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Taxes are not that bad so far as I have Homestead credits. Last year was $328.00 total. Less then my vehicle insurance for a year.

As for superstition it goes much deeper then what fanatic sports followers wear.

Religion is mostly superstition and rituals.

It's all about the "money" and if looked at and measured with research, we find that money is just a fancy I.O.U. that people including myself will take as CA$H as long as others will.

Illusions and false facades is what the world is constructed of. I can see well what's behind the facades and illusions as I'm not that interested in them.

Rituals are very popular. Any that I follow, I do in fun and realize that I'm playing make believe and pretend and acting silly.

I have learned that most haven't a clue to how I Live and what makes me tick. I'm very aware that I can make people uncomfortable with who I AM.

I find that most humans are not interested in growing up beyond age and size. Overgrown toddlers with loaded weapons.

and always measure twice and cut once...

Originally Posted by ChildhoodDream

Taxes are not that bad so far as I have Homestead credits. Last year was $328.00 total. Less then my vehicle insurance for a year.

As for superstition it goes much deeper then what fanatic sports followers wear.

Religion is mostly superstition and rituals.

It's all about the "money" and if looked at and measured with research, we find that money is just a fancy I.O.U. that people including myself will take as CA$H as long as others will.

Illusions and false facades is what the world is constructed of. I can see well what's behind the facades and illusions as I'm not that interested in them.

Rituals are very popular. Any that I follow, I do in fun and realize that I'm playing make believe and pretend and acting silly.

I have learned that most haven't a clue to how I Live and what makes me tick. I'm very aware that I can make people uncomfortable with who I AM.

I find that most humans are not interested in growing up beyond age and size. Overgrown toddlers with loaded weapons.

Well ... as you said " There's nothing new under the sun ."

You have to be careful with the holy scriptures though because they can read different ways depending upon your level of understanding. Someone with little or no understanding takes it at face value. An intermediate would interpret it another way and a person of advanced learning might interpret as meaning something entirely different. That's why they have bible study ... so that the Christians can gain a deeper understanding of their faith.

Anyhow ... opinions very. My opinion ... though probably not very well informed ... is that " Nothing new under the sun " was more likely a commentary on human nature. Times change ... great empires rise and fall ... yet basic human nature has changed very little over the past 4,000 years or so of recorded history.

You read the ancient religious texts from places like China, India, South America, the Middle East, and Europe ... and the authors of those books reveal volumes about themselves if you have a basic understanding of human nature. It just takes the quality of human empathy. There are different personality types that repeat through history. Not entirely unlike the 13 different Cylon models from Battlestar Galactica if you're into Sci fi.

Anyhow ..there's nothing like settling in with a hot cup of coffee and a good book next to the woodstove in a cold winter's day. You might like the writings of Henry David Thoreau. He was a man very much like yourself.

In fact ... the resemblance is almost uncanny.

Originally Posted by mikeinreco

At this point I feel like you are trying to make us uncomfortable with who you are.........Honestly no one really cares or if they do they are probably very close friends/family........I can count on two hands the people that would show up at my funeral and I'm good with that.......We get it you like to live this life and in a way I envy you but also pity you at the same time........Either way everything you say could be some fantasy and you are posting this from a mental hospital......There is very little record of you existing on this forum.....No pics/personal info or interactions with any other members that I know of......People need something to believe in and religion/superstition gives them that.........Personally its all entertainment to me and none of it to be taken to seriously

I find what you wrote interesting as I can understand why you might feel that way. I'm just VERY different from the norm, always have been. I know that I can make people feel uncomfortable with who I am in what ever form of reality they may perceive.

I understand that most people require something to believe in for what they don't understand. I myself require none of that at this time in my Life. I kept searching until I had a clearer understanding.

I see it as we are little clay pots full of thoughts. Most are trying to find a means or ways to leave that clay pot as they don't much like who they are. We must embrace what we don't understand in order to have a better understanding over fear so that we may learn more and have a clearer understanding of those monsters under the bed and such.

I have had problems with people in the past not understanding what the concept of love is as they thought that I was in love with myself and not others. If you can't love yourself how can you love others? If you can't understand yourself, how can you understand others?

I know myself very well and learn more as TIME passes.

This world is moving at a far faster speed then most can deal with and that causes undue stress. I myself try and avoid stress by having a better understanding of what stresses me and why it stresses me. We as humans like to try and Live on the edge as that makes us feel alive. It's all in the ways we choose to try and achieve this.

I have never been a big fan of fantasy and fiction as it mostly bores me. I have always wanted to know what the Truth was and what it wasn't.

I have learned that fantasy and fiction is what most people are constructed of. How we control this is the problem.

Monkey see, monkey do is very true.

I remember the 1960's with the hiding under you school desk. I found it odd at the time as it DIDN'T add up. But it was the "reality" of the day.

I have never been a child by choice. I was just smaller and younger then most of those I visited with. I was thinking the way of quantum science when very young and it took the rest of the world many years to catch up with me it seems.

Life is what we make it,
Most just try and fake it...

Originally Posted by hills

Well ... as you said " There's nothing new under the sun ."

You have to be careful with the holy scriptures though because they can read different ways depending upon your level of understanding. Someone with little or no understanding takes it at face value. An intermediate would interpret it another way and a person of advanced learning might interpret as meaning something entirely different. That's why they have bible study ... so that the Christians can gain a deeper understanding of their faith.

Anyhow ... opinions very. My opinion ... though probably not very well informed ... is that " Nothing new under the sun " was more likely a commentary on human nature. Times change ... great empires rise and fall ... yet basic human nature has changed very little over the past 4,000 years or so of recorded history.

You read the ancient religious texts from places like China, India, South America, the Middle East, and Europe ... and the authors of those books reveal volumes about themselves if you have a basic understanding of human nature. It just takes the quality of human empathy. There are different personality types that repeat through history. Not entirely unlike the 13 different Cylon models from Battlestar Galactica if you're into Sci fi.

Anyhow ..there's nothing like settling in with a hot cup of coffee and a good book next to the woodstove in a cold winter's day. You might like the writings of Henry David Thoreau. He was a man very much like yourself.

In fact ... the resemblance is almost uncanny.

I have a very good understanding of the so called scriptures. The bible is just a collection of smaller books and writings that were put together in a way that makes them seem to be something EL$E.

I do find that the bible has a lot of interesting information when looked at from a neutral point.

The so called scientist is of many types. Some are useful and most are just trying to become a BIG shot, simply put.

I spent a few years reading and writing in a online group that was the religious vs the scientific. After a few years of reading what others wrote I saw through the illusions and facades of both sides very well.

What makes me so different from most others is that I don't try and fit in a man made box that doesn't fit me well. I don't require a list of man made choices to choose from as I make my own list and I AM my own god with a small g, I don't believe in a God with a BIG G in the ways that most others believe.

BUT there is a little Truth in most things and there is a design to what we are and believe. Most seem to be going the wrong way in this backwards world.

I personally don't see much difference between dogs and people. Some are smarter then others.

I dunno ... i'm about 45 years in on my current path of learning. It's certainly not what one would called an organized religion. One might call it an eclectic mix but even that's a poor descriptor. I just performed the Kabbalistic rite at age 16 and then placed my trust in spirit to bring me along as it would. I suppose my path is my own. It certainly has been a learning experience full of all kinds of surprises along the way. Some fun and others not so pleasant... but it was all a part of the learning.

Here it is ... all this time gone by and it feels as though i've barely scratched the surface of what there is that could be learned.

I wouldn't recommend being too cynical about religion. Pick any particular religion and it's just an organized way teaching a subject. Not all that different from teaching math. You start with the basics and get into more complex and advanced concepts as you move forward in your learning. Most folks start with basic math and that's really all they need. Others go on to college to earn an advanced degree in the subject.

I find it interesting that you participated in an on line group that was postulated as religion versus science and then came away with certain opinions.

The two things ... religions and science are very much one in the same you see. Human nature hasn't changed. It's still very much the religion of science.

"religions and science are very much one in the same"

about as different as beer and wine. Just a different buzz for different folks.

I don't require a "religion" as I prefer taking the responsibility on to myself.

That is why I never married or had children. I wasn't interested in the REAL responsibility that was involved from what I perceived and understood at a very young age. I have always been a people watcher. I was interested in what made others tic as I noticed at a very young age that most seemed to like their escapes into fantasy and fiction so much more then what may be a real truth and fact.

I have never had credit cards as I could see where that truck full of beer could end.

I have never had a cell phone or mobile device as I never required or wanted one.

I have a landline that hardly ever "RINGS" as I don't receive many calls. I also don't make many calls. It's more of a luxury as is the internet. Things that I find make my Life more comfortable. I put rings above the way I did as I have a phone that has a ringer bell as I don't like the chirping ones and such. I prefer old school, but I do use a push button type.

It seems that most people are sheep and I'm not.

I dunno ... i'm reminded of something one of the elders in the community once said. He said that you can tell a lot about the character of a man from the nature of his wood pile. Your writings here are your wood pile CD.
They tell a lot about the kind of man you are.

You're pretty self involved and tend to make a lot of grandiose statements in condemnation of humanity in general. You definitely consider yourself to be a cut above the rest of the world. A superior human yet you seem to live in your own little world. Dealing with others in your day to day life causes more stress than you can bear.

I was just wondering ... have you had any psychological testing done in the past ? Maybe some cognitive testing done ? It's no big deal as long as you are relatively happy in your life and you're not a threat to yourself to others.

On the other hand ... you don't seem to do very well with other people and long term human relationships would be nearly impossible for you to manage. It was never in the cards for you to be a husband or a father. There's really no room in your life for anyone besides yourself. That could be a very lonely place to be in the dead of winter. Most humans are social creatures by nature. None of us are an island unto ourselves ... even a solitary such as yourself. The companionship of others is just a basic human need. It's every bit as vital to our well being as food, water, and sufficient rest.

The internet is a poor substitute for genuine human companionship.

The testing and a psych evaluation might help you figure out why some things are so difficult for you. Asperger's Syndrome is a very real thing. It certainly doesn't make you a bad person and it doesn't make you any less intelligent. It's just a condition that some people are born with.

Anyway ... this is the internet and i'm just a guy on the far end of cyberspace with no qualifications or degrees whatsoever. Take it with a BIG grain of salt but please do try to keep an open mind.

Let's just say you are Waaaaayyy off base with what you believe about me. You are just having trouble putting me in a box that makes you comfortable.

I'm very aware of your opinions about me as I have heard it all before in great detail after dealing with others on that site I mentioned.

I understand what you are saying as I have experience with this. You are uncomfortable as you can't understand me.

Years back they would put those such as me into asylums and state hospitals as it is a fine line between genus and insanity.

I don't put much into the I.Q. testing and it's results overall. But I have been tested on since I was young and it seems that I have a higher then average I.Q.

So I'm more like Albert Einstein then Forest Gump.

I'm eccentric by choice and design.

You seem to act a bit like a alcoholic that can't believe that all others are not interested in the drink as much as they are.

No credit cards, no cell or mobile device.

No wife or children as I preferred the Indiana Jones type of life and not the Al Bundy married with children.

I still notice that not many families are really a family.

RESPONSIBITY is the difference between you and I. I prefer to take on my own and not require Gods and such to take on the responsibility for my choices and beliefs.

It is society that can't handle me as I'm a bit to Real. Or maybe I'm the monster under the bed?

Ahh well ... it was just a suggestion.

BTW ... wasn't trying to sell you on religion. I was simply pointing out that your knowledge in this particular area isn't very extensive. We're all just learners but some of us are a bit further along than others.

My experience has been that the more i learn ... the less i really know. If i ever reach the end ... i may come to realize that i really don't know anything at all.

Originally Posted by hills

Ahh well ... it was just a suggestion.

BTW ... wasn't trying to sell you on religion. I was simply pointing out that your knowledge in this particular area isn't very extensive. We're all just learners but some of us are a bit further along than others.

My experience has been that the more i learn ... the less i really know. If i ever reach the end ... i may come to realize that i really don't know anything at all.

"My experience has been that the more i learn ... the less i really know. If i ever reach the end ... i may come to realize that i really don't know anything at all."

I agree with that statement. as you never get caught up.

It's the superstition that blinds people. I figured that out years back and I'm always on the look out for deceptions and lies called good as they never end well in the end.

This world is mostly backwards with what people believe they want and how they go about trying to achieve it. Denial is very popular as a means of trying to escape what we can't or won't face about ourselves and others.

From watching many different types of animals over the years and observing their behavior. I really don't see much difference beyond that humans are the real cockroaches and rats of this earth.

Interesting discussions for some but they're not socially appropriate for this place. There are no mods and the admin is only in from time to time. It's pretty much on us to exercise good judgement and try to govern actions accordingly. kinda seems as though we're pushing the further limits of the forum guidelines.

I feel it's best that i should politely excuse myself from this conversation.

Welcome to my world...