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    I am probably going to buy a full size truck and camper. Reasonable price is a must, so I am loking at higher mileage/older trucks. I grew up in an era where American cars were a bit sketchy, and the distrust continues to this day. That said, I have had my confidence boosted on Ford F-150 (do they make an F-150 3/4 or 1 ton?) and Chevy/GMC by the sheer numbers of them out there. Dodge, not so much. I have seen too many K cars and Caravans that smoke like street side BBQ shacks, but there are a ton of them out there (and they are usually cheaper than Ford or Chevy).



    So, what are your thoughts on truck makers? What are your experiences? Any definite "buys" or definite "do not buys"? I am not interested in a dually or diesel.

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    For the most dependable combinations of performance and mileage my first recs are always the Toyota Tacoma and Dodge Ram. They've been at or near the top of most ratings every year going back 25 years it seems. Drive a Ram myself.

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    If your sticking to a gasser IMHO it doesnt really matter. a 3/4 ton ford is a f250 and a 1 ton is a f350. Personaly I would look for a F250 with a V8. Stay away from the V10 unless you want spark plugs popping out of the holes on ya.

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    If you don't do your work repairs, talk with your mechanic, what would he rather see in the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrapman1077 View Post
    If you don't do your work repairs, talk with your mechanic, what would he rather see in the shop.
    I agree. IMHO gm’s are easier to fix and “less complicated” than others. If you don’t do your own repairs, definitely refer to your mechanic. Parts prices also vary, another question to ask, so what’s cheaper to fix? Quirks also. Why do some brand trannies all Need repair at xxxxxx miles? Heavier duty trucks also require more fuel to operate, another consideration.

    Whichever way you go, it wont be a rot box like up here. I’m envious.

    In 2-3 years, I’ll be looking forward to buying a similar rig as you, southern of course. Road trip. Truck and camper, yea! Some of my scrap money is being saved for just this purpose now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrapman1077 View Post
    If you don't do your work repairs, talk with your mechanic, what would he rather see in the shop.
    THis could be dangerous. I think a better ? would be what does he see less in there.

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    I would say "Ram" but I will give you one "Don't" -Google "Tacoma broken frame".

    I know Tacoma isn't full size, but it's big brother Tundra/T100 has the same brand name. Before I heard about this recall - I really liked Taco's and Tundras but... no thanks. I'll stick with Ram/Dodge.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SKWrapper View Post
    I would say "Ram" but I will give you one "Don't" -Google "Tacoma broken frame".

    I know Tacoma isn't full size, but it's big brother Tundra/T100 has the same brand name. Before I heard about this recall - I really liked Taco's and Tundras but... no thanks. I'll stick with Ram/Dodge.


    I looked at the pictures that phrase pulled and they were all extended cab and crew cab. I have had my '01 since I bought it new in '01. 270k on it and runs like a sewing machine..... and I got free tires for life. About to get my eighth set of sneakers for her. Baby needs a new set of shoes! If every car failed after 17 years and 270K miles, we probably couldn't ask for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nces2 View Post
    I looked at the pictures that phrase pulled and they were all extended cab and crew cab. I have had my '01 since I bought it new in '01. 270k on it and runs like a sewing machine..... and I got free tires for life. About to get my eighth set of sneakers for her. Baby needs a new set of shoes! If every car failed after 17 years and 270K miles, we probably couldn't ask for more.
    Got my 2010 Tacoma brand new. This thing can take anything i throw at it. Never has failed me or let me down. Its been a scrap truck pretty much its whole time ive had it.

    I believe that the broken frame problem was a issue with there 90's models

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    Quote Originally Posted by greytruck View Post
    I believe that the broken frame problem was a issue with there 90's models
    Looks like those had the same problem too you are right.

    The ones I am talking about are 2005-2010. Toyota had to pay out ALOT for that mistake that they wouldn't admit to. I am not Toyota bashing, if anything I am bashing the entire vehicle industry cause they are all the same when it comes to stuff like that.

    https://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/14/...-truck-frames/

    My Dakota had recalls for suspension parts fixed before I bought it. Ram/Dodge has lots of recalls, Ford has tons of recalls as does Chevrolet/GMC. Nissan same thing. The good thing is that trucks are usually overbuilt and are designed to last much longer than a car.

    Buying a used (or even new) truck is a gamble no matter the brand I don't care what anyone says.

    Best advise I could give is to get a history of the vehicle you want like maybe CarFax and to have a professional look it over before purchase, that way the odds are more in your favor and you know what you are up against if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nces2 View Post
    I looked at the pictures that phrase pulled and they were all extended cab and crew cab. I have had my '01 since I bought it new in '01. 270k on it and runs like a sewing machine..... and I got free tires for life. About to get my eighth set of sneakers for her. Baby needs a new set of shoes! If every car failed after 17 years and 270K miles, we probably couldn't ask for more.
    I want to know the brand of sneakers your putting on the old girl so that I may avoid purchasing them, with 270K on the meter and your on your eight set of free tires your averaging 38 thousand a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proton View Post
    I want to know the brand of sneakers your putting on the old girl so that I may avoid purchasing them, with 270K on the meter and your on your eight set of free tires your averaging 38 thousand a pair.
    The ones on there now are Grand Prix Performance GT, but I don't think that is what they have put on every time. Kumho(?) rings a bell, but I don't know. Theoretically, softer tires give better grip, while harder tires last longer. I really don't care. They are putting them on for free.

    When I was delivering pizza and buying my own tires, I worked out what seemed to be the best strategy for tire maintenance. Auto shops want to rotate the tires front to back every so often. This will wear out all tires roughly equally, and all at once. Cha-ching! you're on the hook for four tires at once. I found that it I didn't rotate the tires, the fronts would wear out well before the back, so... I would run the fronts off, buy two tires and put the new tires on the rear and put the rear tires (which were in nearly new condition) on the front. Burn the fronts off, rinse repeat. You were only on the hook for two tires at a time and you always had decent tires all around the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nces2 View Post
    The ones on there now are Grand Prix Performance GT, but I don't think that is what they have put on every time. Kumho(?) rings a bell, but I don't know. Theoretically, softer tires give better grip, while harder tires last longer. I really don't care. They are putting them on for free.

    When I was delivering pizza and buying my own tires, I worked out what seemed to be the best strategy for tire maintenance. Auto shops want to rotate the tires front to back every so often. This will wear out all tires roughly equally, and all at once. Cha-ching! you're on the hook for four tires at once. I found that it I didn't rotate the tires, the fronts would wear out well before the back, so... I would run the fronts off, buy two tires and put the new tires on the rear and put the rear tires (which were in nearly new condition) on the front. Burn the fronts off, rinse repeat. You were only on the hook for two tires at a time and you always had decent tires all around the car.
    I do not consider this a derail of the thread since the OP posted this. I have experienced just the opposite. My rear tires always wear harder on a pickup but that may be because of the loads I haul. For safety reasons I always put my newest tires on front for the ability to steer.

    As far as the original question, I own all three major brands and found with proper maintenance all to be reliable. I will only haul with diesels because of the power and mileage therefore will not recommend a gas truck. For the record there are some great trucks for sale in retirement communities. They usually have low mileage and have not been driven hard. IMHO it is worth a plane ticket to fly to Arizona to purchase a truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nces2 View Post
    I looked at the pictures that phrase pulled and they were all extended cab and crew cab. I have had my '01 since I bought it new in '01. 270k on it and runs like a sewing machine..... and I got free tires for life. About to get my eighth set of sneakers for her. Baby needs a new set of shoes! If every car failed after 17 years and 270K miles, we probably couldn't ask for more.
    I am sure they run great in fact I know they even set records etc... in fact I just read about a newer Tundra (I think 2012?) with over 700K miles on the original engine (but transmission rebuilt at 400K) but that's just hilarious. If something bad is going to happen to a truck you wouldn't expect the frame to snap in half!! LOL

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    I know it's a little off topic..but Toyota dealers will pay insane amounts of money for (correct me if I'm wrong) 96-01 Tacomas with the rusted frame. Years ago when I worked at a Toyota dealership a guy came in with a new one every week or 2...pick them up for a grand or 2..Toyota inspects it and paid him double if not triple what he paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay89 View Post
    I know it's a little off topic..but Toyota dealers will pay insane amounts of money for (correct me if I'm wrong) 96-01 Tacomas with the rusted frame. Years ago when I worked at a Toyota dealership a guy came in with a new one every week or 2...pick them up for a grand or 2..Toyota inspects it and paid him double if not triple what he paid for it.
    That is very true. They either have to replace the frame under recall or they can offer to buy it back to avoid having to do the recall work which costs them more than buying it from you. But the frame has to be rusted to qualify for the recall. I would be buying and selling to the dealer if I lives somewhere there was a rust problem but all the tacoma's around here are rust free.

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    ^^^^^ Well, it's probably not Sketchers. LOL

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    Worse tires I ever owned.

    Ever hear of the Firestone 500 tire recall? In 1978, Firestone announced the recall of 14.5 million steel belted radials produced by the company, the largest tire recall to date.


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    Do a drive by of the scrap bins behind the dealer, then avoid buying the brand that has the most parts in the bin.

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