Results 1 to 14 of 14

Salvage Rights For Lake Erie?

| Legal Topics - Laws, Certifications, Contracts etc
  1. #1
    PickerBenny started this thread.
    PickerBenny's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Erie, PA
    Posts
    255
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 373 Times in 107 Posts

    Salvage Rights For Lake Erie?

    we have a boat that we take out to lake erie periodically and we can recall a few small boats that went down around our cottage. is it legal to salvage wreckage on the bottom of the lake? it would be the U.S side. Would just grab the outboards unless its an aluminum hull


    Watch my scrapping videos on YouTube! Like, Subscribe & Comment! Videos Daily!
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFF...V2NnBiOukrn6Mg


  2. #2
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,161
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 245 Times in 167 Posts
    i dont think anyone will come and say anything to you.I would go for it

  3. #3
    beardo's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2013
    Location
    NE South Dakota
    Posts
    220
    Thanks
    56
    Thanked 383 Times in 146 Posts

    Salvage Rights For Lake Erie?

    I assume there is actual salvage laws/permits around the great lakes. Around these parts we do "magnet" fishing with a rope and the biggest magnet you can pull but I have only done it one and just caught some washers.
    "And if your train's on time, You can get to work by nine, and start your slaving job to get your pay. If you ever get annoyed, Look at me I'm self-employed
    I love to work at nothing all day" -BTO

  4. #4
    hobo finds's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Nov 2010
    Location
    tucson, az
    Posts
    3,736
    Thanks
    4,496
    Thanked 4,247 Times in 1,850 Posts
    I would hope if you caught a "big one" you would remove the whole thing not just the good stuff $$$.

  5. #5
    PickerBenny started this thread.
    PickerBenny's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Erie, PA
    Posts
    255
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 373 Times in 107 Posts
    as much as i can get out, junk or cash

  6. #6
    newattitude's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Hinckley Ohio, home of the buzzards
    Posts
    2,163
    Thanks
    1,431
    Thanked 2,477 Times in 902 Posts
    Last edited by newattitude; 04-08-2014 at 07:33 PM.
    Scrapper, Scrap Yard Worker, Horse farm worker, Cooler Puller and just plain ''tired''

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to newattitude for This Post:


  8. #7
    lousypirate's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Marne, MI
    Posts
    444
    Thanks
    34
    Thanked 286 Times in 138 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by beardo View Post
    I assume there is actual salvage laws/permits around the great lakes. Around these parts we do "magnet" fishing with a rope and the biggest magnet you can pull but I have only done it one and just caught some washers.
    Fyi- they make specific drag magnets. I thought about doing it during my stint in flint, mi. Only thing that sucks about that is you don't get any other metals.

  9. #8
    Mechanic688's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Warsaw , Ind. In the heart of the lakes, and down the street from the hotel where Al Capone stayed.
    Posts
    9,578
    Thanks
    11,248
    Thanked 10,600 Times in 4,690 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by lousypirate View Post
    Fyi- they make specific drag magnets. I thought about doing it during my stint in flint, mi. Only thing that sucks about that is you don't get any other metals.
    yep, cannot snag an alum. boat or motor with a magnet, maybe a large grappling hook.
    P & M Recycling - Specializing in E-Waste Recycling.
    If you enjoy your freedom, thank a vet.

  10. #9
    Sirscrapalot's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Mar 2012
    Location
    A sandbar off the atlantic..OBX,NC
    Posts
    5,673
    Thanks
    10,866
    Thanked 7,747 Times in 3,487 Posts
    Ahh..this is why I love the ocean, unless you find gold, nobody cares about the rights..an all that legal talk..

    Salvage rights...pffft.

    ( Yes yes I know this isn't true, but let me live in my bubble, tyvm)

    Edit: Maybe something helpful in this wiki leak..(no it's not a typo, it's a p-u-n)..maybe not. Edit 2: Helps if I add the link huh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_salvage#Plunder

    Sirscrapalot - Anchor away..wait no, not there, I was going scrap that!
    Last edited by Sirscrapalot; 04-08-2014 at 10:52 PM. Reason: Added a possibily useful link, or maybe I just want to see who reads this.

  11. #10
    BurlyGuys's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Waterford Michigan
    Posts
    1,568
    Thanks
    1,068
    Thanked 1,582 Times in 619 Posts
    Salvage rights used to be pretty straightforward until that salvage company was forced in court to return millions in gold to some government recently. Sorry I don't remember what country, the amount, or the salvage company. I just remember it pi**ing me off when I heard it.
    Slaying dragons and rescuing damsels in distress. It's just what we do.

    Also, Burly Smash!


    John Terrell
    Burly Guys Junk Removal LLC
    4885 Highland Road
    Waterford, MI 48328
    (248) 224-2188

    http://www.burlyguys.com

  12. #11
    beardo's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2013
    Location
    NE South Dakota
    Posts
    220
    Thanks
    56
    Thanked 383 Times in 146 Posts

    Salvage Rights For Lake Erie?

    It is something I have always thought was cool. I know along the Oregon coast they have been having issues with clean up from the Tsunami in Japan. Things like 200 ft concrete docks washing up on shore. No one wants to pay for it to be removed. I heard they are being very lenient on the salvage. I would bet there could be opportunity in doing any salvage around water, both in scrap and in paid work. If you figure out all the laws you may even been able to get state contracts for clean up. I live in South Dakota now so I will never be a water scrapper or pirate

  13. #12
    weaponepsilon's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Oct 2013
    Location
    MN
    Posts
    41
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts
    Thats actually kind of interesting. Here in MN, we got lakes that freeze, and idiots who drive on them when they aren't thick enough. There are stories of vehicles being left in lakes because of that long with who knows what. There was one a while back of a guy who was ice fishing when his truck went through the ice. When a recovery team went in with divers and pulled it out the owner looked at it afterwards saying, "Um, no that one's not mine. You pulled out the wrong one."
    Scrap Jack LLC in south metro Minnesota; EPA 608 Certified; MPCA registered; DOT Registered; Universal scrap hauler http://scrapjackllc.com

  14. The Following 2 Users say Thank You for This Post by weaponepsilon:


  15. #13
    Mechanic688's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Warsaw , Ind. In the heart of the lakes, and down the street from the hotel where Al Capone stayed.
    Posts
    9,578
    Thanks
    11,248
    Thanked 10,600 Times in 4,690 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    Salvage rights used to be pretty straightforward until that salvage company was forced in court to return millions in gold to some government recently. Sorry I don't remember what country, the amount, or the salvage company. I just remember it pi**ing me off when I heard it.
    Here you go Burly,
    In May 2007, Odyssey Marine Exploration undertook the Black Swan Project and recovered an estimated $500 million USD in silver and gold coins from a ship wreck in the Atlantic Ocean.[17] However, the wreck and its contents were claimed by the Spanish government.[18] A legal dispute through United States Federal Courts was resolved in February 2012, when it was reported that U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark Pizzo had ordered Odyssey to return the coins to Spain by February 24, 2012 for dispersal to museums, not to heirs. The Supreme Court declined to stay this order and Odyssey has agreed to abide by the decision.[19]

  16. #14
    bigburtchino's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2011
    Location
    California
    Posts
    1,644
    Thanks
    4,368
    Thanked 2,794 Times in 1,128 Posts
    That sucks! You would think Spain would at least let them recover their cost. At least a kiss on the cheek by the Queen and a Muchas Gracias!
    Last edited by bigburtchino; 04-11-2014 at 02:10 AM.


  17. Similar threads on the Scrap Metal Forum

    1. Auction in Erie PA 16502 ending April 7th....
      By Phantoms001 in forum Auction Talk
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 04-07-2014, 05:26 PM
    2. Lake Wales Escrap lead
      By jaydee1445 in forum Scrap Metal Spots
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 04-05-2013, 07:40 AM
    3. New in Salt Lake City
      By sidescrap in forum Introduce yourself
      Replies: 6
      Last Post: 07-20-2012, 05:50 PM
    4. Rights
      By Dumpster-Dee in forum Off Topic Discussions
      Replies: 4
      Last Post: 01-14-2012, 12:01 AM
    5. Hello From Lake County, IL
      By scrappinmom in forum Introduce yourself
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 01-08-2012, 12:27 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

 
Browse the Most Recent Threads
On SMF In THIS CATEGORY.





OR

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

The Scrap Metal Forum

    The Scrap Metal Forum is the #1 scrap metal recycling community in the world. Here we talk about the scrap metal business, making money, where we connect with other scrappers, scrap yards and more.

SMF on Facebook and Twitter

Twitter Facebook