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    Is Life turning out the way you planned?

    I was putting some thought into just WHY people were living the way that they were and believing what they believed to be fact and truth.



    I spend most of my time, about 95% or maybe even more these BU$Y daze by myself. I have always preferred my own company as I find it relaxing and comfortable most of the time. I don't like stress enough that I do my best to avoid such situations.

    One thing that I didn't like about the military is that I was forced to associate with people that I would rather not share the same space with. I have no interest in meeting most famous and popular people as I realize the illusion much like I realize that santa, the easter bunny and tooth farie are just simple illusions put upon children to program them with what their realities will most likely become.

    I find that I'm very different then most in what I believe and don't.

    I must be doing something right as I'm living my childhood dreams and so much beyond what I could conceive at the age of 4.

    So how are your lives going and what are the main problems keeping you from your childhood dreams? Or have you achieved them comfortable enough?

    Was your planning realistic and sound?

    Or did you mostly listen to others that were selling dreams on a bargain?

    You get what you invest in and pay for it seems.


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    It seems like at this point your trying to convince yourself

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    Convince myself of just what?

    That I'm mostly a happy camper?

    I AM that most defiantly.

    I have been having thoughts of WHY most others were not is my point.

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    I kept thinking of who master Jack was during the song and I kept thinking I would see this


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream View Post
    I was putting some thought into just WHY people were living the way that they were and believing what they believed to be fact and truth.

    I spend most of my time, about 95% or maybe even more these BU$Y daze by myself. I have always preferred my own company as I find it relaxing and comfortable most of the time. I don't like stress enough that I do my best to avoid such situations.

    One thing that I didn't like about the military is that I was forced to associate with people that I would rather not share the same space with. I have no interest in meeting most famous and popular people as I realize the illusion much like I realize that santa, the easter bunny and tooth farie are just simple illusions put upon children to program them with what their realities will most likely become.

    I find that I'm very different then most in what I believe and don't.

    I must be doing something right as I'm living my childhood dreams and so much beyond what I could conceive at the age of 4.

    So how are your lives going and what are the main problems keeping you from your childhood dreams? Or have you achieved them comfortable enough?

    Was your planning realistic and sound?

    Or did you mostly listen to others that were selling dreams on a bargain?

    You get what you invest in and pay for it seems.
    I think we all have that thing we were meant to do in life. Some folks call it your true will.

    Some people discover their true will at an early age like you did. Many others don't .... and just wander through life with no particular direction or purpose.

    You just seem like a Henry David Thoreau kind of guy to me. That's why i mentioned his name to you a year or two ago. Figured you might pick up on it and discover a kindred spirit.

    He was kind of a hermit. Spent a lot of time living in his own head. Intelligent & philosophical. Maybe not all that good with other people. Generally critical of people & society with an air of superiority.

    It's a lonely life ... especially in the dead of winter.

    If i could offer a suggestion ? Try to get out more even if it does cause you social anxiety. Like it or hate it ... we all need social contact with others. It's just a basic human need like food & water.

    The internet is a poor substitute.

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    I believe some should read slower what ChildhoodDream has written over the years. To me he seems to be a very happy and content person, not some old hermit with long hair and nails pissing in mason jars....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimicrk View Post
    I believe some should read slower what ChildhoodDream has written over the years. To me he seems to be a very happy and content person, not some old hermit with long hair and nails pissing in mason jars....
    Maybe you just don't know what a hermit is. This is a solitary person who keeps to himself and prefers his own company. On the other end of the personality spectrum is someone who is a group oriented person that needs LOTS of social contact to be happy.

    Lol ... anyway ... i know my own kind dude.

    I also know that "no man is an island" even though i happen to live on one !

    That was my childhood dream. I've been drawn to this place for as long as i can remember.

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    Sometimes folks get hung up on words and word meanings. Precision in language is important. Here's an objective definition of the word hermit Jim.

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/hermit
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    The point of my post was there is no new info here....if he wants to let us into his life more open up and give more if not fine as well....the posts are all basically the same but I guess it's nice some people are still posting.....I myself am not living my childhood dream....who in their right mind dreamed of hauling scrap and breaking down ewaste as a living....I am fairly content as I know what the bottom of the barrel looks like....my story is also documented here and at 13 years sober and being a free man I'm satisfied with my lot in life but I am not ready to pack it in yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream;321974[B
    ]I was putting some thought into just WHY people were living the way that they were and believing what they believed to be fact and truth.[/B]

    Hills: There really is no absolute truth CD. It's largely subjective.

    For example: Let's say that someone was suffering from a mental illness with delusional features. Let's say they believed that rocks were talking to them. You and i might say that this simply is not true. I'll tell ya though ... it's very real to the person that hears the rocks talking.

    Lol ... who knows ... maybe rocks do talk and the rest of us just can't hear them.




    One thing that I didn't like about the military is that I was forced to associate with people that I would rather not share the same space with. I have no interest in meeting most famous and popular people as I realize the illusion much like I realize that santa, the easter bunny and tooth farie are just simple illusions put upon children to program them with what their realities will most likely become.

    LMAO ... you went into the military ... i went to High School. That really sucked. Too bad for us.

    Now ... you and i both know that we all put our pants on one leg at a time. All those famous & popular people are just people in extraordinary situations. Many are flawed just like all the rest of us. Some famous folks are very flawed. It must suck to have all your dirty laundry hung out in the tabloids. Eventually it all evens out. Death comes to the greatest and the least of us eventually. We're all equal in that regard.

    As for hero worship ? Some folks are leaders and some folks followers. There's nothing wrong with being a devoted follower if that is your true will. We're not all cut out to be doing the same thing ... you see ?


    I find that I'm very different then most in what I believe and don't.

    Well yeah ... you march to the beat of your own drummer. There's nothing special about that. There are plenty of folks just like yourself.


    I must be doing something right as I'm living my childhood dreams and so much beyond what I could conceive at the age of 4.

    I dunno man ... it just seems like you just decided to sit this one out. Not seeing much in the way of personal growth & development over the years.Can't help but wonder if something terrible might have happened to you between birth and age 4. (You might not even remember it.) Were you adopted ? What was your mother like ? The early years are when your personality is formed.

    So how are your lives going and what are the main problems keeping you from your childhood dreams? Or have you achieved them comfortable enough?

    Me ... ahh ... i've pretty much achieved everything that i was instinctively drawn to. I'm well enough satisfied with very few regrets. Now it's on to the next stage in life. What fun ... there are all these new personal challenges to contend with.

    Was your planning realistic and sound?

    I didn't plan. I just put my faith is spirit and blindly hopped into the wild & tumultuous river of life. It's been a helluva ride with all kinds of unexpected twists & turns. I do my best when running full out with a pack of hungry wolves nipping at my heels. Complacency = death.

    Or did you mostly listen to others that were selling dreams on a bargain?

    Well ... we're getting back to the leaders vs. followers thing again. Most folks are followers by nature. This is their true will. They need to be told where to go and what to do. There's absolutely nothing right or wrong about this.

    See ... i think this really is more your problem. You look down on people like that. You seem to think there's something wrong with them because they aren't like you. That's pretty self involved. Of course ... children are completely self involved. They're off in their own little world most of the time. Eventually ... they grow beyond that and they learn to love. At first ... it's a selfish and possessive love. It evolves to a love where the other person is just as important to you as you are to yourself. From there ... it grows to a love where the other person ( your child ) is more important to you than yourself. At out fullest human potential ... we evolve to achieve a state of love without limit. Some folks call this a state of self actualization.


    You get what you invest in and pay for it seems.

    My dad always used to say that you only get out ... what you put into a thing.

    If you're selfish and don't put anything out ... nothing of any value ever returns to you.

    I think he was right on this.

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    You folks are trying to figure me out by seeking boxes that might fit me.

    That won't work as I don't fit in any man made boxes.

    I have a very large collection of dictionaries that I would look through and see what changed and what didn't.

    I found that there are NO definite meanings for words as the world as we know it is designed to be vague. Gives the "leaders" and rulers plenty of room to make things up.

    I learned many years ago that it wasn't that I couldn't explain myself clearly, it was that people just didn't want to know the TRUE answers.

    There IS a truth that shines the light on what is not truth. You just have to understand just what truth is in the bigger picture.

    It's a very vague world and it can be tough letting go of the superstitions and rituals that bind the minds.

    I spend most of my time with myself as I'm never alone. I view the world as a place with many lonely people looking for themselves elsewhere.

    A backwards world filled with backwards thinking people.

    Most are not interested in my opinions as it makes them think harder then they are comfortable with.

    I like making others think outside the box in that there is no box as it's mostly a grand illusion.

    The problem we have here is that it is not I that you must have a better understanding of.

    It's yourself that you need a better understanding of.

    I do not view myself as being better then others. I even view a dog as it's own person.

    ANGER is what keeps most back. Who or what can we have a hate for and believe we are better.

    I have a hate of hate simply put.

    Anger is something I have little time for as it gets in the way of my happiness.

    I'm very analytical in my thinking processes. I think about things that most others are not interested in as it makes their head hurt, or as a friend told me years ago, "all I have is my dreams" when I was pointing out why his plans would not work out the way he planned.

    Another person told me that "normal people are not supposed to be happy".

    It sometimes bothers me when I look around at the people and see so much sorrow and anger.

    As for getting out more. WHY would I when there is so little for me "out there"?

    It's a bit like being in a foreign land and the chance of finding others that speak my language being very low.

    I find others to visit with when I go out. I only require a little bit of visiting with others when it's of quality.

    I don't visit with rocks and they have no interest in visiting with me, so far.....

    I'm just waiting for true spring to begin so I can get outside and go about my play/work and have a larger area to do my thinking.

    I will leave you with this.

    Are you a angry person that has a hatred for others that get in the way of your fantasy and fictions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream View Post

    As for getting out more. WHY would I when there is so little for me "out there"?

    It's a bit like being in a foreign land and the chance of finding others that speak my language being very low
    The reason you might want to get out more is it takes you out of your comfort zone. Being well outside of your comfort zone is where most of your personal growth happens. Who knows ... you might even learn to speak a foreign language and have an adventure of some kind.

    Probably not your idea of fun but it helps keep you grounded. Solitaries tend to drift off into their own reality bubble if they spend too much time alone. They can get lost in their own head and run into mental health problems.

    It's one thing to pee in the Mason jar. It's something else to actually drink it. Jack Daniels would be a better choice.
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    I tend to agree with hills on this one (rare I know).....when confronted with uncomfortable situations I usually just go thru with them and usually end up being better for the experience......not sure what else to add here but literally no one is putting anyone in a box or even trying to.....I think we have learned what we can from childhood and without much new info or him opening up he will always just be an enigma here on the scrap metal forum

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    I'm NOT uncomfortable. It is YOU that are uncomfortable with me.

    That is the Truth of the matter if weighed and measured with honest scales and "rulers".

    I have a GREAT understanding of myself. It's others that I'm trying to understand.

    A bit like trying to understand creatures from another realm.

    Your superstations and rituals are blinding you from seeing and understanding the real and true me.

    I can see you and have a basic understanding of you, but I haven't much of a clue as to WHY you choose what you choose on a more deep thinking level.

    I'm wondering just WHAT makes you tick simply put.

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    Here is what I'm doing at the moment. I watching eBay auctions that are ending and have a very small older kitten that's not very smart bugging me as I write this.
    I have a smile on my face as I'm tuned up and thinking about what I might have for dinner.

    Not much else as I'm comfortable even knowing what might be going on in the busy world out there that's MOSTLY a illusion of truth and reality minus the superstition and rituals and what they might breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream View Post
    I'm NOT uncomfortable. It is YOU that are uncomfortable with me.

    That is the Truth of the matter if weighed and measured with honest scales and "rulers".

    I have a GREAT understanding of myself. It's others that I'm trying to understand.

    A bit like trying to understand creatures from another realm.

    Your superstations and rituals are blinding you from seeing and understanding the real and true me.

    I can see you and have a basic understanding of you, but I haven't much of a clue as to WHY you choose what you choose on a more deep thinking level.

    I'm wondering just WHAT makes you tick simply put.
    Me ... i'm just a student of human nature. Always have been. I'm kind of a solitary. I do my best work alone ... not really a team player. I'm fairly good at most anything i choose to set my hand to. I'm currently working with people in service to my community. It seems like an honorable way to finish out the remainder of my adult working life ... even though the job is a rather humble one.

    You know ... you work with people long enough ... you develop the ability to size them up pretty quickly. Behavior patterns repeat and people generally fall into different categories. There are times when i'm working with hundreds of people a day. There's nothing new under the sun. None of us are really all that unique although our delusions may have us convinced otherwise.

    I take it that people are kind of a mystery for you. It's not so easy for you to relate to others ... so you prefer to keep to yourself ?

    It would be all good and well except for the fact that you get kinda lonely sometimes ? I can see how that could be a problem for someone.

    Think about it. What's one of the worst punishments in prison ?

    They ship you off to solitary confinement and deprive you of the company of others.

    It really is true ... no man is an island.

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    Okay ... now you said that " it's a bit like trying to understand creatures from another realm."

    Have you ever had any cognitive testing done ?

    Let's say a fulla was deaf and you tried to describe the sound of music to him. He might be blind and you try to convince him that the sky is the color of blue. In either case ... the fulla just wouldn't be able to relate because the sound of music and the color of blue don't exist for him. It's a cognitive issue.

    I've got a friend of over 40 years. Lol ... people have called him ass**** for as long as i've known him and probably long before. He's a great mechanic but he's not very good with people. It's quite possibly due to a high functioning form of autism called Asperger's Syndrome. He's completely lacking in the quality of empathy.

    About 80 - 90% of human communication in real life social situations actually takes place on a non-verbal level. We read the cues on a subconscious level. I can certainly see why it would seem like a foreign language if you are deaf -or - blind to the cues. It might be a cognitive thing ... ya know ?

    It's no big deal really. Especially if you are relatively happy in your solitary life.

    Just food for thought if you are trying to unravel the mystery of why people do what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream View Post

    Not much else as I'm comfortable even knowing what might be going on in the busy world out there that's MOSTLY a illusion of truth and reality minus the superstition and rituals and what they might breed.
    Okay ... now ... this part is interesting. You frequently talk about rituals. You served in the military so you know that precision in speech is important.

    Quote CD: I have a very large collection of dictionaries that I would look through and see what changed and what didn't.

    Well i kinda doubt that you have a very large collection of dictionaries but no matter.

    It's easy enough to pull a definition of the word off the internet.

    Ritual: a religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order.

    Okay .. so .. have you ever heard of ritual being referred to as a practice of the craft ? (Some also refer to it as the craft of the wise.)

    Do you actually know what a practice of the craft is ? ( You probably won't find it in the dictionary or even in a wiki article. ) That's one of the mysteries of many of the world's faiths & traditions.

    If you really don't know ... how can you possibly presume to judge it ?

    This is all just philosophical stuff. It might be intellectually stimulating and provide you with some of that human contact that you need.

    To misquote Shakespeare:

    " Perhaps there are more things in heaven and earth than are ever dreampt of in your phiolosopy Horatio."




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    I have a great understanding of WHAT many people do. It's the WHY do they choose to do it is my question.

    Why do most seem to love their fantasy and fictions over truth and reality?

    That is what I have found, not much talk in that area. People just tell me that they like their fantasy and fiction and that's that.

    Asking me about tests and such is just blowing smoke. There is nothing wrong with my mind and thinking beyond it not being popular with those in denial of what they are confused by.

    I have watched people trying to confuse others more so then their own confusion believing that is the way to WIN the argument or discussion.

    You are trying to place blame in my direction as you don't want to look at yourself as maybe being the problem.

    Superstition and rituals are very popular in many forms.

    Then there is the fantasy and fiction that is very popular.

    Most don't want to talk about the problems that those areas of popular demand might cause.

    We just as well quit while were ahead as I know that is the way it works.

    Get to know yourselves better. Then you have a chance of understanding others better.

    I'm always learning new things about myself and others.

    It's the DEEP thought on the details of WHY most choose to believe what they choose to believe.

    It's a vague world mostly because you can believe whatever you choose and try and make fantasy and fictional realities seem real, or at least possible.

    and in the future they lived happily ever after.

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    I think we covered this before CD but let's give it one last try. There's the internal reality. That's the reality of the world going on between your ears as you perceive it to be. There's the external reality of the world around you. You might call that the external construct or reality.

    As long as your internal reality and the reality of the world around you are relatively in synch .... you should be fairly functional.

    If the two realities start to distance themselves ... you become progressively more dysfunctional. It makes it very difficult to do things like hold a job and maintain interpersonal relationships. You miss out on a lot of the good things that life can potentially offer like friends, a devoted wife, a family, and a challenging & rewarding work experience. The sex is good too !

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    Look ... i'm experienced enough to know that you can't talk people out of their crazy. That's most especially so when they cop an attitude and declare that it couldn't possibly be MY problem. It's the world that's messed up. ( That's a defense mechanism called denial. )

    The main reason i suggested cognitive testing is because it's based in science. Science is all about careful step by step reasoned thinking and verification of repeatable phenomena.

    I'll tell ya man ... science isn't perfect but it's about as close as you'll ever come to the objective truth of a thing.

    From what i understand ... you were a vet that was honorably discharged. You're eligible for Veteran's benefits ? I know that your are relatively happy with your life just the way it is but you could use a little help with the social aspect of things ? They might be able to help you out with that ... ya know ?

    It's really up to you ... it's your life to live as you see fit as long as you're not bothering anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream View Post

    I'm always learning new things about myself and others.

    It's the DEEP thought on the details of WHY most choose to believe what they choose to believe.
    It's kind of a fun conversation. Sort of bordering on the spiritual, religious, and philosophical aspect of life. Not really appropriate for this forum ... but ... since you asked ?

    It's one thing to talk the talk. It's another thing to walk the walk.

    If you're really serious about going into the DEEP thought of WHY most people believe what they choose to believe ... i would suggest the Black Iron Prison written by Phillip K. Richards. That should be right on point if you can wrap your head around it. It's not for everyone though. It was written in such a way that it's completely incomprehensible to two dimensional thinkers. ( Hilarious prank on them ... it's like a dog eating peanut butter !)

    If you've got plenty of time .... the writings of Carlos Castaneda are pretty good ... just don't take them literally. It's the concepts that are important and not the details of the events in his tales of being an apprentice to a teacher.

    You asked .... so i offered a doorway to a deeper understanding. It's entirely your choice as to whether or not you step through the portal.
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