Do you ever think that there will be a WW3? - Page 2

yes, its gonna happen

He who has the biggest stick wins. This is probably the only statement that is causative to our continued existance. Had the US not have been cold war dominant Russia may have slipped and put us right into darkness. Terrorism is much the same. you will always have it but at the same time it will always be both a radical idea and and minority opinion. War though? Not while we continue marching towards a global economy.

I certainly hope not, there is nothing good about war of any kind.

While your opinion hold true for multiple reasons Scrappah...I must at least inform you there is still a million silent professionals out there, veterans and tier one personnel all over our country all with long LONG combat tours under their belts against an enemy who has tried and failed to gain an edge via guerilla tactics, terrorism and house to house battles. The hipsters and the weaknesses of society today are meaningless because we have ALWAYS had a large section of society whom has never in their lives made any impact to anyone besides themselves. Something like 85% of the population holds no actual tactical positive whatsoever. It is what it is not good, not bad either. That said...those silent professionals will defend this country anyways...no matter what, myself included so don't feel too bad just because you saw a 30 year old man in yoga pants yesterday.

Afghanistan and Iraq have both suffered loss of political favor. Given the chance to do our job correctly and without the opinions of leather backed seat warmers in climate controlled buildings, terrorism as WE know it TODAY would not exist. That unfortunately is fact. What you don't know is that Saddam was committing acts of genocide upon the Kurds and it was our duty as a right and just freedom loving nation to remove the man we put there in the first place. I also purport that there is a HUGE reason why we never "found" WMDs...but boy oh boy did we find lots of extremely volatile and dangerous chemical and nuclear components that never made the news. but I suppose we could have just let Saddam do what he does and probably start a war with Iran...again...only this time with more chemicals and possibly nuclear payloads...then what? Economic depression because suddenly oil prices double, triple...quadruple? Everything has consequence.

For all the failings of Bush, it is the democratic party that lost their stomach for war despite the wild haired old man telling everyone that we have to see this through or it will undo everything and more that we have accomplished...and it has. Tactically speaking as I've said time and time again, when you make a regime change with the intent that it will be friendly to YOUR nation...you have to be there to grow and raise it for an entire generation...so that way you supplant a age group whom is friendly to you. An age group who knows not war but you building schools and internet cafes for them, patrolling for bad guys and helping their dad find a job. THAT is what you do. As we used to say, in it to win it, that is what got me through so many deployments...every time I went back things were doing better.

Jeez ... blast from the past Alloy 2. It's interesting to look back to four years ago. Things have changed some since then.

I doubt this will make sense because it seems a bit thin even to myself :

What we're talking about here is World War. That's a widespread GLOBAL WAR ... not a regional war.

We're currently engaged in a global war against a force of nature. This force of nature is called Covid--19 and just about every country in the world has been affected by it.

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LMAO .... this is where it gets thin and everybody's gonna think that i've slipped a cog. ( Please flame accordingly ! )

The Dao De Jing gives a lot of insight into Chinese culture, history, and religion. Translated to english it comes up being something like " The Book The Way ."

It's very roughly equivalent to the Holy bible of the Christians, The Koran of the Muslims, and the Torah of the Jews. These holy scriptures have been hugely influential in the way people think.

Let's take something simple like the word G-d. The first image that would pop into the mind of a Christian would probably be a benevolent old man sitting on a throne in Heaven that is all forgiving. The Muslims seem to have a prohibition against making any pictures of G-d. The G-d of the Torah could be a very angry and vengeful fulla if you didn't toe the line. The Chinese version is something incomprehensible to most people. It's simply a force that set things in motion .... absolutely nothing beyond that.

Loooong story made much too short. The Chinese don't always think the way we do.Some of the concepts they hold are so alien to our way of thinking that it's hard to relate to them. Something could standing right there plain as day and we would never see it.

That doesn't make it wong just cause it doesn't make sense to us.

It's not outside the realm of possibility that they turned a force of nature loose on themselves in order to make things right in the world. They will take some casualties but it may very well collapse those political and economic systems that aren't in harmony with " The Way ".

Originally Posted by t00nces2

I am of the belief it was unloosed to cripple the world economy to help level the playing field for China.

I don't think we will ever know for sure T. That's the hard part ... it could have been something that happened naturally. We can't nuke em' just because we suspect they did something. We would need definitive proof.

Very clever these Chinese people !

I'm just a newbie so i may have this completely wrong:

From what i've been able to gather from The Book of the Way, and similar Chinese texts, is that they have a certain picture of what correct political leadership and correct government should look like. It's similar to our notions of service leadership, where leaders of impeccable virtue lead selflessly for the greater good, ... and wealth, like water, naturally flows everywhere from it's highest point to the lowest. That might be why the idea of Communism works for them.

In their view: Our system of government and leadership is hopelessly selfish & corrupt. It will naturally collapse in upon itself in due time. They really don't have to do anything but sit and wait patiently for nature to take it's course.

It's kinda like a giant boulder perched at the top of a mountainside with little or nothing to hold it in place.
Maybe you would be tempted to come along and give it the tiniest push just to help things along ?