regulations for my x-mas present this year caught me with my pants down

so for Christmas the crt regulations finally caught up with us over here in our corner of iowa. I new it was coming just did not know when and now I am sitting on about 130 TV's/monitors its all that worse.
I had it easy for a long time though as here before it was that the garbage would not pick them up with out paying but our city grinds and separates our garbage taking out metals and most glass before its used with coal to burn for making our electricity.
so maybe not the greatest recycling but better than land filling it. the best part was that for $22 a truck load I could stack um high and the insides paid for it and a bit of profit as well. so now the even worse and dreaded regulations came from the Grinch down from the mountain and said.....
crts now are considered hazardous waste for over 3 or more and can only be transported and such with out special licensing which I can not get because I am to small to build a regulated facility. so I am limited to landfilling them for 3 a day which is expensive or the city limits to 2 each day which at a car load trash rate of $8 still means $4each. so its going to be a pain slowly slowly having to get rid of them.
on top of which I now have to charge everyone now cause it costing me money which may cost me business because a lot of my regulars give me so much because I save them so much by taking monitors with computers. so because of the influx this time of year and being lazy a bit the last month I am now sitting on so many lumps of coal in my stocking

I'm in the same boat sort of speaking on the crt issue, it might be worth looking into a processing facility that will take them so their not landfilled. Here in NY I can only think of one facility that actually accepts crt stuff and doesn't stockpile em, then exports em. CRT's are fastly becoming a problem all over not just Iowa.

I don't get that many CRT's and when I do I know someone who is always willing to take them. He tells me to just put them on his trailer. It's usually just 2 or 3 but yesterday I left him 20. Not sure what I would do with 130.

In Indiana we had a ewaste buyer that had some company that would leave a dumpster for them and they disposed of theirs that way.
It has to be a recycler around Northeast Ind. I seen this with my own eyes and could not believe the size of a 30 yard box. :-o

The ewaste recycler has been gone now for a couple of years so it's a little hard to ask him now.

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I'm in the same boat sort of speaking on the crt issue, it might be worth looking into a processing facility that will take them so their not landfilled. Here in NY I can only think of one facility that actually accepts crt stuff and doesn't stockpile em, then exports em. CRT's are fastly becoming a problem all over not just Iowa.

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Crt's have been a problem a long time for a lot of scrappers. Sadly our best solution is to find an exporter . The problem with them in these last few years or more is, that the product manufactured from the glass was new crt's. New products need to be developed that can utilize CRT glass. But that's out of my pay grade. For now I'm good on having a drop off place. But change is coming, I can feel it.

I purged my last load of CRTs a couple of weeks ago. Our town takes all electronics for free, so I hauled a pickup truck load in.

I'm glad to be free of the CRTs. I can't give you much in the way of advice, but if you were in a pinch, maybe there's a recyler that would take them at a collection event???

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Originally Posted by junkfreak

Crt's have been a problem a long time for a lot of scrappers. Sadly our best solution is to find an exporter . The problem with them in these last few years or more is, that the product manufactured from the glass was new crt's. New products need to be developed that can utilize CRT glass. But that's out of my pay grade. For now I'm good on having a drop off place. But change is coming, I can feel it.

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I got into this trying to avoid exporting at all. We don't need to be sending out junk to other countries. It was suggested to me to contact NuLife here in NY(which I have and am awaiting response) but for now, everyone else who has CRTs should do the same - at least they have the facility to handle this. Sure alot of you guys will have to bite the bullet on shipping but it's better to do that then to give them to some outfit who's just going to export em.

Not me. :)

We've had these type of regulations in effect for a little bit now, but nowhere near as strict. For example...no limit on turning them in.

No special permit needed to carry so many or any of that nonsense.

This is why you do it right with disposing of them...eventually your town, city, county or state is going to make rules. Would you rather unload 130 whole tv's or find somewhere to dump your several hundred pounds of leaded glass that is now considered hazardous waste by your local government? (Not directed to the OP, just a side note from a prior thread. I know the OP got handled them properly, or so I gather from his own words.)

Sorry to see this happened to you. Especially how strict it is with the limits an permit to carry/drop off more then 3.

I'll keep taking them long as I have an outlet for them.

Sirscrapalot - Getting funky like a monkey.

unfortunately you can rarely get anyone to accept them if you gut them. they want the profit themselves so for us small time or part timers we cant really touch & turn a profit on them. the regulation on them is getting worse and worse this drives cost up and up.

regulation is part of why they end up in ditches and other spots they dont belong. it is why you hear about people dropping them down spear holes out ice fishing. they know its wrong but cost wise they got cornered with a huge amount and needed to figure out how to get rid of them. the regulations are gonna make crap like that worse.

i could landfill them but choose to be more environmentally responsible about it. because of this i rarely take crt tube devices unless it comes with a very large load. i pay alot more at $0.30 / # to my main recycler to deal with them but at least i know they are done right. i can even get a paper trail on them to prove responsible disposal. i average around $10-35 each now to dispose depending on size and weight. the $3-5 in goodies plus time, fuel, etc. make them less profitable but adding in disposal... without massive charges we cant support correct & proper disposal and opperate processing them.

they were my bread and butter taking them by the ton before costs of disposal went through the roof. i ate disposing of the last of them and it was a very bitter pill to the tune of $1200 / ton of crt tubes. i will not touch them now unless in large load of metal or e waste i dont have to pay to dispose of and only then from old repeat customers.

I'm glad to be done with CRTs... forever. Our town reopened the computer recycling bin (Last outfit refused to pick up all the CRTs), and I jumped on it. The only other facility out here that takes them charges $0.50 per pound.

I hauled a large load in with my truck (8' bed, with a stake rack, stacked cab high). Lesson learned- I won't touch them.

If our town quits taking them again, though, nobody will handle them within 200 miles. The $0.50/pound place is about 200 miles away, and outside of them, it's another 200 miles to another facility.

The law of unintended consequences has yet to be broken.

New regulations here:):):)
All e-waste ranging from Microwaves pc's crt's ext are now subject to $.18/lb fee at the transfer stations. Unintended consequence... they forgot about the couple guys grabbing this stuff for free... It's madness we pass each other 5 times a day with big smiles and waves as we pass each other with our trucks LOADED.
Winter slowdown....not anymore:cool:
And they also got a nice new floor scale with digital output down there. I can weigh my copper buckets at and watch the attendants drool over em.

ya I wont export them with a company that does. it will take time but will still go through the city as its just a smidge better. we do not have a lot of companies around that do recycle and the ones we do are r-2 but with that comes even greater cost as the one close to me is 75cents pound which was quoted to a friend that has similar issues but he does not do electronics but gets them from clean outs. could be cheaper or more now but waiting for a quote as I want them to come get them if I am going to shuck out that much since they can all at one time being certified.
regulations are not a bad thing in general for this as I do what I do to make money while cleaning up peoples trash but for all those who clean up TV's and monitors were I don't pick them up I worry its going to lead to more smashing or hill/ditch dumping that we have had no real problems with before.

Up here in Canada, I've been getting .08 cents a pound for CRT's. My last load was complete with a projection TV and even an old wooden floor model. I had 800lbs+ in my 8ft pickup box and I scored 65$. I got about 120$ this year in CRT's with 2 loads. I don't even have to take them apart.

One of the Northern perks I guess...

What about Goodwill? They take all of mine that are stripped.

I know the one we had near Sioux City wouldn't touch em and neither will the ones up here. CRTs have alot of people on edge.

Travis, I just took a pickup bed full of TV's to Metro Waste near Mitchellville, they asked how many, I told them and paid them. But what I've been doing is telling people it's $40 per TV to dispose of them. I don't open them at all, just take them in and pay them the $15 per unit price.

Ok don't f a round with 3 at a time get with the people who are charging and make a deal with them. You have a bunch, they want them if you have alot they can't think that they will get there price for 1 or 2 of them! When you have many at the same time..

I am with superdave. $.08 per lb. working on my 3rd pickup load of around 1000lbs. I do harvest the easy goodies though. Everyone is getting rid of these things and five years from now everything "we" buy today as far as electronics will be just as plentiful as crt's today. The government will come up with regulations and it will be up to creative people like us to develop a business out it.

Transformers - copper in disguise.

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New regulations here:):):)
All e-waste ranging from Microwaves pc's crt's ext are now subject to $.18/lb fee at the transfer stations. Unintended consequence... they forgot about the couple guys grabbing this stuff for free... It's madness we pass each other 5 times a day with big smiles and waves as we pass each other with our trucks LOADED.
Winter slowdown....not anymore:cool:
And they also got a nice new floor scale with digital output down there. I can weigh my copper buckets at and watch the attendants drool over em.

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I don't get it. You're doing what 5 times a day?

I'm in Ames too, I haven't been able to do a lot of scrapping while going to ISU unfortunately. I've been able to get rid of the CRT's I have come across at the local Goodwill, it's been a couple of months though, They may have changed something since then.

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I don't get it. You're doing what 5 times a day?

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Passing the couple other scrappers in my town, on the road, while driving.

It's a small town...very small town.... 600ish year round residents and only a few roads in town, less through the mountain passes. I will pass the other scrappers out on the road multiple times. We all know each other and for the most part keep it friendly waving and talking shop when we run into each other. We have all been busy since they added this regulation... NO ONE wants to pay to toss out "e-waste" and in a town this small we all know and grew up with each other it's as simple as picking up the phone and your "e-waste" is gone FREE.
Not what the town or state had in mind when they passed this..lol
As much as the few of us try many more lb's are ending up in gully's and ditches then in the hands of the scrappers and transfer stations.
Unfortunately this is the direct result of what was passed. It didn't start the illegal dumping but it certainly didn't help matters any.

I read some media source that only 20% of tvs get recycled. Maybe this will go up with more scrappers and over-the-horizon gov reg thinking. Maybe not...