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    Posted this image to give you a idea of how the oil separator works, I hoping the reflux column will eliminate the need.





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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    This guy just produced 200 milliliters of oil, love his still set up and it appears to be all home made.

    OK, 200 mil of oil don't sound like much but when you do the math, 5 mil of fir oil sells for $12.99 that 200 mil gave him 40 bottles when sold gives him a whopping return of $519.00

    With my 30 gallon still I'm anticipating 50 mil of oil per run ( $129.00 ) if and when I find it profitable can expand the size of my still and use the refux on a new still.

    No more scraping for me just sit back and drink beer while keeping an eye on the still as it produces money for more beer.

    Here's a link to the background on this still build, recycled materials.

    https://blueridgearomatics.com/about/distilling/

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    Interesting commentary from the builder,


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    I've some to the conclusion that the reflux is not necessary for the oil distillation unit and would only be of benefit for alcohol production.

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    Advancing forward with the build.

    The most difficult to do, tapping the treads into that large stainless steel ring. For every 1/4 turn of the tap you have to back the tap up to break the chips loose.





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    The cooling condenser is made from stainless steel, if I can find Rob's copper stash at the farm he had some nice copper tubing left over from when they installed the wood fired boiler that heats Colin's house and the shop.

    Copper transfers heat much better than stainless so that condenser just might be switched to copper.

    The guys at the colony that laser cut the top pieces have become interested in volatile oils, asking a lot of questions. They would like to process herbs. Oils are easier to store and have a very long shelf life in addition take up less storage space.

    I think the genie is out of the bottle, now the guy that is going to do the tig welding for me wants to build a still but not for oil distillation.

    My project is on hold until my Tri-Clamp accessories arrive.

    From the image below have ordered the 90 degree elbow, clamps, ferules gaskets along with a few blanks, the tri clamps make disassembly a snap, short pieces easier to clean.

    Also using the Tri Clamps system I'll be able to modify the still, for instance I have two different columns that will bolt onto the top of the still but only one condenser.

    One column will be used for oil production while the other packed reflux, ya never know. Switching the plumbing from one column to another with a few twists on a thumb screw on the clamp.

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    Wow that was quick, placed my order late this evening and they replied already, no credit card and no paypal. I'm finding that a lot of vendors will now accept an e-transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondN View Post
    I like your thinking...
    With a rig like this probably have spirits a bit stronger than a barley sandwich to sooth the pain from a hard days work in the woods collecting cedar boughs..

    Only thing is I don't drink any alcohol and I've been drug free for over thirty years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    Wow that was quick, placed my order late this evening and they replied already, no credit card and no paypal. I'm finding that a lot of vendors will now accept an e-transfer.
    Torontobrewing.ca accepted my e-transfer and are now processing my order for shipment via Canada Post, great guys to do business with. Those Tri-Clamp accessories will give my still a professional look.

    For those of you looking to build a still this link shows the full list of Tri-Clamp fittings and clamps. The stainless tubeing I'm working with has an OD of two inches, 1.5 is also commonly used.

    The reason for the two inch was only because the dairy supply had a few short pieces and did not want to purchase a full length 20 foot of stainless steel pipe, big bucks. Even with the shorts will have some surplus left over.

    https://sanitaryfittings.us/product-...clamp-fittings

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    Shipped this afternoon so work on the still will resume very soon.

    Product image Description Quantity Price



    Triclamp - Stainless Steel Tri-Clamp Fitting - 2" Ferrule 1 $9.99

    Triclamp - Stainless Steel Tri-Clamp Fitting - 2" Cap 2 $10.58
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    I've some to the conclusion that the reflux is not necessary for the oil distillation unit and would only be of benefit for alcohol production.
    Thats where i was thinking having it run under a vacuum could help. Just alcohol production & knowing that it would bring the boiling point of the alcohol in the mix down to speed up the process.

    I use a recycled fridge compressor for a vacuum, or a little single piston pump from a hospital, circa 1960's i think, Made in England & with black crackle paint finish on it. 'Humoductor' ( sp?)

    A nice oil free vacuum setup is a Aspirator, using a waterpump ( ex spa pump )& tank of cold water
    https://hackaday.com/2016/09/04/chea...ous-chemicals/

    Though all thats just for alcohol production & not for extracting essential oils.
    I have a little air cooled still for cleaning the 'Purple Methylated spirits that we can buy here, its then good for hygienic cleaning in a spray bottle, no funny smell or lingering bitter taste.
    And fir making my own distilled water for car cooling antifreeze mix. I dont drink alcohol, i never had a problem with it, i just dont see the point of it & i like driving my car legally.

    The only other thing I could add, scientific like, is a 'Soxlet extractor'. Also probably not much use.
    It extracts everything from the plant matter, waxes & all. I have a couple of glass ones. The extraction then needs to be redistilled & only certain 'cuts' ( boiling points ) retained. A whole different setup involved.

    I like your setup, professional & clean.

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    Once you know the boiling temperature of any given liquid at atmospheric pressure at sea level this handy chart converts those temperatures needed at higher elevations or under vacuum distillation.

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    The still I'm building is meant to be used with traditional distilling methods there will be no vacuum distilling taking place which is more demanding of my energy and time.

    When I was doing refrigeration work used a vacuum pump to evacuate the system from any moisture present, water will boil off at room temperature.

    Your truck or car has a radiator cap designed to raise the pressure inside the cooling system thus raising the boiling temperature of the coolant. This prevents the vehicle form boiling over when traveling at higher elevations.

    For those living a higher elevations having difficulty boiling potatoes or rice using a pressure cooker would solve the problem.

    I myself do not use pressure cookers.

    I've spent to much time scraping my meals off the ceiling, I get distracted and forget to keep a eye on the cooker then hear an explosion from the kitchen. This has happened twice.

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    At Dawson City picking morel mushrooms, put the shrooms in a large black plastic bag with a hose taped inside the bag, hose connected to a vacuum port on my Van's intake manifold.

    Fast drying time without the sun bleaching the color out.

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    This will be my last post, from the pictures and such I'm sure that anyone thinking of building an oil distillation unit will be able to grasp the concept.

    I received this picture in the mail today, I enlarged the top of my still so cleaning out the trash would be easier but these guys went a step further. The steaming vessel is mounted on pivots, you can tip the trash out.

    Bottom image truck load of logging waste waiting to be processed, left hand side of still gear reducer to tilt the vessel.



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