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Wondering if anyone has any experience scrapping one of these?
http://americanhistory.si.edu/vote/large/5_05_lrg.jpg
There is a bunch of them going to auction. Just curious to see if anyone knows what's inside?
I believe they are all mechanical so probably not of any interest to me, especially since I'd need to rent a truck to move them.
I believe there are several members in your area. maybe someone would team up with you out of curiosity
Actually I did over a 100 voting "stations" and they were from the 70's. Nothing electronic about the one we did, they were more like a portable folding "picnic" or camping table. Some steel, aluminum and paper/plastic, so little there, I quickly forgot about them.
The picture your showing is a "monster", from maybe the 50's, never seen anything like it. I could only imagine the confusion that caused, Florida had the "hanging chaff" voting fiasco. I'm wondering about how rare and short life of that "thing", was it actually used?
You mean from back when voting meant something. sry just couldn't help it. mcw
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Maybe you should get your hands on them Mike. Then you can secede and form your own country. Then you can run for Benevolent Overlord using your new machines...
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They look like they would make some nice shop cabinets and rolling work benches with a bit of modifications.
Really, bigburt, you never have seen or used one of those machines?? Our county mush have used them for over 20 years. My dad was blind so he actually needed someone to pull the right switch for him so I got to vote for president in 1972 when I was 10. First time I voted for myself (the day I turned 18) was in one of these machines. I think our county used them into the early 1990s if I remember. Now, we basically have #2 pencil and the sheet to fill the bubbles out in. I'm against electronic voting, too easy to insert a algorithm in that makes every x number of votes actually cast for Smith go to Jones. The people who can do these things usually aren't stupid enough to make a red district go blue (or vice versa) just got to tweak enough purple districts in swing states (such as FL or OH) to go the color they want.
The classic example, and it wasn't even using electronic voting but with paper ballots, was the first time Al Franken "won" the U.S. Senate in MN. The republican candidate ended up with a couple thousand vote lead (in a field of 3) before the re-count. Instead of just having a run-off election (MN didn't have a state law allowing run-offs I guess) they spent 2-3 months recounting ballots. All kinds of crazy s*** happened such as "forgotten" ballots showing up out car trunks and such. By the time it was done, there were precincts in Hennepin County that had more votes for Franken than had registered voters. Surprise, Franken ends up gaining 3-4 thousand votes and ended up 'winning". And the state supreme court upheld the whole farce.
Yeah, bring on the electronic voting machines, they can't be hacked!!!
No Rog. I never have, I have never missed a election neither. My first presidential election was 1976, I was young and eager to use my right to vote. We as a nation had been through plenty, Vietnam, Water Gate and we had a President that was in office and had never been elected to that office. I voted for the wrong man in 1976 and four years later I voted for the right man. The lesson I learned was to never vote the "party" again, as that was how I voted in my first election. I now vote on the person I think qualified period, but vote every time!
We lived in rural Arkansas, in the Ouichita Mountains, a couple of miles from the Oklahoma state line. A very rural place, many people still had no electrical power, indoor plumbing, or a telephone. There was no TV reception, newspaper delivery so keeping informed and voting took effort. We were from California and my parents were both college educated, professional people (rare in that rural area). We would set down at night and listen to the radio at night, tuning in AM stations from all over (Little Rock, Chicago, Dallas, Denver). My parents wanted us to learn the struggles of rural life, be educated and aware of the current events. They knew we would not stay on the "Mountain" our whole life, my dad wished we would have, but there was a world out there and we needed to know about it! No we didn't have electric voting then, nor in the military (absentee ballot). My first California election was 1986, that and every election since is a manual, pen ink, signed and personally sealed multi page ballot. The place I have voted for past 20 years is my community center, the turnout is always large, if you vote late in the day, you will be waiting about one hour to cast that vote.
No I have honestly never seen one of those and why it looked like a "monster" to me!
bigburt- The Ouachita Mts. Level III EPA ecoregion (there were 84 of these when my adventure in ecoregions started, now there are 85 Level IIIs as they split off coastal so. Cali in 2011 to form the 85th one), anyway, the Ouachitas had the most land cover/land use change by percentage between 1973 and 2000, almost 34% (estimated) of the area that experienced such change at least once during that time. I can't remember what the sampling margins of error were, something probably in the +/- 5-7% range. As you probably saw with your own eyes, they grow, cut, and grow again lots and lots of pine in the Ouachitas.
You might be interested in a book called Sawmill by a guy named Smith (can't remember the first name) that came out in 1986. It tells the story of the timber industry in the Ouachitas during the first 50 years of the 20th century. He claims that the Ouachitas were the last "virgin" forest cut in the eastern half of the U.S. starting around 1910. The dominant tree was short-leaf pine. Not as majestic as old-growth long-leaf and loblolly pine south and east of the Oauchitas but still very dense pine by our modern standards. Now much of the pine there is plantations of loblolly or loblolly/shortleaf. I haven't seen much of more recent imagery of the area but I'm sure they still grow and cut a lot of pine but perhaps the intensity has slackened a bit. Some of the areas we looked at in 100 sq. km blocks (about 6 x 6 miles) had overall change (forest getting cut or forest coming back from cutting) of nearly 80% in less than 30 years. That's putting the pedal to the metal. No red-cockaded woodpeckers in those parts...
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