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    Not every cloud has a silver lining, no gold what we have is pt and pd.

    The good news is that we'll have enough material that will get JM's interest.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Also the sand laying in-between the large boulders contains flour gold, what I learned from refining is that it can take upwards of 12 hours for the precipitated gold to settle out. I'm thinking that a guy could fill a plastic 20 litre pail half full then top off with water - stir the heck out of it then decant the water passing it through a filter to catch the flour.

    I got out to the river this morning to find Dons Milwaukee would not work, checked all the battery's all were fully charged, decided to buy my own. Headed down to the cost bought a brand new vacuum with a pair of battery's with chargers. Also the sand laying in-between the large boulders contains flour gold, what I learned from refining is that it can take upwards of 12 hours for the precipitated gold to settle out. I'm thinking that a guy could fill a plastic 20 litre pail half full then top off with water - stir the heck out of it then decant the water passing it through a filter to catch the flour.

    I got out to the river this morning to find Dons Milwaukee would not work, checked all the battery's all were fully charged, decided to buy my own. Headed down to the cost bought a brand new vacuum with a pair of battery's with chargers. Then over to Princess Auto ( HF ) your wide of 49 to get some magnets for another project, then over to OCL in Surrey for 6 bags of refractory for the new furnace I'm going to build to smelt my gold in.

    Back in Chilliwhack decided to come in the back way when I spot this air compressor made a quick u-turn into the guys driveway. The compressor sits on a 100 gallon tank, 10 hp single phase - mine for $220.00. Don is going to pick it up with his truck tomorrow. And I'm heading back to the river with my new Milwaukee Vac.

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    Back in Chilliwhack decided to come in the back way when I spot this air compressor made a quick u-turn into the guys driveway. The compressor sits on a 100 gallon tank, 10 hp single phase - mine for $220.00. Don is going to pick it up with his truck tomorrow. And I'm heading back to the river with my new Milwaukee Vac.
    Good grief. Can you please decipher this for the tired addled brain? Don who? What?

    Then over to Princess Auto ( HF ) your wide of 49 to get some magnets for another project,
    ''Your wide of 49?''

    ????????? No clue??
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    he may of meant way instead of wide although somethings come to mind when you hear wide and 49 in the same sentence(like say, waist size or inseam length).

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    NA,

    "wide of 49" is a typo....should be "your side of 49..." is talking about the 49th parallel or the border between Canada and the US. "Princess Auto" is a Canadian chain store kinda like the US Harbor Freight.

    I'm assuming Don is a friend who lent Alloy a battery-powered vacuum that turned out to be kinda worn out and wouldn't suck up the sand.

    By the way, we haven't heard much from you in the past month or so...we need an update on your scrapyard life!!! Whats the latest adventures?

    Jon.

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    Alloy,

    I could be wrong here, but chasing flour gold in the Fraser river, at least in my understanding, is a tough go. You are getting gold particles so small that they weigh less than the sand grains around them and therefore are hard to separate.

    Centrifugation is simply increasing gravity on the sand/gold mix, but if the gold particles weigh less than the surrounding (larger) sand grains then putting everything under increased gravity doesn't change much.

    It seems to me that pretty much all you can expect is separation into "black sand", which you have already established contains platinum and palladium. (and whatever gold is there, too.) Not sure of the processes necessary to extract beyond that...presumably chemical or heat. And I don't know the economics.

    It is probably why not much gold mining is done on the Fraser.

    There still seems to be some interest in the Barkerville area, though, where gold still can be found in larger chunks. I'm working in Quesnel for a bit and a guy on the contractor's crew here just quit for the summer to go work his placer lease up towards Barkerville. I had talked to him a bit about it and definitely the gold size is better than the Fraser.

    Good luck!! and keep us posted!! As always, your posts are very interesting.

    Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newattitude View Post
    Good grief. Can you please decipher this for the tired addled brain? Don who? What?



    ''Your wide of 49?''

    ????????? No clue??

    Typo, should have read, your side of 49th, that is the International boundary that separates the USA from Canada. In Canada our catch all junk store is Princess Auto, I believe you folks in the US favour ( HF ) Harbour Freight.

    I'm told we Canadians talk funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmilleng View Post
    Alloy,

    I could be wrong here, but chasing flour gold in the Fraser river, at least in my understanding, is a tough go. You are getting gold particles so small that they weigh less than the sand grains around them and therefore are hard to separate.

    Centrifugation is simply increasing gravity on the sand/gold mix, but if the gold particles weigh less than the surrounding (larger) sand grains then putting everything under increased gravity doesn't change much.

    It seems to me that pretty much all you can expect is separation into "black sand", which you have already established contains platinum and palladium. (and whatever gold is there, too.) Not sure of the processes necessary to extract beyond that...presumably chemical or heat. And I don't know the economics.

    It is probably why not much gold mining is done on the Fraser.

    There still seems to be some interest in the Barkerville area, though, where gold still can be found in larger chunks. I'm working in Quesnel for a bit and a guy on the contractor's crew here just quit for the summer to go work his placer lease up towards Barkerville. I had talked to him a bit about it and definitely the gold size is better than the Fraser.

    Good luck!! and keep us posted!! As always, your posts are very interesting.

    Jon.
    Thanks for the heads up on centrifuges, I have the technical drawings for the HY-G from the small 7 inches baby up to the large 38 inch 40 horse power monster that consumes a whopping 330 gallons of water per minute.

    Centrifuges do have their limitations.

    I don't mind river sand the Jar on the left is brown mud is gold, I have yet to be filter this out and melt it into a button that I've giving to my daughter on Friday she wants to buy a mac laptop. I don't think the button will cover the full purchase price but that's why girls have dads to pick up the slack.


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    A few pictures from my Penticton trip, some wild flowers for our female members and some cars for the guys.
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    I see the photography hobby is going well. Nice pics.
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    NA is only available for brief public apperances Saw.

    If you'd like to schedule one, please contact the Publicity Officer of the Cooler Pullers, an we'll see what we can do for you. NA is very busy, so we make no promises.

    Have your people call our people.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER View Post
    I see the photography hobby is going well. Nice pics.
    Thanks Brasscatcher, as you know I gave all my photography equipment to my daughter. All I had left was my 20 year old Kodak that I use for my occasional ebay listings to take photo's with and I had lost it the other day so I replaced it with a new Samsung Galaxy 2 pocket type camera.

    The Samsung camera is a rather impressive little camera, I think it takes better pictures that that Sony A900 my daughter now owns.



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    My new car trailer, picked this up for $2500.00.

    Below is Shawn with his rat rod. Shawn owns a 100 unit self storage unit here in town when he built the units he made living quarters and a shop for himself to play in.

    Another photo album, Trailer Photos by gelmgren | Photobucket

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    Flour gold is doable especially if you head into the flood plain where flour and fine gold get caught up in the grass and tree roots.

    About two feet under thé root mass is where your going to find your gold.

    Flour canbe carried over to another wetbox with riffles built in to slow the water flow and help settle the flour.

    After removing the flour run the dreggs through the centrifuge.

    I do not yet have an equipment permit so I have to pack bucketa home

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up on centrifuges, I have the technical drawings for the HY-G from the small 7 inches baby up to the large 38 inch 40 horse power monster that consumes a whopping 330 gallons of water per minute.

    Centrifuges do have their limitations.

    I don't mind river sand the Jar on the left is brown mud is gold, I have yet to be filter this out and melt it into a button that I've giving to my daughter on Friday she wants to buy a mac laptop. I don't think the button will cover the full purchase price but that's why girls have dads to pick up the slack.

    Just curious as to what you meant by filter?
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