To all of you official "E-Waste" experts,
What is the best way to become R2 certified? Or become an E-steward? What type of strides and hurdles did they throw at you?
If needed, please PM me to discuss.
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To all of you official "E-Waste" experts,
What is the best way to become R2 certified? Or become an E-steward? What type of strides and hurdles did they throw at you?
If needed, please PM me to discuss.
1: have a secure, indoor facility
2: already have a profitable escrap business
3: be able to afford more employees
It is an admirable goal. I believe you will need another employee to handle the documentation & reports required
It is expensive to attain and keep the certifications, and, as well as the reporting requirements, there are regular audits
You pay for everything
If one wants to run with the big boys, it would be the way to go.
Spinroch - waiting for the ensuing debate
What you post is non debatable. How you go about it simply depends on how deep your pockets are.
Rest assured, when getting "certified" the "regulators" will squeze you for as much as they possably can then.........a little more.
You say "Already have a profitable E-scrap business", but don't you need to be certified to have an escrap business?Quote:
Originally Posted by spinroch
Money, money, and more money. I am pretty sure that none of these governing bodies care about anything other than you giving them lots and lots of money. Unless you have a large client that can bring you a life changing amount of material, who is demanding certification it is not worth the trouble.
Are there requirements to recycle good parts before scrapping them? Do they look for you to invest in testing equipment to resell working parts?
It will be, but how much money will it take to become certified? 5k? 20k? and up?Quote:
Originally Posted by AuburnEwaste
I have many clients who wish to sell to me, but they demand certification, yes. So I'm investigating the potential and my resources are waiting on me to respond with a business plan.
Would it best to get a scrap metal dealers license until I can get R2 certified?
No small operator can start as an R2 business. You become a collection center, a drop off site: you start small. Find clients that do not require you to be certified. Be honest & "Green". Larger companies may require their buyers/processors to be R2 or an esteward. Align yourself with an R2 rated buyer. Do nothing to compromise the integrity or your ewaste stream. Register with the county and your DEC. Unless you have DEEP pockets, this is the path, grasshopper.
As to how much it would cost, Google is your friend.
Reselling parts: sell them as Untested, or find a college kid to help you set up a test lab.
My test equipment is salvaged from scrap, homemade, or purchased when necessary (like my high speed dedicated hard drive eraser)
I have spent the last 30 years in the electronics field, giving me a slight advantage.
(If it were easy, everyone would be doing it)
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Originally Posted by CCRcameron
I'm already licensed in my county as a "Traveling Junk Dealer". :p I wonder if that'll be enough.
I feel that would be possible to do. There are many many many technology/consulting/miltary companies nearby and I've already been dealing with people on the inside to scrap their waste. The biggest problem would be to dispose of CRT components legally. There used to be a CRT processing center nearby but they closed down due to money problems as many might.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinroch
If you are going to scrap large quantities of crts, look at Nulife glass. You would have to remove the crts, properly recycle the plastic and escrap, and ship Gaylord quantities of crts to Nulife. You would have to charge an appropriate amount for each crts, as it will cost you to scrap them & ship the crts. We are all waiting for a better solution to come along.
Either that or spend $10,000+ on a crt tube cutter.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinroch
This doesn't address the proper disposal of the leaded glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by logansryche
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Originally Posted by mthomasdev
I would only deal with CRT's if paid. I do not want to expose myself or anyone else to the hazards of them.
I won't touch CRTs... period! I've been there, and I won't go back!
Now, you'll need to be rich to become R2/E-Stewards certified. You don't have to have this to run an E-Waste business, though.
Start small, and grow as you can. There is no R2/E-Steward this side of Denver to us. It can still be profitable, though.
I'd start small if you have no/limited experience experience in recycling E-Waste. It is not for the faint of heart!
If handled properly there is no hazards. However , I too won't take them without charging to remove. Although at on point CRTs was a major part of what I do. I have somewhere to take them for free,but with low prices and probably soon to be changing regs I don't want to get stuck with a bunch and have to dispose of them for a fee. I think there is a possible profit to me made just removing them for a fee . But as long as there is scrappers that will still take them for free people will continue to post them on cl free stuff. But I think this will change soon with prices the way they are. Iam charging $20 per up to a27" and $25 anything bigger. $40 for rear projection. People will get tired of these things sitting around collecting dust and they'll pay. Some are now. Any just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCRcameron
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Originally Posted by matador
I've been running an e-scrap business for about a year now and a scrap metal business for about 4. I didn't turn a huge profit last year on E-scrap but it was ok. Only about $4000. Still working on a small property but I'm looking to get a warehouse now to store good computers and such. Stuff I can resell as is, ebay/CL. Any other good sites anyone can recommend?
Oh....and are there any certain computers that would make good testing machines for fingercards/motherboards? And whats the best way to test motherboards? Maybe theres a post around here somewhere but I haven't seen it. I'm not the most computer literate. Much more scrap literate. :recycle: I'm only 26 but I'm going at it.
This link is for R2. You can download the standard and it details the process for certifying a facility.
Certification Process
This is a dumb question, but I wonder: are there any types of designations that might not be up to R2 / e-stewards "certification" level, but maybe sound good on a card or other advertising? If so, though it doesn't cover the clients who mandate R2, maybe hit a slightly higher threshold? I'm thinking along the lines of some insurance agents and/or financial planners who have a series of "letters" behind their name reflecting various licensing and training they have obtained.
One simple example is the basic freon removal training (as I understand it, cheap & online). Then you have that basic "certification" for freon removal. What other opportunities might exist for things like that which we could add to our resumes? I wonder if any recycling organizations (nonprofits?), community colleges / tech schools, etc. might have "designations" they can provide if you take a class or something?
Maybe SMF can start awarding designations - what higher authority for us, after all? MSW might stand for Masters in Social Work for some folks....here it's a Master in Scrap Work. Doctorates, advanced certifications, etc ..... I jest (somewhat), but see where I'm headed with this?
Anyway, at the level I'm at, I'm a LONG way off from ever acquiring R2...but who knows what the future holds? I'm just thinking in the near term about low (or relatively low) cost alternatives.
Sorry a little off topic but have you seen that YouTube video where something dreamer just gets a hammer and knocks the tube off of the crt. Then tells everyone to just scrap the class?
Here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kxt...9D6926BE332E1C
I'm not saying to do this. But here is a good example of what NOT to do.
I want to see more of his spaceship in the background. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitalRecovery
I wonder if the guy still walks the earth.....one of the craziest/stupidest things I have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalRecovery
I could see if he is getting like $50 worth of metals (risk/reward). But for like $4-5 worth of metals maybe for 30+ minutes of work, mess, and hazard to your health? No thanks.
Hilarious video. My favourite part was where he was swinging at the tube with his eyes covered. Imagine the disappointment of the people who, after watching this video, try to sell the "motherboards" and "magnesium" from TVs.
Go to youtube and type in "Greg Zanis driving the Dream Car at night"
Holy Crap ... and the whole thing was made from MagnesiumQuote:
Originally Posted by jimicrk
I thought u guys would like it...
No goats were hurt in the making of his videos.
:)