"Whats that worth"

I get so many people "whats that worth, is that worth this is this worth that" asking me this like my dad, relatives, customers and I also ask myself the same thing. I also see it a lot on the forum. So I have been working for the last few months on breakdowns for my book I am making that will include hundreds of breakdowns including a breakdown of 20 different size tube televisions, detailed appliance, electronics, anything you can think of breakdowns. What wire is worth peeled and not peeled. So here is a sneak peak you could say that I have came up with in the last few months, and I hope to have a huge archive of break downs in a few years:


Tower style fan:

#2 insulated copper: 8.3oz
Copper Motor: 14.2oz
Low Grade: 2oz
Waste: 7lbs

Approx. Value stripped: $.35
Approx. Value shred: $.54

Conclusion: Cut cord and move on - If yard doesn't buy as shred don't accept them.


24" LCD Monitor

Steel: 11lbs
Low Grade: 11.3oz
Aluminum: 3.15oz
Copper Motor: 2.3oz
#2 insulated copper: 1.3oz
Waste: 3lbs

Approx. Value stripped: $2.62
Approx. Value shred: $.92

Conclusion: Strip on slow days, if busy sell as shred


TV/AM Clock Radio

Copper Motor: 1lb 15oz
Low Grade: 2lb 3.3oz
#2 Copper: 3oz
#2 insulated copper: 8oz
Steel: 6 oz
Al: 4.5oz
Waste: 5lbs

Approx. Value stripped: $1.21
Approx. Value shred: Contains vaccum tube, not an option

Conclusion: Follow same procedure you would on a tube television


Commercial Air Moving Blower

Steel: 8lbs 4.3oz
#2 insulated copper: 2lbs 4oz
Low Grade: 1.2oz
#2 copper: 2lb 10oz
Waste: 11lbs

Approx. Value stripped: $7.63
Approx. Value shred: $1.50

Conclusion: Strip down motor, and blower, at very least cut cord


Standard Celing Fan

#2 Copper: 11.50oz
Steel: 8lbs 3oz
Aluminum: 1lb 7.3oz
#2 insulated copper: 3.4
Waste: 2lbs 13oz

Approx Value stripped: $3.01
Approx Value shred: $.84

Strip it down if you will strip motor, if not shred for max profit


Wire:

8:3 Solid Core

Before Stripping: 1lb

#1 Copper: 12oz
Trash: 4oz

Value:
Stripped: $1.95
Sold as #1 Copper: $1.25


6:3 Braided Core

Before Stripping: 1lb

Bare Bright: 12oz
Trash: 4oz

Value:
Stripped: $2.06
Sold as #1 Copper $1.25




Copper content in motors:

Sizes recorded:

DIAMETER HEIGHT
5" 4" Commercial Blower
6" 4" A/C Unit
4" 4" Vaccum Cleaner
1.5" 3/4" Smaller Electronics
8" 4.5" Pump
6.5" 9" Pump
12" 3" Celing Fan
3" 3" Box Fan

Average #'s

#2 Copper: 4lbs 2.3oz
Shreddables: 9lbs 7oz

Average Strip Value: $10.06
Average CBM As-Is Value: $1.26



Tons more to come! This is just a portion of what I have, and I will post more!. Hope you can get some use out of it.

now I want to say thanks first off as above this will help a lot of people to start but the problems I see right away is these breakdowns are not fully listed for materials of value and full breakdowns. now I cant do some of this myself because of space but if your writing a book its important to show everything. a lot of use do full breakdowns to maximize profits on material like hard drives or even printers. also your listing waste but plastics, regular glass, lcd type flat screen glass has value now because of newer recycling methods that produce outgoing products for established markets.
these things may not be viable to all areas but people who live in or near major cities have the opportunity to make this extra money or for those who have the space to fill semi loads of items.
this is not to harp on you its meant to help you and all of us

First off thanks for your reply. I have a few over 50 breakdowns finished at the moment and the value of each metal is recorded as well as the types of byproducts ex: abs plastic, glass, paper. I will note what you said that it can be worth money in some places, in the actual breakdown booklet I am making I have price per item and have not yet decided if to include that because of fluctuating prices depending on location and buyer. I may take some different yards all around a few countries and average prices, tbd. Thanks for your feedback and considering value in the byproduct that many consider trash

Devin I love that you are doing this and making the data available on the forum. I think time is our best asset right. We just want to make a living and get home to the kids. Seeing your set up too with the buckets makes me wonder if I can do this from home. Problem is we rent and our bills just to feed house and family stuff does not leave enough on the table to work from home.

Oh but the buckets I loved. Good idea its refreshing to see someone start scrap with so much enthusiasm. Keep it up. I liked how your numbers show the waste. Sourcing for free I bet your numbers are right on it seems perfect. I was trying to apply them to my situation.

Here is my disclaimer you guys and gals my name is Aaron the scrap gods were kind to me for a long time but now Ive turned over a new leaf in my life all evil I did before has surfaced at one time. Im sick of my wife and kids getting **** luck in life for my crimes but now Ive given my life to God the timing leaves me broken, NO money, a business that's profitable and no capital to run it SO im stuck thinking do I go to the old cheating type ways to make big money to jump start a legal business that works or just let it all go way?? Thats my disclaimer for now my posts are all about me sorry you guys im in crisis and am very selfsish I need to meet the needs of my family.

Devin your data is helping me choices I love this forum. Please bear with my long rants and selfish talk Im really in a seems like a exposed position.

So not to tread on your thread but your data on the wire really opened my eyes. Taking your time does allow you to process more and if your waste isnt killing you wow you really can make more. I was ready to go this route and downsize my shop or lose it following some of your posts but I remembered shoot the waste in the case of any of your numbers If buying it, traditionally Im a buyer leaves a big issue for me and many. How does the waste number get figured in if you buy scrap.

Any waste that is not being sold now we would apply the purchase price per pound right. The wire for example because I have a nice amount of wire at my shop it was pound and 4 oz of waste so that like percent of my purchase price per pound Im throwing out so am I really making more by cleaning up stuff Im paying for.. I dont think so many be case by case. Devin you gave me a great idea. Im going to follow your lead and just open up on this forum too. Why not share the secretes we learned. You can teach a old dog new tricks. Evidence is I guess me getting saved. Teach me scrap forums Ill apply it and im sure all of us will. I just want to make more recycle and go home to my kids.

Good job devin you are earning you place here.. Hey can I keep my place here guys....please...
aaron

I would consider it an Honor to meet you next time I make it to Omaha.

Thanks for your reply. I am glad to have given some valuable information. I look forward to meeting you also olddude

Devin- Neat stuff. I think you also need to show an ave. price or whatever for the items you've listed. I know prices fluctuate but an average over time would work for the examples. Obviously you used some numbers to get your final values...

Yes I took some online prices and averaged if. I more then likely will not show prices just item count in the book because of fluctuation

how about a % of item like 80% plastic
19 % steel
.5 % copper barring
.5 % ins wire

Devin,

You are a methodical and patient guy! This information will do you well into the future.

I worked at a scrap yard for a while...we were trying to do the same for copper cable, but with photos and to come up with recovery information for a given cable size and type. It was pretty interesting but I doubt the deadhead at the top even comprehended what the foreman and I were doing....

I recorded the data by photo, and we were hoping to make it up into a binder. I took the photographs of the cable, then wrote the weights after stripping everything and weighing it, then photographed the numbers and final percentage recovery.

Maybe there is an idea or two in here you can use...


Jon.


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