Need help pricing a boat for scrap.

Hey guys. I have a woman who owns an apartment complex contact me about removing this boat she's had in her parking lot for about 10 years now. SHe thinks it's aluminum, but I haven't seen it yet, I'm going over there tomorrow, it's about 40-45 miles away. I'm sure the tires are shot, so I'll have to replace them. She also 3 washers and a fridge she wants gone. Figured I'd just find a way of tossing them into the boat.

Around here, alum breakage is 15 cents a pound, hoping with my sawzall and tools I can remove all the steel and get 45 cents a pound for clean alum. Appliance bring 8 cents a pound at a different yard in town. Thinking I might also keep the boat trailer and make a custom scrap trailer out of it. God knows I need one.

But I've never done anything quite like this before, and I'm wonder what's a good price to give for all this stuff. She also said that the guy who used to come buy and pick her dead appliances hasn't been round in a while, so I may have a reliable client if I play this right. And I'm supposed to go pick it up tomorrow.

Suggestions?

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I think you could sell the boat. Many people "think" they want a fix up boat! (Untill they have one!) I would not offer much, and if she did want alot for boat, I would then ask if she wants to still get rid of the appliances!

I've been thinking maybe 100 tops.

Sounds like she may be in a pinch. I'd offer 75-100 for boat/trailers (try to sell boat first, tis the season, should be able to get at least $250 based on pics) and maybe free pickup every time she has more than 3 appliances to junk. Would be handy if you could find a yard close to this place so you don't have to haul them that far and waste gas. However, for 2 hours of drive time, 1/2 hr. loading/strapping, and another 1/2-1 hr. of your time hauling to scrap yard calculate if its worth picking up her scrap. By the way, how will you recover gas from fridge? Do you have a guy or does your yard accept them charged?

I have an hvac friend nearby who empties all my compressors.

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Originally Posted by HollandScotts

I've been thinking maybe 100 tops.

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Brother, if you get that for $100, I will be green with envy!!
2nd.....don't scrap it!!!! Especially if the motor comes with. Idk, maybe boat prices aren't the same down there, but up here people ask 3-400 for a 12-14 flat jon with no trailer or motor. Heck, I plopped $800 for a 16' semi v with trolling motor last year.....and that was a deal!!

I'm with hobo, someone wants a project boat.

Unless it has massive holes or cracked down the hull, never scrap a boat....unless aluminum prices reach monumental levels. And the motor, someone will want...working or not.

P.S. find out if it has a title, otherwise it could be difficult to retitle....and check on the rear of the boat for the I.d. #. And.....The real reason I'm responding again is to ask what you'll do about towing it without a valid license plate...especially if it's not titled? Trailer must be titled too....at least up here it is....and with functioning tail lights. CYA!!!

It has no title, and I'm sure the tags are out, been sitting ten years. The owner died and it's been sitting in the complex ever since. I would like to sell it, but I don't have much time to sit on it, gotta turn it around pretty quickly. I'm just going to take the back tag off my truck and put it on the trailer and take as many backroads as I can. Not seeing much of a choice.

DO NOT PUT YOUR TRUCK TAG ON THAT TRAILER. That's a crime way worse then no tag.
Just get a bill of sale from her, you have 10 days to tag the trailer.

I second what olddude said...my boy got in all kind a shiznit for using a tag from a different car that he owned.

I third what old dude said!!!! I've pulled a boat without a plate and taken back roads...would never advise it on a forum, but I would definitely NOT put your truck plate on it. The "tag" I'm referring to on the back should be riveted...basically a vin # for a boat. If you have that, it wouldn't be hard to title. Would require an officer to come out and run it before going to the Bureau...at least in IN.

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Originally Posted by olddude

DO NOT PUT YOUR TRUCK TAG ON THAT TRAILER. That's a crime way worse then no tag.
Just get a bill of sale from her, you have 10 days to tag the trailer.

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Laws vary
All depends on what State you are in
In Ma you have to have Insurance and then you get tags, which you can't do without a title
In Ma if you purchase a car, If you have disposed of your old one (NOT parked in your driveway BUT sold to someone else or squished) , you can attach the old plate to your new car and you have 7 days to transfer the Insurance and go to the RMV and transfer the tags
Not sure if it works the same with trailers
In Ma I would slap my trailer tag on it and good to go to drive it home

Most in this area take older trailers like that with no Title and Register as home made and get a title that way
I wouldn't put a Car or Truck plate on a trailer as you are just asking to get pulled over at that point
Trailer Tags in MA say Trailer on them

To register the boat and put it on the road (in the water) >> can't do in Ma without the title

I'll call the dmv and cops and see what they say. I just need to haul it from there to the house, and then maybe to the scrapper if she don't sell soon. Appreciate the advice guys. Still not sure how much to offer. I know 100 would be nice, and I'm hoping she'll take it. She mostly just wants it gone. She has money coming in from the apartment complex. This is mostly just an eyesore for her.

start low, an ramp up your offer to your limit.

Price floats..ha ha! I slay me. Oh an I could make a killing on that thing here on resale. Then again I'm two miles out in the ocean. ;)

Sirscrapalot - Blackbeard died near here. - Fun sandbar fact

Yea, something tell me I'll get pulled over between here and Florida. :)

Well if that was to me...I'd say so, being as I'm off the coast of NC.

;)

Sirscrapalot - If you hit Florida, you've gone to far.

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Originally Posted by jiffy117

Sounds like she may be in a pinch. I'd offer 75-100 for boat/trailers (try to sell boat first, tis the season, should be able to get at least $250 based on pics) and maybe free pickup every time she has more than 3 appliances to junk. Would be handy if you could find a yard close to this place so you don't have to haul them that far and waste gas. However, for 2 hours of drive time, 1/2 hr. loading/strapping, and another 1/2-1 hr. of your time hauling to scrap yard calculate if its worth picking up her scrap. By the way, how will you recover gas from fridge? Do you have a guy or does your yard accept them charged?

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I'm not even sure 5 appliances would be worth driving 45 miles for. lets say he gets 5 washers or dryers, at steel price lets average them out to $8.00 a piece. $45.00 minus gas minus taxes minus cost of goods = maybe not worth it. Now, if she could guarantee him about 8 appliances he could stack them on his truck and maybe like you say, find a nearby yard to turn in to.

OP, is she giving you the appliances for free? I would also be careful about loading this into the boat. that might not be so safe.

I offered her half of what I get for the apps, which is 4 bucks. That far for only 4 apps, that's a break even scenario at best. The boat is what I'm going for. I figure between the truck and boat, the apps should fit safely enough.

Okay, here's the filthy capitalist pig chiming in once again.

I CHARGE to take boats away. You have to inflate or replace tires, have them find you the title if they can, get the title transferred, hook up magnetic lights because theirs never work, pull it out without getting stuck in the mud, drive it down the road without getting pulled over for no plate or taillights, and if you're scrapping it cut it into bite-size chunks your yard will take.

Then I take them to auction without bothering to try to sell myself.

No way would I pay for this.

And those other trailers will sell in a heartbeat at auction even as beat up as they are.

I second Burlyguy's comment. Don't pay for this. And I speak from experience when I tell you that trying to re-title a boat in TX is a MASSIVE PITA. There's like one place in NE Texas to get it done, it's over in Garland off I-30, and the wait times are HORRIBLE. Way worse than DMV. Then, when you finally do get to the front of the line, they just give you the paperwork you need to take BACK to the seller and have them fill out in front of a notary, then bring BACK to the boat licensing place.

With a 45 mile trip each way, I'd pass... but if I HAD TO do it, I'd charge her AT LEAST 100 bucks to haul off the junk, and then get on the Texas Fishing Forum & try to sell the boat as untitled.

You can resell just the engine for 300 lol. You should post the boat up on craigslist for like 800 obo n there ya go. If no title then scrap boat n sell motor

Id see if I could get the motor running. If you have a hull, trailer and motor that runs, you dont have much of a project, more of a usable boat! That would be a great weekend runabout for anglers who just wanna get out on the wayer. Even myself, id love that thing up at the lake.... now im excited for summer. Just gotta wait for the ice to move out!

How much would ya'll say that it weighs? I'm getting conflicting estimates.

Also wondering if I can pull that with my 4 cyl ford ranger.

Id say under 2500lbs. If its just a hull, trailer and motor. Motor couple hundred pounds. Id say 350 at the most. Trailer maybe 500. Boat 1500? Im just completely guessing but Im sure the ranger would get the job done. Just go slow and keep space between you and cars ahead. Whats the max tow weight of your ranger?

I'm really not sure, I've heard around 1600. But I've never towed anything with it before.

My 4cyl Tacoma is rated for 3500...I'd think it would be similar.

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Originally Posted by HollandScotts

I'm really not sure, I've heard around 1600. But I've never towed anything with it before.

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You have just a ball thru the bumper or a regular 2X2 trailer hitch?

I agree with burly on this one. First, she called you, the first words out of my mouth would have been "are you looking to sell it or do you just want it gone". That's not a bad looking boat but your taking a chance buying it with no paper work from the owner of the boat. The boat has registration #'s on it, you should be able the look up the owner or owners family using those #'s and try to get a noterized paper from them showing you as the rightfull owner. I live on the west coast of Florida and could get at least 1,000.00 for the boat,motor and trailor.

I just have the hitch going straight through the bumper.

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Originally Posted by HollandScotts

I just have the hitch going straight through the bumper.

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You won't do 1600 with a bumper hitch, It'll only a 300-500 tongue weight.

not much tongue weight on a little aluminum boat, if you can pick it up by yourself you would be fine for tongue weight, the weight will be pretty centered on the wheels of the trailer. I don't see a little aluminum boat being any trouble for you to tow unless your bumper is rusted out

Well Hollandscotts, how did this turn out? Just wondering. ;)

Scheduling issues and other jobs forced me to put it off till Monday. Trying to get ahold of another truck to tow it with. Mine just doesn't have much power, there's a couple hills, going through a county with bad cops, a boat that's not legally mine, and no light hook-ups on my truck. And she won't take any less than 100$ for it.

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Originally Posted by HollandScotts

Scheduling issues and other jobs forced me to put it off till Monday. Trying to get ahold of another truck to tow it with. Mine just doesn't have much power, there's a couple hills, going through a county with bad cops, a boat that's not legally mine, and no light hook-ups on my truck. And she won't take any less than 100$ for it.

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Pass.

I have to say unless you can get legal ownership of this boat and use it as a boat I would run away from this deal. The engine appears to be very old and of little or no resale value other than scrap. I would expect to find some foam in the open spaces of the boat making it difficult to make the boat sell-able as clean Al.

I could think of a lot of other places to spend that $100 to buy scrap. Very best of luck but I suggest you reconsider this deal. Mike.

Do what you will, but I'd pass.

If not, I'd say it'll definitely be a learning experience! ;)


EDIT: If you haven't already, I'd suggest posting your query on texasfishingforum dotcom & see what those guys have to say.

I appreciate all of the advice guys, a fountain of information. I'm definitely reconsidering this deal in light of all my research and your advice.