In my town, this e-scrap company pays $0 for computers, peripherals, printers, etc. How do they compete with the buyers here and yards that pay at least shred for these items?
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In my town, this e-scrap company pays $0 for computers, peripherals, printers, etc. How do they compete with the buyers here and yards that pay at least shred for these items?
http://www.ecycleus.com/ecycleus/Home.html
If people don't know any better, someone will always take advantage. I say you take advantage and put up your own site offering $2 for PC's and charge $2 for TV's and the other stuff they won't take. Even post their ad showing what a value you are offering.
Probably the same way, that I get junk vehicles. You just get them as they come in.
Meaning, you wait for someone to call you and say that they just want it gone and no money in exchange.
Either that, or people have no idea there is STILL some value to the items!
With us just entering into the larger scale e recycling I have found businesses want a record of the downstream and they want you to take everything. That seems easy on the surface but it isint if you are running legit. Right now our problem is CRT. Our competition takes them no charge. For me that is a loosing deal. Even with the contents I dont have a good avenue for getting rid of them. We have 3 major streams that want to use our service but they are currently inder contract with one of the bigger companies. Just a waiting game now.
Personally I would be phoning up your competition and asking if they want all of the stuff you don't want. If they paid you a nominal dollar to do the deal your downstream for CRT's would then be to a subcontracted waste management company and your problem would be gone. If they can make money with CRT's why not let them make all the money they can as long as it helps you along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rio
It's all about joined up thinking.
they dont pay for a few reasons.
People are up in arms about "Toxins" and "recycling" tie that with marketing, the manpower, and many states now by law forcing electronics to be recycled you get a company like them. Unlike us we market that we pay and that is our "Nich" but that Nich we fill does not grant us the things that a company like themselves get. Government sub's, Huge public recycling drives.
But also those things cost money. I looked into doing a recycling drive and i was shocked at what it cost for an electronic drive.
1. I need to be R2 certified or the backed and staffed by a fully R2 certified recycler
2. The event needs to be planned at least 6 months prior to starting and submitted to NYS for approval
3. no more than 30 days prior to the event i must pay for a NYS inspector to inspect the site and procedures of the event so that i comply with all NYS laws
4. All equipment must be gone within 24 hours of the event
5. I must pay for a NYS inspector after the event
6. I am subject to surprise inspections during the event.
I wouldn't want to take advantage of people. It's not in my nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPete
Okay..... maybe I should put it this way and hopefully my intent will come across better:Quote:
Originally Posted by martyweil
If people don't know any better, someone will always take advantage. I SUGGEST you take advantage and put up your own site offering $2 for PC's and charge $2 for TV's and the other stuff they won't take. Even post their ad showing what a value you are offering.
I was not accusing you of doing something, rather I was suggesting you offer a small amout of money for the PC's. People will chose you over your "competition". That was my point.
Thanks, Pete. I didn't take offense. In fact, I agree with you, and, to a degree, I am pursuing the option you suggest. I've approach a yard in town that doesn't currently accept computers and offered to pay for any they get in from people who know better than to be ripped off by the e-recycler I mentioned in my initial post in this thread. The yard agreed to pass my name along to anyone who calls asking for cash for PCs. I think that's a win-win for everyone involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPete
That's because it's NY, one of the most over-regulated states in the U.S.Quote:
Originally Posted by drozenski
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I do something similar , I cut the cords on TV 's and take the rest to this big scrapper and takes the rest , I don't have the space but get 15 tv's a week dropped off soooo it works for both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne
Most of the time I get my scrap for free, this includes all electronics. If people are willing to give you something for free and you accept it, that's not taking advantage of them. I have two thrift stores that give me everything they can't sell, they are very happy that i take it off their hands free of charge. I'm not taking advantage of them I'm helping them out and their helping me out.
I get most of my electronics for free, but i pick it up also. there is a charge locally to dispose of electronics so our free pick up actually saves our clients money.
Donate what you would normally pay for the computers to a SPCA Cat welfare society?
In NH there is this law:
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If electronic equipment wastes (including CRTs) are collected from households or businesses, a
solid waste permit may be needed. If the activity is simply repairing and reselling or donating
electronic equipment, then no permit is necessary. If there is actual dismantling of the electronic
equipment for recycling or disposal, a solid waste facility permit is required.
The reason why I started doing this is because one of the large E-waste recyclers around the Northeast US is supposedly green and a leader on doing things correct yet they are selling scrap ewaste for gold recovery on Ebay.
HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSE TO KNOW WHERE AND HOW THE ITEMS ARE BEING REFINED FOR THE PM CONTENT?
and these guys are one of the top pushers for all the regulations in the US!
Cause no one is following up on them, or "called them out" so to speak. You can always "fudge" paperwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by bpatnoe
there are several companies that charge to pick up what many of you call scrap. those companies offer security of data and compliance with all applicable recycling laws. they are licensed, insured and bonded. those same companies offer those services to the public. normally at a nominal charge.
if you want to convince these companies to do business with you, then you are going to have to offer the same services.
the equipment is not free. the paperwork is unbelievable. we log every hard drive serial number that comes in under contract. we have to show every move we make with that drive until it is destroyed. all of the companies we use have to be certified/licensed for auditing purpose.
we guarantee complete destruction of all components and we agree to follow all applicable recycling laws. it is what those companies demand. so does some of the public.
like most of these companies we receive items that are not required to be destroyed. we accept those items thru a subsidiary company and all we have to do is follow applicable recycling laws. instead of contractual obligations. which means i could sell select items on ebay. tho i can not imagine why any recycling company would.
so, what are you offering. besides wanting to pick it all up for free. and then selling their hard drives back into the main stream.
business requirements really should be another stuck topic at the top of the page.
That's because it's NY, one of the most over-regulated states in the U.S. <<
would you prefer we go back to just dumping it in your water supply.
take a drive thru one of the mexican border dumps, (where we have dumped our hazardous and toxic waste for years), picture that dump in your home town, and see if you feel the same way.