from the ready mix mud, then below this a picture of the mud minus the silt which contains flour gold.

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This afternoon Don told me there was a trommel and a screening deck on the property when he bought it, naturally I had to have a look this is what I found.

The deck is laying upside down, currently has a 1/4' mesh screen installed and we have a bob cat so it looks that I may become a miner after all.

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Congrats on your finds.

Life just gets better, the gold is in the bag.

If you can picture a water fall of fine gold particles cascading down the face of that cliff face in the picture below. The gold I found in the ready mix wash plant is coming from this pit, I made a deal with the owner this morning that suits all party's.

Sweet deal I get the use of the wash plant, loaders in the deal, gravel trucks are by the hour.


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Not every cloud has a silver lining, no gold what we have is pt and pd.

The good news is that we'll have enough material that will get JM's interest.

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Also the sand laying in-between the large boulders contains flour gold, what I learned from refining is that it can take upwards of 12 hours for the precipitated gold to settle out. I'm thinking that a guy could fill a plastic 20 litre pail half full then top off with water - stir the heck out of it then decant the water passing it through a filter to catch the flour.

I got out to the river this morning to find Dons Milwaukee would not work, checked all the battery's all were fully charged, decided to buy my own. Headed down to the cost bought a brand new vacuum with a pair of battery's with chargers. Also the sand laying in-between the large boulders contains flour gold, what I learned from refining is that it can take upwards of 12 hours for the precipitated gold to settle out. I'm thinking that a guy could fill a plastic 20 litre pail half full then top off with water - stir the heck out of it then decant the water passing it through a filter to catch the flour.

I got out to the river this morning to find Dons Milwaukee would not work, checked all the battery's all were fully charged, decided to buy my own. Headed down to the cost bought a brand new vacuum with a pair of battery's with chargers. Then over to Princess Auto ( HF ) your wide of 49 to get some magnets for another project, then over to OCL in Surrey for 6 bags of refractory for the new furnace I'm going to build to smelt my gold in.

Back in Chilliwhack decided to come in the back way when I spot this air compressor made a quick u-turn into the guys driveway. The compressor sits on a 100 gallon tank, 10 hp single phase - mine for $220.00. Don is going to pick it up with his truck tomorrow. And I'm heading back to the river with my new Milwaukee Vac.

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Back in Chilliwhack decided to come in the back way when I spot this air compressor made a quick u-turn into the guys driveway. The compressor sits on a 100 gallon tank, 10 hp single phase - mine for $220.00. Don is going to pick it up with his truck tomorrow. And I'm heading back to the river with my new Milwaukee Vac.

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Good grief. Can you please decipher this for the tired addled brain? Don who? What?

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''Your wide of 49?''

????????? No clue??

he may of meant way instead of wide although somethings come to mind when you hear wide and 49 in the same sentence(like say, waist size or inseam length).

NA,

"wide of 49" is a typo....should be "your side of 49..." is talking about the 49th parallel or the border between Canada and the US. "Princess Auto" is a Canadian chain store kinda like the US Harbor Freight.

I'm assuming Don is a friend who lent Alloy a battery-powered vacuum that turned out to be kinda worn out and wouldn't suck up the sand.

By the way, we haven't heard much from you in the past month or so...we need an update on your scrapyard life!!! Whats the latest adventures?

Jon.

Alloy,

I could be wrong here, but chasing flour gold in the Fraser river, at least in my understanding, is a tough go. You are getting gold particles so small that they weigh less than the sand grains around them and therefore are hard to separate.

Centrifugation is simply increasing gravity on the sand/gold mix, but if the gold particles weigh less than the surrounding (larger) sand grains then putting everything under increased gravity doesn't change much.

It seems to me that pretty much all you can expect is separation into "black sand", which you have already established contains platinum and palladium. (and whatever gold is there, too.) Not sure of the processes necessary to extract beyond that...presumably chemical or heat. And I don't know the economics.

It is probably why not much gold mining is done on the Fraser.

There still seems to be some interest in the Barkerville area, though, where gold still can be found in larger chunks. I'm working in Quesnel for a bit and a guy on the contractor's crew here just quit for the summer to go work his placer lease up towards Barkerville. I had talked to him a bit about it and definitely the gold size is better than the Fraser.

Good luck!! and keep us posted!! As always, your posts are very interesting.

Jon.

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Good grief. Can you please decipher this for the tired addled brain? Don who? What?



''Your wide of 49?''

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Typo, should have read, your side of 49th, that is the International boundary that separates the USA from Canada. In Canada our catch all junk store is Princess Auto, I believe you folks in the US favour ( HF ) Harbour Freight.

I'm told we Canadians talk funny.

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Alloy,

I could be wrong here, but chasing flour gold in the Fraser river, at least in my understanding, is a tough go. You are getting gold particles so small that they weigh less than the sand grains around them and therefore are hard to separate.

Centrifugation is simply increasing gravity on the sand/gold mix, but if the gold particles weigh less than the surrounding (larger) sand grains then putting everything under increased gravity doesn't change much.

It seems to me that pretty much all you can expect is separation into "black sand", which you have already established contains platinum and palladium. (and whatever gold is there, too.) Not sure of the processes necessary to extract beyond that...presumably chemical or heat. And I don't know the economics.

It is probably why not much gold mining is done on the Fraser.

There still seems to be some interest in the Barkerville area, though, where gold still can be found in larger chunks. I'm working in Quesnel for a bit and a guy on the contractor's crew here just quit for the summer to go work his placer lease up towards Barkerville. I had talked to him a bit about it and definitely the gold size is better than the Fraser.

Good luck!! and keep us posted!! As always, your posts are very interesting.

Jon.

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Thanks for the heads up on centrifuges, I have the technical drawings for the HY-G from the small 7 inches baby up to the large 38 inch 40 horse power monster that consumes a whopping 330 gallons of water per minute.

Centrifuges do have their limitations.

I don't mind river sand the Jar on the left is brown mud is gold, I have yet to be filter this out and melt it into a button that I've giving to my daughter on Friday she wants to buy a mac laptop. I don't think the button will cover the full purchase price but that's why girls have dads to pick up the slack.

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A few pictures from my Penticton trip, some wild flowers for our female members and some cars for the guys.
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I see the photography hobby is going well. Nice pics.

NA is only available for brief public apperances Saw.

If you'd like to schedule one, please contact the Publicity Officer of the Cooler Pullers, an we'll see what we can do for you. NA is very busy, so we make no promises.

Have your people call our people.

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Sirscrapalot - wut?!

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I see the photography hobby is going well. Nice pics.

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Thanks Brasscatcher, as you know I gave all my photography equipment to my daughter. All I had left was my 20 year old Kodak that I use for my occasional ebay listings to take photo's with and I had lost it the other day so I replaced it with a new Samsung Galaxy 2 pocket type camera.

The Samsung camera is a rather impressive little camera, I think it takes better pictures that that Sony A900 my daughter now owns.


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My new car trailer, picked this up for $2500.00.

Below is Shawn with his rat rod. Shawn owns a 100 unit self storage unit here in town when he built the units he made living quarters and a shop for himself to play in.

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Flour gold is doable especially if you head into the flood plain where flour and fine gold get caught up in the grass and tree roots.

About two feet under thé root mass is where your going to find your gold.

Flour canbe carried over to another wetbox with riffles built in to slow the water flow and help settle the flour.

After removing the flour run the dreggs through the centrifuge.

I do not yet have an equipment permit so I have to pack bucketa home

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Thanks for the heads up on centrifuges, I have the technical drawings for the HY-G from the small 7 inches baby up to the large 38 inch 40 horse power monster that consumes a whopping 330 gallons of water per minute.

Centrifuges do have their limitations.

I don't mind river sand the Jar on the left is brown mud is gold, I have yet to be filter this out and melt it into a button that I've giving to my daughter on Friday she wants to buy a mac laptop. I don't think the button will cover the full purchase price but that's why girls have dads to pick up the slack.

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Just curious as to what you meant by filter?