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Driving by our neighbor who's doing a small renovation, I noticed that instead of a big roll-off steel container he had what looked like a giant grocery bag at the curb, with some demo debris in it. I realized that a bag like that might be very useful for my scrapping. But I have no idea what they are called, or how much they cost. Help!!! :) Thx
It's called a "Bagster" and is serviced by Waste Management. They are a pain in the a** to load and they are pretty expensive to empty. I would go with a regular roll off for construction waste. If we are talking about the same thing, they should look like this:
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They charge an arm and a leg to have them dumped by a special truck. It actually looks pretty dangerous to me:
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Yes, that's it, although the one I saw seemed to be smaller. Maybe they have different sizes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravitar
What I am thinking of using them for is to throw all the empty computer tower cases into them before they get picked up. I have a fence around my property and now I collect all those cases inside the fence and then carry them to the outside when my steel scrap pick up guy shows up. I thought it would be more convenient to throw them over the fence into one of those bags. The steel guy still would have to unload them manually into his truck but at least moving the stuff over the fence would be a lot faster (I think)
Sounds like a good idea. At first I thought you were talking about having WM collect the carcasses. LOL. You may want to add some kind of side support out of wood or something to hold up the sides to better hold in the sides better. The total investment wouldn't be more than $50 ( the bagster is $30 at home depot)Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyaz
The Bagster is 29.99 plus tax at Home Depot. If you have Waste Management haul it away they charge another 99 bucks. That being said there is no obligation to have them take your bag away. For 30 bucks that is an expensive container for your purposes, and it has no rigidity. A Gaylord would do the same thing, and be more durable, for about 15 bucks.
There really is nothing dangerous about having the Bagster taken away, unless you are one of those people who gives no thought to placement. If you make it inaccessible to their boom truck they won't take it, and once it is full the average homeowner is not moving it without emptying it and moving everything by hand.
I know all about the Bagster as it is one of the services I compete with. I advertise on CL that we take the Bagster away for $75.00 within a five mile radius of my shop.
Actually they don't dump them. They take the whole thing away and put it in the landfill as well. If you want another one you have to go and spend another thirty dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravitar
They are all the same size at 3 cubic yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyaz
I am trying to figure out if it's better than my current set up. I actually have some large wheeled trash bins -- like those the city gives everyone for trash and recycling -- where I throw my towers. Then I roll them to the other side of the fence for pick up. But they do not hold that much. IN fact, there is sort of a lot of wasted space with those bins. So a stack a lot of towers on the ground and then carry them over for pick up. So maybe I keep those bins and then when I am ready for pick up, then open up a bagster on the other side of the fence and throw stuff over into it. Maybe even having two bags: one on the inside, the other on the outside. Not sure if that's any better...Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
As far as a gaylord: aren't they made of cardboard? Which means that I can't keep them outside for long if it rains/snows. And unlike a bagster, I can't fold it.
I said "dump" instead of the word "collect" on accident. I think the Bagster is a good Idea but it is poorly executed in my opinion. It's much cheaper to rent a roll off from Republic Services or Progressive Waste for the amount of room you get. Or you could just use Burly Guys Junk removal which is the best option out of the three! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
You can buy a plastic water tank with steel sides for a little more. A lot of people cut the top off and you have yourself a reusable gaylord!Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyaz
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...gallontank.jpg
Hmm, never seen one of those before. An interesting idea, although I think I need something foldable on the outside since it's my driveway. Maybe I'll go ahead and spend $30 on a bagster. If it does not work, at least it won't take up half of my backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravitar
Actually, a Gaylord IS foldable. And although it is cardboard, it is very durable and will stand up to a lot of weather before needing to be replaced.
How big is it? And how easy is it to unload its contents by hand into a truck, relative to a bagster?Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlyGuys
We used TriWalls (gaylords) in Iraq, we had them in various hights. They varried from knee high to chest high.
why don't you just stack em like you've been doing, about 6 or 8 to a stack, and then pick em up with a two wheel hand truck, to roll them out a stack at a time, when your scrap man gets there?
I don't have a hand truck :) So I need to buy either that or a bagster. Plus throwing them over the fence might be easier that rolling them through a narrow gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear
I don't know how much stuff you move around, but a hand truck and a flat cart are two things a mover don't wanna be without ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyaz
Are u getting paid for the cases?? If not you are just giving away money.....On a busy week I make 200 to 300 just in scrap cases alone.....Anyways I can't afford to give away cases or any metal for that matter.........Also when I buy boards from individuals I pay .05 a lb for the cases and haul em to the yard for .11 a lb........Easy money
definately should have the hand truck for when you pick up stacks of whole computers or large scrap metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear
This is a question of scale and priorities: I don't deal with large volumes of towers and I don't have a truck. I have a family minivan which I use to carry my escrap (and my family, although not at the same time usually :)) but for the amount of $ I would get for those cases I prefer someone to come pick them up for free. I also would have to take time off my daytime job to take scrap to a yard. It's OK if I have a minivan full of boards or copper but not steel cases. Plus the steel guy sometimes brings me computers in exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeinreco
ilyaz I sound like you. I don't have a truck or the regular use of one. So from time to time when my garage was getting full of shred I would call a guy to come pick them up, stacking it outside isn't an option for me. But then I collected a bunch of totes for smaller shred items and started stacking the cases neatly to save room. When I went to the scrap yard I would load up (in my minivan) the copper, aluminum, whatever else I was taking then fill the rest with the totes of shred and cases. The first time I went I ended up with 42.00 of shred. Plus 355.00 for everything else. If stack right and with thought you won't damage the interior of the van. I feel it's worth it, more than pays for the gas to and from, plus some, just in shred.
Im with ya Ace. 98 mercury sable and the family Odyssey. Whenever the wife gets new bedspreads for the kids i take the old ones and use them like moving blankets when i haul in towers so i dont rip up the interiors. Lay them flat load the shred then throw a blanket or two over it.
I might give it a try. When I go to the yard I usually have more than half of my space taken up by the good stuff: copper, alum etc. So not much space for steel. But I might try filling it up with the case and see how much extra cash I get for thoseQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace
Only you know what works for you, but it doesn't make sense to give away even some lowly shred if you're going to your yard with less than a jam-packed van. If nothing else, you'll get gas money out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilyaz
I'm a mini-van driver, too, and I can tell you that you can fit a BOATLOAD of material in there with some practice. I pull the seats out if I have a bunch of stuff, and the low loading height is nice when I have appliances.
If you really wanted to maximize the space you use in shred, you could stuff the cases with smaller shred items, and steel cans. You could still be able to stack them, and you could pack quite a load. But that's just what I would do if I was in your situation. Gotta love having more pieces of paper in your hand when you walk out the door.
Good thinking! Not sure why I had never done that. I can smash down my case's from cd drives and floppy drives put them in the cases and put the covers back on. Nice suggestionQuote:
Originally Posted by Gravitar