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Does anyone know if there should be a price difference between green mobos and ones that are other colors? I am seeing some different prices because of this and as I am trying to get a load together to sell, I want to have a ballpark idea of what to expect to see $$$ wise.
No, there should not be a price difference, but there is. Not all buyers pay less for these but most do.
By this logic it would make sense to get a lower price on trimmed finger cards that are not green. I have not seen any buyer doing this.
I'm sticking with my theory that the whole thing is fishy.
There definitely is a price difference. Basically newer mobo's have less and less gold plating. Chinese colored ones are the lowest grade. You can find a few discussions about the price difference between green mobo's and other colors (purple, red, etc). Just do a search for "Chinese motherboards" and you get a few results like this:
http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/showt...aord-valuation
the older ones get better pricing from some buyers than the newer ones. Some buyers only offer a "mixed" price
I buy them at the same price and will not down grade the boards as long as they are mixed in with greenboards as well. Price for the boards is 3.70 a pound.
I've never understood why color matters. I have some P2 and P3 MOBO's that are yellow, purple, whatever. Are you telling me they have less gold in them than a P4 or newer Green MOBO???(this is just a rhetorical question not aimed at any one in particular). Like AuburnEwaste, I'm not buying that there is truly a difference.
I sell my motherboards to whoever offers a fair price for the whole lot of "mixed" green, yellow, red, etc.
As far as I understand, color matters only for newer (P-IV and newer) boards, i.e. those with "smaller" CPU slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAWTechnologies
Hey Easy, if someone sends you a box of all colored motherboards, do you lower the price and if so what is your price? Thanks:
If someone did send me a box of only colored boards or "crappy" boards I will stay with the price I have listed and most likely send them an e-mail letting them know what they need to do before the next shipment but if they send me a pallet full I will give them a call and it will be taken on a case by case.Quote:
Originally Posted by happyscraper
I try to be a honest buyer and this whole color board grading thing I feel is wrong in a few ways...you asking the seller (you) to put so much more work into the end product on top of more labor on our part to make sure it is what it should be! Since we send things off to the refiner if people start to only send the lower grade board our prices will have to drop to stay in the profit...but if people keep sending them as they are now..our prices will not change. That is also why when gold prices change as much as they have...our prices pretty much stay the same as we have that and many other things factored into our pricing.
One thing I have had people say from here and from other clients...they like stable prices that they can count on so we try to keep them as stable as we can and don't change them very often!
if you think all motherboards are the same, and that the buyers are screwing you on the grading/price, you should simply send your boards into your favorite processor.
then you can come back and claim that the processor screwed you on the recovery values.
or, for those who are unable to meet the minimums weight requirements, you could simply tear a few mother boards down. and compare the percentage of pin plating between the boards. on the newer boards you will notice that the memory slots and pci slots are no longer full coverage. those pins will only be plated at the contact point. for those who have excellent color vision, you will note that the plating on those pins is not as dark. this is from a thinner plating, flash plating, which results in a difference in the depth of the reflection. that results in less pm per sq inch of board.
there are some very competitive buyers in this business. they are far too competitive to start price fixing at this point. and if they were going to fix prices, they would start with higher grade components than motherboards.
you can expect to see a multi grading system for cards in the future. there is a rather noticeable difference between recovered rates of half height modems, ( especially the newer asian produced,) and the old graphic cards. we are not seeing as many of the newer low grade cards in comparison to the percentage of low grade motherboards.
easy is correct, which is a miracle in its self, a buyers pricing system is based on the recovered value of the material and their own margins. when the value drops, the buyers either reduce their price or their profits. that is a rather simple and easy decision.
i will let you guys go back to beating this dead horse.
have a great memorial week end.
we now have a time limit to post????
Easy, thank you for answering my post. I only asked about the price of lower grade mobo because it seems like I'm getting more and more of the lower grades.
Sure thing, Just all the board grading thing thats going on is just wrong and to much work and I sure as hell don't want to have to sub grade 1,000s of pounds of boards so I do not think you all want to either. That's why our price is based on the over all recovery rate we are getting on our boards at the refiner and not the so much the board type.Quote:
Originally Posted by happyscraper
We have been buying them mixed and still buy them mix and we have not seen a huge change in the recover rate...so why change it?
What ??? http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...cratchHead.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by rexreo7
Was kinda thinking the same thing. I think he is from the other side of the world or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanic688
Easy, from what I have read here, along with Ewasted is always on the forum helping us out with their knowledge and answering pm's and responding to threads even when they have been beaten like a dead horse. It can't be easy to try to run a business at a profit and at the same time trying to help others maximize their profit on materials that they are buying.
Posted above statement regarding anothers post that was removed, but I do appreciate what those guys do for everyone here.
I have seen the assay values on pre-year 2000 motherboards and the newer ones.
There is a huge difference in the amount of gold in the 2, and anyone telling you there isn't doesn't know what they are talking about, period.
It is not wrong for a buyer to decide how they want items sorted or how they are going to pay for them.
It is up to the sellers and buyers to find what is comfortable and profitable for them to stay in business.
Good luck to all.
Yes there is a value change but the boards have been sent mixed since 2000 and so why change it now? When we get the report back we gage it on the next load so if people send us a ton of low grade our prices will drop. This way we don't have to grade it 6 ways and pay have a huge paying scale and ect...all of this takes time and cost money. So I have found its best to just run things on a % scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relectrocycle
The way I look at it as the old stuff filters out and more newer stuff is introduced to the scrap market the price of ewaste will gradually decline.........This is unfortunate but the fact is the manufacturers of these computers are going to find the cheapest way to create their product (meaning less precious metal). Anyways get it while you can boys
Unfortunately, I see it this way as well. Right now I probably get 80% green boards in my e-waste. I can foresee this declining as we go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeinreco
Yes, there are still barns out there full of old 486 machines, but those are getting fewer and further between as well.
To quote Mike again, "Get it while you can".