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    Blimps you can't see taking pictures every second. It uploads them to the ground and can be searched later if and "crimes" have been committed. Is this the same as collecting and storing all of our electronic communications?

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    no doubt in my mind that something like this has already been implemented in many places for many years. but like they say, if you can't do the time don't do the crime

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    I don't intentionally commit crimes, but I know I've jaywalked at some point, and I drove 35,000 miles last year. I'm sure I did something wrong.

    If stores are concerned about crimes, do what I did: buy security cameras. If the police are concerned with reducing crimes, then instead, I think they should offer incentives to local businesses to purchase cameras.

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    Whether we agree, disagree, protest, praise, fight or submit, this is something that we will live with. We know our government can listen into conversations through our cell phones and other electronics, so when will we find out they have x-ray vision and can see us in our homes. Do I like it, no: Do I believe it supports freedom, no: Can I do anything about it, no. But if it will save American life's from terrorists I will support it.

    Our entire state has less citizens than many of the cities in the country. I doubt it will be cost effective to spy on our cattle. Therefore I will have to be on my best behavior in the big cities.
    Give back more to this world than we take.

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    "Those who would give up freedoms for security will get nor deserve either." Benjamen Franklin
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    Tracking our phone conversations, tracking our vehicle movements, tracking our internet activity, a drone flying 24/7 above any time anywhere and why be paranoid about a big a$$ blimp over my house? National Security that's the answer?????????

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    The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

    John F. Kennedy


    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

    The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth.

    Bill Clinton

    In 55 years have we forgot what freedom is and is not! There is no expiration date on the truth and the truth will be waiting to be told.

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    I'm all for it for the borders only. Mike
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Human resources must be controlled and programed for best overall profits.

    They can imprison our bodies without our consent,
    but they can only imprison our minds with our free will choice.

    I choose to have a free mind that doesn't follow the popular propaganda machines.

    Most everything is about creating JOBS so that people have money to dream about what they want to spend it on.

    I know that we have what we have for a world because that is the kind of world that most prefer when the totals are in.

    I make my own little world within the world at large.

    If the dark side storm troopers want to come knocking on my door about all I can do is go all yoda on them.

    may the farce be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddude View Post
    "Those who would give up freedoms for security will get nor deserve either." Benjamen Franklin
    That was my thought, thanks for saving me the time from finding the quote again olddude!

    really...More should read my quote thread, the answer to this an many more lie right there from the mouths of the founders of the country. What do I know tho or them? Better to be scared of everyone an become like China..a country of Xenophobes.

    Sirscrapalot - Freedom of Speech? Only if you say nothing that bucks the system. Freedom of religion? Only if it agrees with those in power. - Me..don't like it..make your own.

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    ― George Orwell, 1984
    Determine never to be idle. No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any. It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing.
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    Funny you bring up that quote, from that book, on this very topic.

    This is what I don't get. We celebrate the freedom we have here in the States. Yet, we allow those same freedoms to be compromised in the name of security an safety. An we tell ourselves.."If you got nothing to fear why are you upset?".

    That should worry you more then anything. When the people allow such things, an justify it..that's craziness.

    Last I checked, I don't need a babysitter. I'm well beyond that age. You can say it's for safety, or whatever, but all I see is more an more ways to control the populace. I don't need big brother watching me everywhere I go, or what I do. If they are that worried about the population they got bigger issues to worry over.

    I'll quote it again since it's such a good one..

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

    He got it way back when..why can't people today do the same?

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. - Edmund Burke

    Oh I got more. You know this.

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    Our protectors at work, a illegal criminal is deported five times, last week he kills a citizen with a stolen gun. Stolen from a federal BLM agent, from his car. They then blame SF sheriff for letting him "GO". Homeland Security, the ones protecting us from ourselves in the name of "National Security", yes those "GUYS" are at it again. The same guys that can't track a Cessna 150, as a F16 knocks it from the sky in South Carolina. I sure feel safe, free and secure as "Those Guys" keep track of me!

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