Please help idendtify this vintage / super old... 15" plastic hard drive disc??

Not sure if this counts as electronics recycling, as this item has very little metal on it and one GIANT platter inside. I'm not finding any identifying marks on it. I can find information that IBM had some things that looked like this a long time ago, but I haven't found any photos that are exactly like this.

It doesn't look worth scrapping, but I am pretty sure it has value to a collector. As always, any help is appreciated!

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Hey Red, there's some questions are just more chance of finding info elsewhere, this may be one of em. Have you ever visited vintage computer forum? That might be a better place to get a quicker answer

Looks like an old magnetic drive. Cant recall the exact name but they were mounted like a reel to reel tape player. The machines were the size of a refrigerator. I remember as a kid going to work with my dad and he would let me change them out when a job finished running. I am sure Flimits will know what it is. Try sending her a pm to take a look. I agree with bear it may have more value to a collector than as scrap. Nice find...maybe where ever you aquired that the machine it goes to may still be around in a basement somewhere.

It looks a lot like an IBM 2310 or 2315 removable cartridge drive. It has a 14" (!!) oxide-coated aluminum platter inside.

Here's a pic:

http://www.tnmoc.org/sites/default/f...?itok=K9HjXlmf

Once again, our resident ancient computer expert keeps her title.

Nice call BC and FL.

an thanks for sharing that Red. Now someone find one of those old super computers, so we can see what's inside. >:)

Sirscrapalot - The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. - Ronald Regan

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an thanks for sharing that Red. Now someone find one of those old super computers, so we can see what's inside. >:)

Sirscrapalot - The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. - Ronald Regan

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I think there IS actually one there, but the building was built around it! It's in a shed on this farm and the guy put what I think might be the computer and a drive for this thing, one cabinet is the size of my kitchen table and the other is the size of my washing machine... but there is no way to remove it unless it gets disassembled.

So... I'm waiting on an answer to whether or not I can spend my weekend there taking it apart?!!

If I ran across one of these it would be one of those 'pinch me' moments! I love old gear like that, and it would have a happy home in the 'museum'!

Congratulations on the find, and I hope you get your weekend!

Ohhhhh mannnnnnn you better have a camera with you if you get the job. It would be a real pia, but it would be nice to get it out in one piece.

You get that job, I'll come out an shoot photos for you. Good time watching Red break down a super computer, topped with stopping by an bugging Auminer, an then swinging by an picking Wayne's brain on hot shotting.

I'm hoping you get the job. I'd have one fun week. ;)

Sirscrapalot - For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity. - Jean Debuffet

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You get that job, I'll come out an shoot photos for you. Good time watching Red break down a super computer, topped with stopping by an bugging Auminer, an then swinging by an picking Wayne's brain on hot shotting.

I'm hoping you get the job. I'd have one fun week. ;)

Sirscrapalot - For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity. - Jean Debuffet

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...but would you bring the cooler?!?!

Now that's just a silly question. You know better Red. >:)

One it's Texas, two the cooler always comes. If there isn't enough room, the dogs or wife have to stay at home.

Sirscrapalot - Good thing she can't read my posts or I'd be in trouble.

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I think there IS actually one there, but the building was built around it! It's in a shed on this farm and the guy put what I think might be the computer and a drive for this thing, one cabinet is the size of my kitchen table and the other is the size of my washing machine... but there is no way to remove it unless it gets disassembled.

So... I'm waiting on an answer to whether or not I can spend my weekend there taking it apart?!!

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Um, you want to disassemble the big computer?

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Reference in case anybody has forgotten or hasn't seen Space Odyssey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE

lol

Watch out Red, Hal is coming for you!

Sirscrapalot - It's called "Daisy". [sings while slowing down] Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. I'm half crazy, all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage. I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two...- HAL

If there is a way to get it out whole, I will give it my best shot. Would take at least 4 people to lift one part of it, and I think there are 3 parts there. Problem is, they literally built the shed around it and it won't fit through the door. This guy sold off his land and is trying to be out by the end of the week. He already has some yahoos running around with bulldozers and a wrecker destroying his 10 acres(!!) and 25 years(!!) of hoarding scrap. I am buying truckloads of stuff off him at a time, but his "helpers" killed a lot of stuff before I arrived. And before anyone yells at me, the metal, vehicles, and most of the large equipment is already under contract.

If he's going to demo the shed, I can rip out a wall and get some folks together to get that computer out. If not, it has to come out in pieces or it's getting dozed. Problem is he can't make up his mind what to do with it the shed, and that computer OLD and DUSTY and really hard to judge the condition. I'll try to get some pics but I really wish you were here FLimits, because I could use your help!! I have to follow this older guy around and listen to his rambles and if I'm not right no his heels he gets really paranoid. Took me 6.5 hours yesterday of helping him move stuff before I could get away with the truckload I bought. So it has been a REAL exercise in patience.

Every time I think we're done, he pulls out something else I've never seen before and asks me if I want it. His prices are cheap, I'm really just paying him in help and conversation. So I'll let you know about this super computer... thing!

Just teasing you, Red. HAL 9000 knows you're a friend. ;)

If you want me to see if there's anybody in your area who could go over to the site with you and try to help you figure out what the computer stuff is, send me a PM.

Your project sounds exciting. Congratulations!

Man, Red...I hope you can figure out how to get your hands on it. That would certinaly be a photo for the forum, even if you just put the sucker somewhere to stare at. ;)

Pretty cool of ya to try an help out from there FL. I'm sure you can scare up someone near him, soon as you mention "Super old and big computer.." haha.

Good luck an keep us updated on it Red.

An this thread is further proof why the members of this forum rock.

Sirscrapalot - Fun fact..the song "Daisy" was also in a episode of Mash.

Definitely looks like the IBM 2315 as FL said.

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If there is a way to get it out whole, I will give it my best shot. Would take at least 4 people to lift one part of it, and I think there are 3 parts there. Problem is, they literally built the shed around it and it won't fit through the door. This guy sold off his land and is trying to be out by the end of the week. He already has some yahoos running around with bulldozers and a wrecker destroying his 10 acres(!!) and 25 years(!!) of hoarding scrap. I am buying truckloads of stuff off him at a time, but his "helpers" killed a lot of stuff before I arrived. And before anyone yells at me, the metal, vehicles, and most of the large equipment is already under contract.

If he's going to demo the shed, I can rip out a wall and get some folks together to get that computer out. If not, it has to come out in pieces or it's getting dozed. Problem is he can't make up his mind what to do with it the shed, and that computer OLD and DUSTY and really hard to judge the condition. I'll try to get some pics but I really wish you were here FLimits, because I could use your help!! I have to follow this older guy around and listen to his rambles and if I'm not right no his heels he gets really paranoid. Took me 6.5 hours yesterday of helping him move stuff before I could get away with the truckload I bought. So it has been a REAL exercise in patience.

Every time I think we're done, he pulls out something else I've never seen before and asks me if I want it. His prices are cheap, I'm really just paying him in help and conversation. So I'll let you know about this super computer... thing!

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I'd say bring a helper or two, so you can talk to the guy and as he walks away, direct them to hump and dump and get stuff loaded.
If he asks, say "they're the backs not the brains, they wouldn't understand the value of our conversation." Just my doubloon.

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Just my doubloon.

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And a ducat to you for using "doubloon."

He's drunk, he meant 2 cents.

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Sirscrapalot - Ducat from flying bottles. - Bad puns...so much fun.

Got It!! won't get to cleaning the units up until maybe this weekend but will post photos once we have good ones... and just for those of you who will say it didn't happen here is a teaser of the three components I[IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psafeb885c.jpg[/IMG] got...
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Sircrapalot - Impressed, now..more pics when you open it! ;)

And we have a......:winner:. Nice job Red!!!! I know the urge to rip that puppy apart is strong but take some time and do some thorough searching to see if there is someone that wants it. That is a beauty you have there. Looks pretty clean for being stored away for so long. One of the best finds yet I have seen here posted.

Sure our resident "Let me find that old computer a home! expert Fl will chime in when she sees this. After all...

Hal needs a home!

I still request pictures of the inside, even if you just open it, so you can take said photos. ;)

Sirscrapalot - Must..resist..urge..to..break..down...repeat as needed.

Good lord, those will be some killer boards, probably nothing but IC's, Tantalum capacitors and thick gold fingers. Which leads us to some really killer backplanes and then to the pinboards. Geez, I think I got a buzz from just looking at those photos. Can you post scratch and sniff?

CONGRATS
pls-take pics for every step/stage of stripping-if possible
we all would like to so whats inside this bog boy

no doubt, this is an education u cant get anywhere else- and its free!

I'm trying my best to sell it all whole. It is worth several thousand to the right collector. I would truly hate to scrap these pieces of history, but alas if I must I will...

Talk about patience, how would you like to be the one that wired all those wires in that thing. Hey Red, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for that? I bet it was more than 5.00. LOL

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Talk about patience, how would you like to be the one that wired all those wires in that thing. Hey Red, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for that? I bet it was more than 5.00. LOL

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I'll let you know after I sell it ;)

It was a peripheral to the old IBM S/360 Mainframes. We had one here at my workplace 30 yrs ago. Now running a Z/9 Mainframe. But if I didn't see the IBM logo on it I would say it's a Roomba.

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It was a peripheral to the old IBM S/360 Mainframes. We had one here at my workplace 30 yrs ago. Now running a Z/9 Mainframe. But if I didn't see the IBM logo on it I would say it's a Roomba.

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What piece are you referring to? I have two of the Control Data 852 Disk Storage Drives(blue topped thing), and one of the large Control Data Peripheral Controllers (large cabinet). I don't actually think any of them said IBM...

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He's drunk, he meant 2 cents.

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Sirscrapalot - Ducat from flying bottles. - Bad puns...so much fun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5A0H6PkqE

Just out of curiosity. Is there anyone in the South Texas area interested in purchasing these Control Data 852 Disk Storage Drives(blue topped thing), or a Control Data Peripheral Controller (large cabinet)? Please PM me. I just really hate to scrap these guys. I have a local low ball offer but I really think these are worth a lot more. Just thought I would ask. Please PM me if you're interested or know someone who might be. Thanks!