Psc metals

So i like to use their facility but can't recommend them anymore.......Every time you go there deductions for the smallest thing (plastic etc).......I could understand but I strip off the majority of my plastic.......Was deducted over 700lbs of plastic for a trailer full of copiers all stripped down to almost bare metal.......Do they not realize how much 700lbs of ABS plastic would be..........So i did some math......If I turned in 2000lbs of shred per week for 52 weeks that is over 100 thousand pounds per year and over a ten year period over a million pounds.......Yes I will do that much as I scrap full time......Point being I guess PSC metals is to big to care and have lost millions of pounds over my lifetime

Ugh. How aggravating and unnecessary.

I thought all this stuff was shredded and they factored in for waste like plastic/wood etc....perhaps I'm not as educated as I thought

Funny thing is they are always about .50 cents less per 100/lb than anyone else....however they are the closest to my house/storage

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Originally Posted by mikeinreco

So i like to use their facility but can't recommend them anymore.......Every time you go there deductions for the smallest thing (plastic etc).......I could understand but I strip off the majority of my plastic.......Was deducted over 700lbs of plastic for a trailer full of copiers all stripped down to almost bare metal.......Do they not realize how much 700lbs of ABS plastic would be..........So i did some math......If I turned in 2000lbs of shred per week for 52 weeks that is over 100 thousand pounds per year and over a ten year period over a million pounds.......Yes I will do that much as I scrap full time......Point being I guess PSC metals is to big to care and have lost millions of pounds over my lifetime

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I have been hit with deductions before also. Best one was a deduction on dirty aluminum. Went right to the buyer and he said he would fix it on the next load.

I have a friend that does a lot of printers. He was hit with a 200 pound deduction. He went back to his shop and placed 200 pounds of ABS on his scale and took a photo. Sent it to the yard and asked if this was how much he had in his load.

So my question is this........The "fluff" that is left over after shredding fridges/printers etc is this not sold as well......I know they are not paying to bury it.........Any idea of the market on "fluff" right now.......I know automobiles create a lot of "fluff" when shredded I assumed this type of "fluff" from white goods was basically the same.....What about glass from say a glass top stove.......Where does that go?........Is it buried in a landfill?

https://www.scrapware.com/blog/after...ive-recycling/

https://autorecyclers.ca/2007/auto-f...ng-25-percent/

according to this glass ends up in landfills.........Interesting......I know all these margins are built in for a shredding operation (interesting)

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Originally Posted by mikeinreco

https://autorecyclers.ca/2007/auto-f...ng-25-percent/

according to this glass ends up in landfills.........Interesting......I know all these margins are built in for a shredding operation (interesting)

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Mike,

There is a fair amount that gets landfilled. Overseas was trying to recover the plastics a few years back, not sure what they are doing now. A lot will depend on the equipment a recycler has. I deal with a company in Connecticut that has the ability to recover down to dust. As technologies improve, more and more of the metals in the fluff are being recovered. This company posted an interesting video last week of bottom ash being processed. This is the non combustible, non ferrous remains from an incinerator.

I find it all very interesting as we move forward as cheap metals and plastic become more abundant

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Originally Posted by mikeinreco

I find it all very interesting as we move forward as cheap metals and plastic become more abundant

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYhciF63Rgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQbVevCmASc

The fluff market is primarily landfill or incinerator stock though inefficient shredders may sell it for metallic content. Separating post-shredder different plastic grades from heterogenous materials is impractical, bordering on impossible. Shred as a commodity assumes about 70% ferrous recovery if I recall correct but yards with different downstreams have different standards.

so what is consensus on these deductions? should they deduct or have the price factored in

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Originally Posted by mikeinreco

so what is consensus on these deductions? should they deduct or have the price factored in

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I know my experience is not that much, and I also dont deal in dumpsters/container services.... but I would assume the prices is the price and they shouldnt deduct....

I take a ton of **** to the yard in a trailer in shred and they never check nothing or deduct nothing.... what the difference between you putting this stuff in this dumpster and them taking it vs if you just loaded that same stuff up on a few trailer loads and brought it in yourself (in terms of pricing and deductions).

Im sure others will edu-ma-cate me on why places do deductions, but I would think as long as it is mostly metal, they should just give you the shred/regular price.

I agree either you take it or you don't all one price not some punk kid half my age with a tablet just guessing weights of plastic on a ****ing printer

Now get off my lawn!

A lot depends on the yard you are selling to and wether they shred themselves or sell to a shredder. Non shredder yards, I don't think I have ever gotten a deduction, except if I have dropped rims with tires still on them. These feeder yards are able to mix the good loads with the occasional bad loads and not get any great deductions when they bring to a shredder or they have already taking a deduction into account when setting there prices.

I have seen some shady $hit this past year at feeder yards and not just the scrappers, the yards also. Saw one mix in a whole pallet of wet gaylord boxes with their light iron. Another purposely digs into the dirt when loading light iron. Have seen them load more than once and also seen them fill the hole back in.

I have gotten deductions at the shredder yard and questioned them a couple times.

Yea I watched a guy dump over 300lbs of lithium batteries into shred dumpster at non shredder yard....they were not laptop batteries or I would have bought them