The Yard Check Bounced

Turned in some metal last week and got paid via check. Went to the check cashing place to kill two birds with one stone, cash check and pay a bill. Check mailbox today for yesterday's (Saturdays) mail and got a letter from the check cashing place demanding value of the check plus $30 return fee. My plan is to march over to the yard first thing tomorrow and demand they make good on this check and cover all fees. I'm hoping this goes well, where do you guys/gals stand? Ever been down this road before?

Well the yard should be good for this. If they dont want to cover the fee ask them for 20 lbs copper scrap!

I'm thinking they are going to handle it. I'm a regular there and they know my face. Heck, they don't even ask for my id anymore.

Well I would go to the scrap yard talk to the manager only, be as low key as you can. He should give you the cash for the check plus the charges, tell him you will bring back the check after you bring back the cash to the check cashing store.The Worst thing for a scrap yard is for the world to go around there money is no good.After you get it all straighten out find you self a new yard, they issued the check knowing that it was no good, believe me they knew, Good luck! How much was the check for?

Couldn't have said it better myself 1956!

I went through this once - kind of. I showed up at a yard to find a Closed sign in the door. Talked to the manager. A check had bounced earlier that day. Now, he needed to wait till he got paid for his last shipment to be able to accept any more. Within a month, the yard closed permanently. That's why the first advice to guys who want to start a scrap yard is - have deep pockets. Nothing will kill a scrap yard faster - even a small-time guy - than a bounced check. My advice is get the money for the stuff you sold plus fees and in cash - that is if you are legally responsible to the check-cashing place. If not - let them go after the yard themselves. Regardless, your next move should be finding a new yard. You'll need it. That one isn't managing cash flow.

Better hope they aint closed

I wonder how many others got rubber checks from that yard, last week? :(

I got a bad check from a Ewaste buyer once, the county prosecutor got my money for me. LOL

You would think the check cashing store would go after the yard, since they wrote the check. I'll never understand those places.

An yea..bad form for the yard totally. I know I'd be going elsewhere with my business. It's one reason I don't use the other yard close to me, I just don't trust them to follow through on the payment, an they are very shady..an rather idiotic. They will tell people there is a toz of gold in a computer, an argue with you over it when you correct them. Yards like that just boggle my mind.

Sirscrpaalot - I'm always looking for meaningful one-night stands. - Dudley Moore

If they don't make it good pluss fees file charges. It is illegal to write bad checks but you have to give them a chance to make it right.

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Originally Posted by 1956

Well I would go to the scrap yard talk to the manager only, be as low key as you can. He should give you the cash for the check plus the charges, tell him you will bring back the check after you bring back the cash to the check cashing store.The Worst thing for a scrap yard is for the world to go around there money is no good.After you get it all straighten out find you self a new yard, they issued the check knowing that it was no good, believe me they knew, Good luck! How much was the check for?

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It was a tiny $104, if I have to eat the $30 fee, no problem, but I do expect them to cover their portion.

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Originally Posted by Mick

I went through this once - kind of. I showed up at a yard to find a Closed sign in the door. Talked to the manager. A check had bounced earlier that day. Now, he needed to wait till he got paid for his last shipment to be able to accept any more. Within a month, the yard closed permanently. That's why the first advice to guys who want to start a scrap yard is - have deep pockets. Nothing will kill a scrap yard faster - even a small-time guy - than a bounced check. My advice is get the money for the stuff you sold plus fees and in cash - that is if you are legally responsible to the check-cashing place. If not - let them go after the yard themselves. Regardless, your next move should be finding a new yard. You'll need it. That one isn't managing cash flow.

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Good advice and I'm on it.

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Originally Posted by happyscraper

If they don't make it good pluss fees file charges. It is illegal to write bad checks but you have to give them a chance to make it right.

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Well said, I will stay cool as the other side of the pillow.

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Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot

You would think the check cashing store would go after the yard, since they wrote the check. I'll never understand those places.

An yea..bad form for the yard totally. I know I'd be going elsewhere with my business. It's one reason I don't use the other yard close to me, I just don't trust them to follow through on the payment, an they are very shady..an rather idiotic. They will tell people there is a toz of gold in a computer, an argue with you over it when you correct them. Yards like that just boggle my mind.

Sirscrpaalot - I'm always looking for meaningful one-night stands. - Dudley Moore

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I will gladly sell them scrap computers for $75 each and let them make a nice profit on the toz of gold

Hey Everyone, I'm happy to report the yard took care of everything in flying colors. I called the check cashing place just to confirm and it was all good. Thanks for all the input everyone.

states attorney. Nuf said.

Good advice on how to handle the situation when receiving a bad check. What course of action do we have when material is shipped to an ewaste buyer and nothing happens? No response, no email, no contact, unanswered phone calls, etc. A post office receipt that it was delivered is all that I have. Suggestions?

I don't have to worry about bad checks-I have one of the scrap yard's bins at my place!

They don't pay-bye bye $5,000.00 bin!

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Originally Posted by numbers

Good advice on how to handle the situation when receiving a bad check. What course of action do we have when material is shipped to an ewaste buyer and nothing happens? No response, no email, no contact, unanswered phone calls, etc. A post office receipt that it was delivered is all that I have. Suggestions?

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I would be in contact with their county's prosecutor. They pursue that type of things. Tell them you would like to press charges.

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Originally Posted by numbers

Good advice on how to handle the situation when receiving a bad check. What course of action do we have when material is shipped to an ewaste buyer and nothing happens? No response, no email, no contact, unanswered phone calls, etc. A post office receipt that it was delivered is all that I have. Suggestions?

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Wow, that's messed up. Before I send anything via mail, I do extensive reference check. In my case though, I live an hour and a half away from my guy. You have a name and an address, start there. Do a police report, then contact an attorney. You may me need small claims court.

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Originally Posted by TheRecycler

Hey Everyone, I'm happy to report the yard took care of everything in flying colors. I called the check cashing place just to confirm and it was all good. Thanks for all the input everyone.

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Glad it worked out for you - there's still some decent folks out there!

the yards i deal with all pay CASH on your way out. always i even scrapped an old highway trailer once (14 000lbs or so) they pulled me into the back office and started counting 100's. what posible benifit could adding the complications of payment by cheque have to anyone involved? cash is king, if you cant pay cash you cant afford it, etc etc. paypal would make more sence in this day and age then a cheque..... i mean cmon

Everyone uses checks. Cash is a hassel alot. Most yards have a bank backing them so they may not always have the cash on hand.

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Originally Posted by steve129

the yards i deal with all pay CASH on your way out. always i even scrapped an old highway trailer once (14 000lbs or so) they pulled me into the back office and started counting 100's. what posible benifit could adding the complications of payment by cheque have to anyone involved? cash is king, if you cant pay cash you cant afford it, etc etc. paypal would make more sence in this day and age then a cheque..... i mean cmon

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I think having too much cash on hand is dangerous. Heavens know May show up there with a bad attitude. In New York and Florida I notice that once your load is of a certain amount, you're getting cash.

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Originally Posted by TheRecycler

I think having too much cash on hand is dangerous. Heavens know May show up there with a bad attitude. In New York and Florida I notice that once your load is of a certain amount, you're getting cash.

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so they pay cash for larger loads and make you deal with a cheque for smaller amounts? seems backwards to me.... here allot of them are in a booth behind plex with the register ive seen automated machines that dispense cash for material received on tv..... it would seem to me you would want the paper trail to be larger on bigger payouts over small to avoid tax evasion, money laundering etc but they do it backwards from my logic? lol

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Originally Posted by ResourcefulRecycling

Everyone uses checks. Cash is a hassel alot. Most yards have a bank backing them so they may not always have the cash on hand.

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HUH? Ca$H is a Hassle ???
To me checks are the Hassle >> inconvenience, bother, nuisance, problem, trouble, struggle, difficulty, annoyance, irritation, thorn in one's side/flesh, fuss;

I would think that if the yard has a bank backing them they would ALWAYS have Ca$H on hand

Seems you have it backwards

Yards in this area ALWAYS pay ca$H
RAS pays with a check drawn on BOA that can be cashed at the BOA you pass on the way back to route 95

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Originally Posted by JohnC4X4

HUH? Ca$H is a Hassle ???
To me checks are the Hassle >> inconvenience, bother, nuisance, problem, trouble, struggle, difficulty, annoyance, irritation, thorn in one's side/flesh, fuss;

I would think that if the yard has a bank backing them they would ALWAYS have Ca$H on hand

Seems you have it backwards

Yards in this area ALWAYS pay ca$H
RAS pays with a check drawn on BOA that can be cashed at the BOA you pass on the way back to route 95

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I get your point. Anyhow, dropped off another load today and you guessed it, I got another check. The check cashed fine so let's see what happens in a few days.

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Originally Posted by TheRecycler

I get your point. Anyhow, dropped off another load today and you guessed it, I got another check. The check cashed fine so let's see what happens in a few days.

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If they gave me a bad check once, shame on them if they give me a bad check again, shame on me! Did you ask for cash? I would of...

My yard pays in cash. Never seen them issue a check.

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Originally Posted by JohnC4X4

HUH? Ca$H is a Hassle ???
To me checks are the Hassle >> inconvenience, bother, nuisance, problem, trouble, struggle, difficulty, annoyance, irritation, thorn in one's side/flesh, fuss;

I would think that if the yard has a bank backing them they would ALWAYS have Ca$H on hand

Seems you have it backwards

Yards in this area ALWAYS pay ca$H
RAS pays with a check drawn on BOA that can be cashed at the BOA you pass on the way back to route 95

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I agree. Cash is trouble free. I worked at the yard I deal with. Bullet proof glass and several employees behind the glass carry a firearm ,which is visible to everyone. Very effective deterrent.

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Originally Posted by junkfreak

I agree. Cash is trouble free. I worked at the yard I deal with. Bullet proof glass and several employees behind the glass carry a firearm ,which is visible to everyone. Very effective deterrent.

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Mine does cash as well... but the only guy carrying a gun behind my yard's bulletproof glass is the off-duty cop that's there the whole time the place is open.

I had the same thing happen to me here in Hawaii (not a yard), and it was for a very large company. So I was kind of like wow.. their check bounced?

Someone didn't put my routing information in correctly? Can't remember exactly what the issue was, but they sent me another check + fees.

Honest mistake!

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Originally Posted by hobo finds

If they gave me a bad check once, shame on t
hem if they give me a bad check again, shame on me! Did you ask for cash? I would of...

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Hell yea, but they did not have enough to pay me.

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Originally Posted by TheRecycler

Hell yea, but they did not have enough to pay me.

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so they didnt have the funds to buy your material they should have never unloaded it. if i show up at a persons house after agreeing to buy a car and say something like "oh well i have $20 on me ill pay you the rest after i sell the car" how many cars do you think i would be able to buy? do they pay you interest for the time you are not able to access money that is rightfully yours? no.....

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Originally Posted by steve129

so they didnt have the funds to buy your material they should have never unloaded it. if i show up at a persons house after agreeing to buy a car and say something like "oh well i have $20 on me ill pay you the rest after i sell the car" how many cars do you think i would be able to buy? do they pay you interest for the time you are not able to access money that is rightfully yours? no.....

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Steve, I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and see out it pan out. So far so good.