Was just surfing ebay and found this
MAC Screwdriver SET OF 2 Flat Head Phillips 13" PBM2083N0 P3 PKRBM8N0 3 8" | eBay
Why are they so valuable?
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Was just surfing ebay and found this
MAC Screwdriver SET OF 2 Flat Head Phillips 13" PBM2083N0 P3 PKRBM8N0 3 8" | eBay
Why are they so valuable?
There's one born every minute!
I still use the $1.99 screwdriver. I could buy 15 for the cost of that one. Even with the orange handle, I'd still lose it!
matador: "Note to self: Sell fancy screwdrivers."
Hully crap! Seems a little, no, a lot-- high. Is Mac tools going out of buz or something and someone wants a memento?
I buy the best tools I can afford, and in the screwdriver range I like Klein tools. They are pricey but this is silly!!
Jon.
MAC = expensive professional grade.
I thought it was strangely high for used tools. Even new, I don't know that I would pay $20 for one.
I buy all my tools used and even then Craftsman when I can. I was about to say expense is in the name but others beat me to it. All my screw drivers however are all dollar store cheapies that if they break or bend or something happens to em I'm not going to cry over it. All drivers are made the same nowadays anyhow.
Tools at yard sales are great! If you get craftsman or others that are guaranteed for life even better. As for the cheep ones when they break they go into the steel pile for the scrap yard run!Quote:
Originally Posted by logansryche
I have been using the free ones I get from my runs to Harbor Freight. When one breaks, or the head gets stripped, I throw it into my shred bucket and grab one from another free package I have. Only problem is I mainly use/break the Phillips screwdrivers, so I have a bunch of flatheads piling up. Oh well, I will try to sell them at my next garage sale.
In Canada, they make all their screwdrivers out of Canadium.
Very expensive, but even the Hulk can't bend them.
Nich, Eh?
Spinroch - Laying it on thick
When I first started working for a major airline as a avionics technician, I started a Snap-on account. Later a Mac tool account as they make very good tools as well. Both companies make professional tools, custom only available by these companies, made for various industries. These vendors would pull into our hangers twice a week and techs and mechanics would line up to buy, their next "got have" tools. It become almost a status symbol, I'm in the "Big Leagues" now and my tool box is bigger than yours kinda of thing! If you are making good money as a person who needs and works with tools and your performance is constantly scrutinized. You want to be the best, have the best and look good doing it!
Do you need Snap-on or Mac Tools to do the best job? NO, unless you want to always have tool payments that is almost as much as a second home!
Another thing to think about is even though They may be 3 or 4 times as expensive than Craftsman, The Craftsman tools never fail to brake right when you need them. My Snap-on 3/8 ratchet has been through hell and back and All I've ever done is hand it to the snap-on man for a head rebuild. I paid $60 Dollars for it (3/8 Flexhead long handle) but I wouldn't trade it for 10 craftsman ratchets.
It's a screwdriver!!
You can buy a nice screwdriver for $15, or 15 for this price.
I'll still lose this one before the cheap ones would break anyways! ;)
matador: "I like Chrome Vanadium tools. They seem to be a good brand. Plus, they're popular!"
The difference between dollar screwdrivers and 15 dollar screwdrivers is subtle. I'll probably get flamed by everyone, but I like to buy the best I can afford....which sure as H*ll ISN'T Snap-on!! More like mid range stuff.
Its all about the fit of the blade into the particular hole in the screw. A well made Phillips screwdriver properly fits the screw and takes a lot less pressure to hold it in place against camming out of the hole. Same with a properly made slotted screwdriver.
When I'm working on my guns, a well made slotted screwdriver avoids the damage to the screwheads from slipping out. I try to keep a quality set around that hasn't seen much use for this kind of work. The hardening and decent tool steel used in a good screwdriver isn't obvious until you're really into a screw with the torque. The ones made out of chinese cheese are usually give up on you at the wrong time.
I've got old Craftsman no. 2 phillips screwdrivers I bought 40 years ago. They've been with me on just about all my motorcycle rebuilds and not a complaint. But they are showing wear on the flanks from doing gazillions of screws and it is about time to retire them. Decent quality, decent steel...last a long time.
Maybe its because they are made with Canadium. Although I think they reserve that stuff up here for the Robertson screwdrivers...you guys south of the 49th don't know what you're missing by not using that screwhead!
Jon.
When I don't use the 18v Makita impact I like these...Both large and small phillips and slotted plus 1/4" and 5/16" nut driver.
Husky 6-in-1 Reversible Screwdriver Set (4-Piece)-74361 - The Home Depot
Yeah my bro-in-law just told me about that the other day and I almost didn't believe him! That's almost all we ever use at my work is Robertson. Best thing about them is with some patience and a grinding tool, you can make almost anything into the square shape of a Robertson.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawmilleng
He told me when volunteers would go down to help with disasters in the US from Canada, the contractors would bring their own tools and hardware so they could use Robertson bits and all the Americans would ask "where did you get those?"
MAC tools have a lifetime warranty on them, break em and they will give you another one, craftsman has the same warranty but the quality isn't there. The screw drivers in the pic also have a spot at the handle where you can a wrench so you can gain extra torque. I had a set like that, not MAC, when I was stationed in Germany and loved that I could put a wrench on the screwdriver and break loose stubborn screws.
Ebay prices tend to be high.
Snap-On, MAC, Matco, Cornwell et al are truck brand tools (mostly sold by trucks that travel from business to business), which tend to be expensive. I buy truck brands for cheap money at yard sales, etc. I use my cheaper tools for scrapping.
I don't know anything about those particular screwdrivers, if that is the real question.
If you search Garage Journal, you may find a better answer. garagejournal.com
Tools from cleanouts are even better. Filled every tool need I've come across from this one guys house heheQuote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
*On a side note, I do feel bad for people that lose everything, BUT, when you have your children with you asking you to get their things and the only thing you care about getting is your porn, well then, don't feel so bad anymore!
Maybe you should have punched someone in the face?!?
I think for the average dude.. a normal $5 screwdriver is fine.. and in the shop mostly fine as well.
My motto has always been to buy good tools- you have to have them when you need them.
On a jobsite daily I couldn't live without my Channel Lock Brand pliers- I've beaten those things.. and they never fail me.
I have to buy stuff that I know will last. Sometimes I've got to buy "light" as is weight-- I've burned through 2 cheap Skil Belt sanders in a year... only because the $190 Porter Cable would be a blankety Blank to hold up on a wall all day trying to belt sand texture off a wall.. but it is my next purchase sadly.
Things like my Sawzall, Compound Miter, Air Impact tools. I get the good stuff.. just sort of have to.
We live in an age where "You get what you pay for" has never been more true.
When I was a kid you had 3 varieties of products
1. Cheap Crap
2. Mid Grade
3. Good Stuff.
Now you either get Good Stuff or Cheap Crap.. the world has eliminated the Mid-Grade all together!
Sledge,
I hear you on the weight issues...have you ever considered air tools? I've never seen an air belt sander but maybe a rotary disk or one of them in-line body shop sanders might work. Air is inefficient as all get out (you'll need a big compressor to run an air tool continuously) but the tooling is light.
Just a thought...
Jon.
Jon-
That is not a bad idea. I have a pancake compressor that I can get 150 psi max out of. It is enough to run my IR impact and bust lug nuts off cars with.. I may actually investigate that further. Thanks for the tip!!
:)
Well spoken Jon.
Can I get an AMEN!Quote:
Originally Posted by sledge
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum
You see, I don't understand this. All I have used for the last 25 years or so is Robertson screws and bits. In the cabinet trade, it is the standard. It is starting to catch on with carpenters because they have discovered how well they hold up to an abusive installer. It takes some serious abuse to round one of them out. Phillips heads are for drywall and machine screws, slotted screws are for the steel bin...
I try to find the ones made out of unobtainium. So far no luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinroch