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    shipping insurance

    the last 6 items I have sold and shipped, I have decided to insure the package. For me it has been just $1 to $3 extra.

    I decided to do this, as I mostly am selling hard drives and laptops, so if anything happens, then a claim can be filed and the money gotten back.



    I talked to the clerk at the post office and he said the buyers can file a claim and get the money, this way they are not out any money and I don't have to refund anything.

    since I include my shipping into my prices then the full amount will be refunded.

    something to think about.
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    i use the ship saver app thru ebay for my insurance its about 50% the cost of the built in insurance options.

    ShipSaver Insurance - Productivity apps for eBay users

    The big bonus is the app will let you insure first class packages. Usps will not insure first class packages.
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    I use Risky (self) Insurance
    I make a lot of extra money that way
    On the rare occasion of a lost or damaged package >> Instant payout >> No paper work >> No Muss >> No Fuss

    Start putting that $1 to $3 extra into the risky jar >> Average of $1.50 item shipped

    How much did you spend on shipping Insurance in the past 12 months?
    How much have you received in payouts?

    That difference pays for Dinner & Drinks several times a year at this house

    ShipSaver or USPS Insurance ever take you out for dinner & drinks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    I use Risky (self) Insurance
    I make a lot of extra money that way
    On the rare occasion of a lost or damaged package >> Instant payout >> No paper work >> No Muss >> No Fuss

    Start putting that $1 to $3 extra into the risky jar >> Average of $1.50 item shipped

    How much did you spend on shipping Insurance in the past 12 months?
    How much have you received in payouts?

    That difference pays for Dinner & Drinks several times a year at this house

    ShipSaver or USPS Insurance ever take you out for dinner & drinks?
    self insure a thousand dollars worth of scrap that fits in flat rate box, then try to figure out how many dinners and drinks that would have bought when it gets lost

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    Been doing for years

    Like I said, My Insurance Co takes me out for dinner & drinks several times a year

    Shipping Insurance very profitable part of the business

    How many of those box's that you ship have been lost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    i use the ship saver app thru ebay for my insurance its about 50% the cost of the built in insurance options.

    ShipSaver Insurance - Productivity apps for eBay users

    The big bonus is the app will let you insure first class packages. Usps will not insure first class packages.
    I see it says "Try for FREE", does that mean, there is some sort of fee after a "trial period" aside from what the insurance will just cost?

    I will give them a try either way. Thanks for the recommendation!

    BTW, with them, can the buyer file the claim, like you can if you get the insurance through USPS?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    I use Risky (self) Insurance
    I make a lot of extra money that way
    On the rare occasion of a lost or damaged package >> Instant payout >> No paper work >> No Muss >> No Fuss

    Start putting that $1 to $3 extra into the risky jar >> Average of $1.50 item shipped

    How much did you spend on shipping Insurance in the past 12 months?
    How much have you received in payouts?

    That difference pays for Dinner & Drinks several times a year at this house

    ShipSaver or USPS Insurance ever take you out for dinner & drinks?
    As much as I can appreciate that, I have shipped close to $600 to $700 worth of merchandise in the past 2 months. Only recently I decided to start adding insurance to all shipments. I am doing this more for the fact, if the items are lost, or damaged, then the buyer and I are not out any money. They can file the claim, get the money, and go buy the same item from someone else, and I dont have to loose money on the deal myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    self insure a thousand dollars worth of scrap that fits in flat rate box, then try to figure out how many dinners and drinks that would have bought when it gets lost
    That is why I am starting to insure all packages now.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    Been doing for years

    Like I said, My Insurance Co takes me out for dinner & drinks several times a year

    Shipping Insurance very profitable part of the business

    How many of those box's that you ship have been lost?
    Before and after, none, but don't feel like taking the chance, especially when it is such a small cost.

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    nope, the try for free means you dont have to pay anything for the first package you insure with them that is valued at $20 or less, i just started using it though so im not sure how they are gonna be with claims. I stopped using UPS because they would not honor there insurance claims, i call them the brown bomber. If youve seen the movie grandmas boy, you will know why i call them that. I use fedex now on anything that is over 70 pounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    nope, the try for free means you dont have to pay anything for the first package you insure with them that is valued at $20 or less, i just started using it though so im not sure how they are gonna be with claims. I stopped using UPS because they would not honor there insurance claims, i call them the brown bomber. If youve seen the movie grandmas boy, you will know why i call them that. I use fedex now on anything that is over 70 pounds
    Yeah, well you got the government to think for all that, for selling them to a private company.

    I tried signing up for a FEDEX account not long ago, but there was some error to it...need to try it again to be honest lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    Yeah, well you got the government to think for all that, for selling them to a private company.

    I tried signing up for a FEDEX account not long ago, but there was some error to it...need to try it again to be honest lol.
    i said UPS not USPS, UPS is garbage, there shipping cost is the highest and they dont honor insurance claims

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    Yeah, well you got the government to think for all that, for selling them to a private company.

    I tried signing up for a FEDEX account not long ago, but there was some error to it...need to try it again to be honest lol.
    What did the Gov't have to do with the UPS (brown trucks)??

    Explain in your listing that the insurance is optional and only if requested by the buyer, that the cost for ins. would be X amount.
    That way if something did happen then your not responsible for it if they do not request the ins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    i said UPS not USPS, UPS is garbage, there shipping cost is the highest and they dont honor insurance claims
    Sorry JG, I miss read that. Yeah, I have never used UPS for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    What did the Gov't have to do with the UPS (brown trucks)??

    Explain in your listing that the insurance is optional and only if requested by the buyer, that the cost for ins. would be X amount.
    That way if something did happen then your not responsible for it if they do not request the ins.
    I miss read his posts...I thought he said USPS, not UPS.

    That would be good, but the way I look at it, is that even though ebay reps could look at the listings, and then see the buyer declining insurance, etc...it could still be a bunch of headache. To me, the few dollars I have been spending, or even with the program that JGhilino recommended is worth the peace of mind to know that if anything happens, the buyer and I both are covered.

    But that is also why I had it to the bid amount, so technically it isnt like I am out the profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    Explain in your listing that the insurance is optional and only if requested by the buyer, that the cost for ins. would be X amount.
    That way if something did happen then your not responsible for it if they do not request the ins.
    That is irrelevant, because ebay is judge, jury and executioner. Ebay makes the decision on anything and that decision is final. We do insurance to cya. If they buyer dosent like how ebay decides it then they can also file a claim with paypal. If they dont like how paypal decides it they can do a chargeback with there credit card company. Reguardless the seller is screwed if they dont have insurance and something goes wrong.

    Just to make it 100% clear, insurance is not for the buyers protection, it is for the sellers protection. I dont put any shipping or insurance costs or fees directly in front of the buyer, because its bad business practice. 99% of the items i sell are free shipping. So i have everything built into the item price. For my ebay sales.

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    What private company do I work for GEO? Last time I checked Congress was still in charge of the USPS. At least I know I have government blue cross blue shield for my health insurance. What is this company you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    What private company do I work for GEO? Last time I checked Congress was still in charge of the USPS. At least I know I have government blue cross blue shield for my health insurance. What is this company you speak of?
    lol we are talking about shipping insurance

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    Yeah, well you got the government to think for all that, for selling them to a private company.

    I tried signing up for a FEDEX account not long ago, but there was some error to it...need to try it again to be honest lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    lol we are talking about shipping insurance
    Looks like GEO is talking about USPS I think in responce to saying they didnt pay claims. He mentioned this once before in another post and didnt answer that one either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    What private company do I work for GEO? Last time I checked Congress was still in charge of the USPS. At least I know I have government blue cross blue shield for my health insurance. What is this company you speak of?
    Well, I will have to do a little research tomorrow, but I thought about 2 or so years ago, the government sold all of USPS for around $500 Million to a private company? Just something I read online somewhere...for all I know it could have been nothing but a bunch of BS.

    I wasn't really speaking badly of the USPS, but of the decision makers more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    Well, I will have to do a little research tomorrow, but I thought about 2 or so years ago, the government sold all of USPS for around $500 Million to a private company? Just something I read online somewhere...for all I know it could have been nothing but a bunch of BS.

    I wasn't really speaking badly of the USPS, but of the decision makers more so.
    Save your time USPS is still owned by the government

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    Save your time USPS is still owned by the government
    Perhaps what I read then, was about an offer to either sell or own it.

    I personally have nothing against USPS. I thought JG was referring to USPS, and my comment was in regards to who bought out USPS, but I miss read his comment and so forth.

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    Have you ever tried to collect on a USPS insured parcel that was damaged? Darn near impossible to do. I tried to collect on a collectible 1qt fruit jar I had shipped. I used a 5 ply cardboard box. It was large enough so that there was 4 inches of space on all sides of the jar. I filled this space with foam rubber. It got crushed. USPS said it wasn't packed good enough!


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