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I finally got an aluminum rim from an F150...sawzalled it down to get it off only to find out that the tire is basically glued onto the rim...I'm guessing bead sealer of some sort...is there any trick to getting this unstuck or is breakage the best I can do?
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Take it to the tire shop.
Heat, or angle grinder. Do it outside and have a bucket of water at the ready.
It's probably covered in some of the other threads.
When i need to do a tire repair i usually remove the valve from the valve stem and let the air out. Once it's flat i run over the rubber part of the tire with my truck to break the bead seal. From there, you just use a couple of crow bars to mimic the action you get with a tire changing machine. ( It can be a booger to do with trailer tires sometimes cause they're small & tight.)
It's probably not glue that's holding the bead. There are wire " steel belts " inside the rubber tire where the tire meets the rim. These cords stretch when you're inflating the tire to give you a really tight grip to the rim.
If you're cutting the tire off with an angle grinder or a sawzall you have to cut those cords to get the bead to release ... if that makes any sense ?
Kind of a smokey, stinky, messy job but sometimes that's the only way to get a shredded up tire off the rim.
ETA: You can burn it off by tossing the whole works into a brush pile and setting it ablaze.
The Environmental Protection Agency frowns on that kind thing but it does do a bang up job. ;)
Bead sealer is usually made up of soapy water. It might be some kind of fixaflat. If time is money, I would take the tire to your local tire shop. If its aluminum and you want to use it for your truck, I would make sure the tire shop has a tire machine that latches from the inside of the rim and not the top. That way the bar doesn't damage the rim. Shouldn't cost you more than a couple of bucks.
P.s. That is if the bead is still intact. If not then this message will self destruct in 30 seconds....
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Log splitter works great if u dotn care about the tire and rim....just be careful of alu. Alu shatters...the steel rims bend in a v. The 3 point tire crushers they sell online are just modified log splitters with 2 extra rams to bend into a triangle. Can do same with log spitter...crush...flip 180...crush...flip 90....crush..done..rims fall off.
When short steel was higher did it all the time...cause I would still make money after paying the 1.00 tire disposal fee. For a while I dumped tires on rims..steel..off at Weitsman...they were paying 90 a gross ton in spring..now its less than 2c a lb. But still this year i ran over 80000 lbs of tires on steel rims and netted over 5 grand doing it in 3 weeks.
Would obviously been higher if i broke down, but no time. And i had to move them quick cause junkyard was in foreclosure......3000 lbs a trip with a rented u haul trailer. After expenses i netted about 2500-3000
bead sealer is liquid rubber. black and sticky. it can be a pain. or someone could have actually put rtv silicone or something on it to stop a rim leak.
either way, my tire machine will take them off no problem. if you don't have one, here's what I did before I got a machine.
get a few cans of spray lube. get a couple tire irons. spray the bead area and let it soak for a while then start prying...keep spraying. the petroleum in the lube will soften the sealer and it will eventually move.
the car bumper jack on the side wall supposedly works too if you've got one, slip it under a truck put the foot on the tire and jack the truck till the weight of it pops it loose...never tried it as it's easier to just do it by hand...
We use to call the soapy liquid that we would run around the rim Bead Sealer because it would seal the bead of a new tire we put on the rim. Maybe their are different types or that's just what they called it. My luck it was probable the later. lol
If it is bead sealer you can disolve it with WD-40 or the Walmart equivilant which is lots cheaper. If it's silicone good luck ever getting it cleaned off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozarksewaste