I supose the solution would be to find a way to seperate the lead from the tubes. Looks like i'll be experimenting with a couple of crt tubes.
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I supose the solution would be to find a way to seperate the lead from the tubes. Looks like i'll be experimenting with a couple of crt tubes.
It always amazes me how all problems can be "fixed" by paying the government money and the government collecting stats. I don't have a better answer than the government but I don't believe their's is a great deal.
Locally I have noted that most who are aware of the regulations want to comply but there is a $5 charge per crt device. I am certain the inconvience of traveling several milles and paying the fee has caused many crt's to end up in the landfill. I avoid taking them and look forward to the time when there are far less needing to be disposed of.
What I do enjoy is our members educating themselves on how to do a better job of recycling. Thanks to those who contribute to these serious discussions. Mike
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Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked
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I think you better stop while you're ahead and leave TV/monitors alone all together. If you said something like that to the EPA they would nail you to the wall.Originally Posted by logansryche
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Once you open a tube you have created hazardous waste.
Not interested in going there
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I doubt that, they'd tell me to do it properly or don't do it all. Which speaking of, I found a smelter to handle that end of things.
That's the part that keeps confusing me - unless these people pay attention to facebook, someone found out and told on me which doesn't surprise me any since this is NY. I still see it as a blessing rather then a curse.
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Various LEO's randomly poke around on craigslist and social media.
MattInTheHat wonders how many people are off to google "LEO"
Currently looking for a job in or related to scrap/recycling. Relocation is possible for the right offer.
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It's not a gas, it's a vacuum. But their might be a fine powder called phosphor.
How cathode-ray tube is made - material, used, processing, parts, components, dimensions, composition, product, Design, Raw Materials, The Manufacturing Process of cathode-ray tube
I remember Leo, he was a good guy.
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I love steel, copper, brass and aluminum.
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NuLife Glass in Dunkirk New York. There is a fee.
I have an R2 certified recycler that charges between $5.00 and $15.00 depending on size. Console and Rear Projection are $25.00
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Awhile back my son got a visit from the state EPA. He's the owner / operator of a crematory in SC. (The next door neighbor lodged a complaint against the former owner because the machine was running dirty) Long story short, we got the machine running right, the EPA did a follow up visit to verify, and upon leaving said: You'll never see us again.
A few years ago the Maine State EPA paid a visit to one of our local boat yards. They came in and found a number of minor violations. They didn't issue any fines but it did cost the owner of the boat yard 1/4 million dollars to make the changes they demanded.
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What you need to understand is that there is a difference in cultures. South Carolina is friendly to business whereas Maine is not.
New York state has a reputation for being a lot like Maine ..... probably worse.
Ever heard the fable about the girl and the rattlesnake ? If not, just take a minute and look it up. Then ... you'll know what you're dealing with.
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I've delt with Maine state and county ran programs versus New York and Maine's nicer about some things but not so much about others. I also know how crooked NY can be with certin things. I also firmly believe that if I do things according to what the act says and what the EPA says, everything will go smooth. I'm already one up on one of their requirements in that there's one emplyee, and two co-owners in this outfit(me, my wife, and her brother). We just need to make sure we do things right and make sure when scrap goes out, it goes where it's supose to and doesn't end up on the shores of some foreign country. This means I'll have to pool whatever electronic stuff I have now, sell it where I sell it, and get that $250 for registration. Last thing I need to do is start doing business and have to pay a hefty fine because I didn't register. This however, doesn't hinder me buying or selling through the forum or at cost locally.
There's a reason they call the EPA the Employment Prevention Agency.
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Only dealt with the epa once, although not scrap related.
Had to build a big barrier to stop runoff from a house site being cleared... supposedly the highway ditch water counted as a "stream" and it was "close"
Anyway.... compliance...albeit a bit spiteful, was met/checked and we never heard from them again.
You got the right idea, if they got nothing to gripe about then they will stop wasting time with you and go save the world on someone else's time and budget.
Good luck
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My experiance was with mn epa. worked part time for a guy that did a few questionable things before i met him and epa got after him and never let go. he finally ended up selling his business and quitting doing scrap metal because he was getting nailed with fines left and right.
i do believe he deserved a few of them for free airing coolant out of refrigerators and burning stuff for metal. but as a first time offender reguardless of how many times he may have done it the fines we excessive and for them to completely shut him down over little stuff was just plain stupid.
example:
breaking down a car. fluids spill even when your careful. because he only removed a little topsoil when contamination was visible instead of excavating a crater to remove it he got leveled with 10k in fines and fees so they could dig said crater. also shut him down a week during this to "evaluate further contamination issues... " how many of us spilt a little fluid? pretty sure all of us at some point.
did he deserve fines for free airing freon? yes. burning trailerhouses? probably. but for a bit of spilt oil or coolant? thats what i mean by the dont leave you alone. he got checks for violations sometimes weekly.
not sure whos wheaties he pissed in but apparently he did a pretty good job of it. grant his may be an extreme case but still demonstrates what epa can do off thier leash.
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I have registered with the EPA which has been necessary for the last couple of years if you have a registered business. The fee is miniscule compared to the many other applications and fees I have had to spend elesewhere. OP I will save you some time. You cannot remove the lead from CRT glass yourself. It sounds like you need to seriously assess your business practices and how you handle materials. The EPA is really not asking for a lot in this, a simple yearly audit to assure you aren't filling warehouses, abandoning them once paid by other companies and leaving taxpayers to foot the clean up bill which is becoming increasingly common in the news. I mean this to be helpful, you need to ensure you're in compliance with all laws and what the hazards are of each material you are handling or face regulatory fines and potential lawsuits from customers and employees. There's no shame in eliminating your overhead and recycling as a private income. But when you start a business you have a responsibility to the general public and your clients to be aware of all laws, regulations and risks involved with your services. CRTs are expensive to handle and have processed properly. If there was money in recycling them, the largest electronics recycling companies in the US would not have had to close down as many facilities and accept as many financial losses as they have over the past years. It would be best to just charge for CRT handling from your customers and let the bigger companies in your area that have negotiated reduced fee contracts with the CRT processing companies dispose of them. My 0.02
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I've been researching CRT handling alot since the EPA contacted me and I've yet to find anyone in NY or PA to take them so it might have to go on my exclusion list. If I do take em I'll dismantle em down so all thats left is the tube - it's that tube I haven't been able to find anyone to take. I'm told a smelter will take em because they'll be able to separate the lead from the glass.
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NuLife Glass in Dunkirk New York. There is a fee.
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...a 3 second google search of "recycle crt tv new york" brought up several listings.
~You have to start somewhere to get anywhere~
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Ill have to give them a ring, I did find a place called ECS Refining that might work out also. I haven't taken in or purchased and electronics yet. I'm hoping it picks up soon(had a lady try to sell me her 15" CRT for $30 and I was like o.O)
I know that and that wasn't the issue. The issue was finding a place that didn't just charge and stockpile them(another growing issue in NY). I don't need any of that coming back on me.
EDIT: Looks like NuLife is where I'll be sending my tubes if I get any, their site seems legit and their process looks good.
Last edited by logansryche; 12-20-2014 at 08:59 PM.
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Hope you mean she was going to pay you.
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