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    New TX reefer and burned wire laws

    Just talked to the yard today. New law states that you must provide one of the following for reefers:
    AC tech license
    Contractor license
    Paperwork showing you purchased the reefers or AC units.

    Burned wire (wolverine)
    Must have paperwork showing it came from a building or automotive fire.



    Im glad they are cracking down, tired of the dope heads stealing stuff.


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    I was looking at the TX governor as a possable deregulation president, guess I need to look deeper or elseware. when will people learn NO regulation, NO law will stop a thief. especially a tweeker, they will find a way, or some one to sell to, all new regs and laws do is make it harder and harder for honest hard working people to make a living. what about the frig or air conditioner found in an illegal dump site or on the curb, guess they will just have to go to the county land fill. every new law or regulation usually is fraught with unintended conciquences, and just put more and more people and business out of business. there are currently over 800,000 different laws in this country. sry for the rant. just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddude View Post
    I was looking at the TX governor as a possable deregulation president, guess I need to look deeper or elseware. when will people learn NO regulation, NO law will stop a thief. especially a tweeker, they will find a way, or some one to sell to, all new regs and laws do is make it harder and harder for honest hard working people to make a living. just my .02
    I agree Olddude....Some of the local scrap yards were fined for recommending that people burn their wire down to get bare copper....But nothing has changed....Not only are more people burning copper, but when I was at the yard today the guy told me I could get more for my insulated if I burned it. Guess that big fine did nothing to stop them and that does not really surprise me.

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    Why would a yard tell people to burn wire for a higher price? If they're buying enough volume, they can get into a granulator and be way ahead versus people burning crap.

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    My guess it is some people asking how they can get better money for what they have. In my case I happen to be a regular and the guy is always chatting us up. It just never sinks in that I do not have time to strip wire and I am not going to risk getting caught burning the wire. I get almost $2 a pound for insulated wire and that is more than enough for me.

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    Could be. I guess some just aren't bothered by fines.

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    I get almost $2 a pound for insulated wire and that is more than enough for me.
    That is for # 1 insulated, correct? Very good price, What does your yard consider #1. We've been saving ours up, might have to hit your yard with the load. $ .80 difference in price, more than enough to pay for the gas.

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    I agree, the thiefs will just find a crooked contractor who will buy their coolers, or units as a whole, which gives them their outlet.

    I have a copy of TX SB694, and it states those new requirements are for condensing or evaporator coils for cental heating or a/c units, so refrigerators would not be affected. Which I am glad because I usually remove the aluminum coils out of the freezers of refrigerators, and have several stashed right now, waiting to take them in.

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    Brought in an AC compressor today. Yard didn't question it, or ask for proof of how I obtained it. Might be because they know me.

    Called another yard that typically has a lot better prices...They won't take it without proof or an AC license... oh well.

    Either yards will take it, or the reefer/compressors will just be broken down even further. Pain in the butt though without proper tools.
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    Oh, and my Electricians license doesn't count as credible source of obtainment.

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    Open up a recycling company. You buy and sell scrap. Other yards you sell to should not have a issue with it? I have no issue with it as they have my DBA on file
    My company name was Easy Recycle but has since been closed
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    Quote Originally Posted by rca987 View Post
    Oh, and my Electricians license doesn't count as credible source of obtainment.
    What Easyrecycle stated should work.

    I keep paperwork on me at all times for all current pickups that I am doing for the day, so if anyone has a question, I show them the paperwork that has my letterhead and all on it, and they never have an issue.

    Granted every situation is different, but should help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    That is for # 1 insulated, correct? Very good price, What does your yard consider #1. We've been saving ours up, might have to hit your yard with the load. $ .80 difference in price, more than enough to pay for the gas.
    Wow! That is a great price. I typically pay more than the scrap yards and I pay $1.70 for #1.

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    You all need to come to Northern VA. Here is over $3.30 for Copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rca987 View Post
    Brought in an AC compressor today. Yard didn't question it, or ask for proof of how I obtained it. Might be because they know me.

    Called another yard that typically has a lot better prices...They won't take it without proof or an AC license... oh well.

    Either yards will take it, or the reefer/compressors will just be broken down even further. Pain in the butt though without proper tools.
    The law only has to do with the copper/aluminum radiators, the compressor does not fall under it, so they should take it without any real issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne1956 View Post
    The law only has to do with the copper/aluminum radiators, the compressor does not fall under it, so they should take it without any real issue.
    What if you cut the aluminum from the copper tubing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    What if you cut the aluminum from the copper tubing?
    Good question, I will need to reread and see if they talk about copper tubing that is part of refrigerant lines.

    At times I wish I had an economical way of melting copper. If so I would just start creating 10 pound bricks out of everything, wire, tube, etc. On that note, does anyone know if the copper purity in tubes is the same as wire?

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    i imagine it is not the same grade because wire is made with high purity copper for better conductivity, and tubing is probably a less pure alloy for structural integrity. hence the difference in #1wire price and #1 tubing price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    What if you cut the aluminum from the copper tubing?
    I cut mine up and the yard had a fit. They could tell by the marks on the tubes that they came from AC coils.

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    Just a little update to this thread. Window units aluminum/copper reefer are legal to bring in without documents. This was at a yard that is very strict about laws pertaining to scrap in Texas.

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