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this spring ive noticed more "stealth scrappers". aka pickup trucks without ladder racks or wood sides. where i live, it's never been normal to not have walls, we drive trucks that look like the ones in the pic below. and it's harder to tell if they're scrappers unless you see the stop to get somethin, or when they become fully loaded. so i ask curbside scrappers, do you have walls or not?
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I have ran both ways....We call em sideboards around here (LOL)......It really doesn't make much difference in my opinion as they both have their advantgages........Sideboards do allow you to haul more scrap at one time but can get in the way doing other things.....Either way it really depends on what your focus is....I don't really need em to haul ewaste but when I hauled alot of heavy scrap they were worth it
I don't have walls but I plan on making some sideboards at the very least this year. I'm short so its already dicey for me to toss something heavy over the side of my truck and if I have walls I'd have to put the tailgate down every time I stopped for something large.
I've been piled that high before without walls with some inventive packing and strapping but I think at least sideboards or half way back walls are needed this year for safety as well as being able to carry more in one run.
Yikes, if those trucks were in California, the local cops and CHP would have a field day writing tickets. At least one ticket would be for not covering the load with a tarp or equivelant.
Get this: Arrive at the local landfill scales without the load being covered, could cost you $40.
I use a van so most never know.
I use removable sides
i use trucks and trailers most of the loads hit the trailer my liftgate truck has a riser no sides
Got one on the chevy but not on the toyota. Ganna build a "woodbox" that goes over the cab on my next truck.
In the UK we call them "greedy boards"
stealth scrappers ? the word stealth is to not be known . 4 years ago my van was perfect (a mini type) now it looks like a scrap van BUT true stealth is a vehicle not known on it's rounds till you finally have a nasty barbecue grill on top with a micro-wave nestled in wile your at it .
I have 2 trucks i use
86 chevy with 8 foot bed, no racks
f250 with 6 foot bed has ladder racks that go over the roof and window guard.
Lol, I used to be weary of every truck I saw until I saw minivans and small cars scrapping too now! SUV's are getting popular also around me. Now, everybody no matter what they drive is a possible stealth scrapperQuote:
Originally Posted by Copper Head
I am probably the least expected scrapper ever. 03 hyundai elantra black Nobody ever knows that I am a scrapper.
Honda CRV (actually full of scrap right now, making a trip tomorrow) or Subaru Forester stick with a 4ft - 8ft trailer. I can haul some pretty good weights in them.
That's like a scrap ninja!Quote:
Originally Posted by poundigity24
Ha..I used to have a 2003 Elantra...wife totaled it driving in the snow, exactly a month after I had paid it off...:mad: She was ok (thankfully!) but man I miss that **** car. Loved that little sucker.
I use a mini-van and I fill that sucker up and haul away. You can fit quite a bit in one, specially if you don't care about having the backseats in. I don't as I have 2 dogs, and no kids. So seats stay out cept for when the Niece comes to visit us, then I put one in and enjoy my week off from work.
Sirscrapalot - Did you hear how the egg beat the waffle in a race? He had a egg up on him!
I use a 2001 ton cargo van with a 12 by 7 foot dump trailer I have not put extended sides on it, but I have smashed the load down with my backhoe. The plate in the dump trailer is 1/4" and the square tubing is also thick it takes a beating, but it is also very heavy.
I also use a 2006 Nissan Titan with some type of kayak rack. family commuter and scrap chaser.
I have a few other trailers including an equipment trailer and a small 4 by 8 lite duty trailer with a ramp.
I also have a 1987 stake bed old Chevy truck with a harbor freight crane on the back it is presently registured inop.
It is a lot harder to get in rural areas and congested recycle places with a trailer.
Insurance is killing me I register three cars.
David
Yeah I love the Elantra. It is an 03 with 265,000 miles on it. But it is still going strong. Cant fit a whole lot but it is very unexpected at night.
I got boards on my S10 that rise slightly above the roof of the cab, actually gonna be reconstructing them with the warm weather coming to be a 4 wall box with either barn doors or a single door that opens to one side above the tailgate, alot easier to keep stuff in without having to hog-tie it all.
I do not use a cage. I'm in your general area and yes most guys trucks look like those ones. I just think it looks bad; I also like to cut risk by not calling attention to myself. I think if you have a professionally mounted mesh cage its acceptable. However, as you may have seen a lot of guys cages are very wobbley and looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen, wait till something falls out and causes harm.
If your insurance catches wind of what you are hauling and you are not carrying commercial insurance you might be up s*#!s creek without a paddle. I prefer to bed load the truck and transfer to my trailer. I also don't like the idea of parking what looks like people mistake as a garbage truck in my driveway. my trailer is parked in a lot a few miles a way. Instead of taking in 1,000 pounds a trip like most guys, I roll across the scales with payloads of 3 to 6 thousand, its a lot more efficient.
i dont, dont need them for ewaste
when we haul shred the truck bed and 24ft trailer work just fine without sideboards
I'm one of those stealth guys in the SUV... Not just any SUV mind you the #2 ugliest vehicle of all time, so much for inconspicuous...
Seriously, when I got into this, this is what I had and I can't afford a good truck yet. Down here, trucks hold their values very well so I'm gonna try and wait until I can buy a new one or newER one. For now, this ugly beast is my work horse. This is a picture of me moving PVC pipe. I drove this like for 8 miles from the hardware to my shop when I was building it. http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps72d6e3b9.jpg
Here is it actually pulling my shop square right before we roofed the right side.! (If you look close you can see the chain attached from my hitch to the very corner of my overhang.
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This is what I do to. However I have taken a couple loads by pickup bed, but I'd rather just take a full trailer load of 3-4 tons usually. Someday I'll have a gooseneck and can haul even bigger loads :cool: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Russell
board r good to have ... also bed frames work quite well
i've been pulling my box trailer with my jeep libby instead of my truck. just about doubles my millage. and i don't get any funny looks when i'm curb shoppin.
Oh yes love that term .Quote:
Originally Posted by gsxrjez
What strikes me from the pic is how overloaded all those half-ton trucks are. Every one of them is squatting in the rear. Light duty trucks do not have the components to SAFELY carry that much weight...and given that many of them are older, it's just a matter of time before the axle bearings or undercapacity brakes give up. Remember years ago seeing a half-ton longbed loaded with bags of feed to the roofline. It was on the shoulder of I35 with the bedside on the pavement and no Rt rear wheel to be seen. At least 3/4 ton and up have the capacity to carry the weight, along with the brakes to safely stop a heavily-loaded truck.
To answer the question, scrappers around here that I see usually do it with a trailer...usually a really beat-up trailer.
i get where you're coming from, but if a cop ever stopped me for an unsafe load, id ask him to see how easy it is to try to pull something out. i pack my loads good. and nothing has ever fallen out. i think catching attention can be a good thing, people recognize you scrap, and they will stop you and give you something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell
Ribbedroof noticed it too, that many of the trucks in the pics posted were way overloaded and most likely not safe vehicles. If you're gonna load up a truck it should be able to handle the load safely in accordance to the vehicle ratings and load registration. ie most of those those trucks in the pic would have a big problem if they had to stop on a commercial truck scale. I'm sure the fines would out-weigh the cargo load of scrap.
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Yes I have rack on my truck there have been a lot of times I needed it to save trips
2004 Buick Century. I make runs in 'illegal areas' and pack in what can't be seen. I call it 'ninja scrapping'. Then move to a 'scrapper friendly' area and pack in what I can.
Bad car in terms of load carrying and turning loads in, great for stealth!