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    Old scrapper, learning new things

    I've done this on/off for years, but in a low key way. Separate some, don't bother with most, forget electronics. I'm changing that, and I need to learn the reclamation fo PMs. I know we're not supposed to advertise, but is asking for a partner allowed? Along the lines of, "I'm in the ___ area, looking for help with ___, 50/50 split." I'll be here a lot either way.



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    Welcome to SMF. You are allowed to advertise if you buy a membership. As far as looking for a partner without without a membership, that would be okay as far as I am concerned. Good luck.
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    I am sure

    "I'm in the ___ area, looking for help with ___, 50/50 split."

    Is fine to post/ask/say. Plus, no one really moderates this forum so even if it wasn't it would be fine.....

    My guess is if you have access to a good stream of materials you will find someone willing to help locally. But if you have the time, all the knowledge you would need is on here somewhere and people here are also usually willing to help, for free.

    If you are doing electronics/computers/servers, which is what I do, it can get VERY complicated and VERY involved depending on how much you want to maximize profits and how much work you want to put in.

    I tried to make a flowchart at one point that outlined my process for materials but after about 100 bubbles/decisions in the chart I gave up. After a while you learn what is worth what, what is worth it to take apart, where to send what stuff, etc etc etc.....

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    Thanks, my problem is I don't have all that I need- space, time, ambition, good sources for more stuff- and anyone willing to help with what I've accumulated would also be an accountability partner, and up my game. Some people are like that, I'm one of 'em. I'm incrementally improving all the things I mentioned, but working with someone else could increase that exponentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    Thanks, my problem is I don't have all that I need- space, time, ambition, good sources for more stuff- and anyone willing to help with what I've accumulated would also be an accountability partner, and up my game. Some people are like that, I'm one of 'em. I'm incrementally improving all the things I mentioned, but working with someone else could increase that exponentially.
    That is not a problem that just you have. Everyone has that problem. Everyone has to decide how to spend their time and use their space. Everyone is looking for good sources for more stuff. Everyone is looking for good people willing to help, and for the right price you can find laborers/employees to help.

    You have everything you need, just gotta take it slow and grow at a rate your time/space can accommodate. I don't think just finding a partner will fix your problems. But most time what people who don't have the time to deal with their scrap do is sell it to someone who does.

    For example, an HVAC company owner may not have the time to deal with all the scrap they generate, a scrapper may come along and buy what they have every once in a while. The owner COULD spend 10hrs disassembling the stuff to get top dollar for it for $1000. Or the owner could spend 20mins selling it to a scrapper for $400, and use the 10 hrs he freed up doing other jobs making much more that the $600 he gave up by selling the scrap. Its all a balancing game of time vs effort vs money.

    I am assuming you are in a boat like that, you have a bunch of material, but you dont have the time or know how to scrap it all. Maybe put an add up on facebook marketplace or CL offering everything for sale for a set price and see if you get any bites. Will it be the most money? no, but it would get it all gone at once, quickly, and get some money.... which sometimes is the best option. Just a thought. Some people will do a split like you mentioned as well, but there is no guarantee THEY know what they are doing, or that they are maximizing the value, or that they are honest and actually splitting it as agreed upon.

    Good luck.
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    Ambition seems to be alot of peoples problem these days

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    Thanks, I agree, much of the stuff- TV screens, or the glass + ITO, most of the gold boards and silver switches, etc. I'd rather sell, and learn how to reclaim Au/Ag just to have some, and to know how to do it. I've watched a lot of videos where they tear apart transformers for copper, or strip wire smaller than I'd bother with, etc. Most of the stuff is better off just being sold for me, but knowing how to do it is both interesting and useful if, for example, gold shot up to $5,000 an ounce. And, finding places to buy this stuff is a challenge, and one place to buy all at reasonable prices seemingly nonexistent. Not, griping, just observing. Not giving up, just facing reality.

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    If it was easy, everybody would do it.

    I dunno, I'm reading in between the lines.

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    You've got gold fever....... You should slow down, quit watching Moose's youtube videos and spend your time reading here.

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    I don't know who Moose is, there's more than 1 person on Youtube, if you didn't know, and I've got no fever, I'm just trying to do things to make the world, and my quality of life, better, and reading your reply is just wasting my time. You've done nothing to help me in my endevour, only criticized me and told me what to do. I can get that anywhere on the Net, I don't need this forum.

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    But I did help. I suggested spending time here reading old and new threads. There is a wealth of information here that you're not going to find on youtube.

    There are a lot of scrappers here that share what they scrap and how and where they find it...myself included. I scrap phone systems, network equipment, computers and laptops for the circuit boards and I have a thread where I explain how I do it.

    The information is there if you're willing to spend the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    Thanks, my problem is I don't have all that I need- space, time, ambition, good sources for more stuff- and anyone willing to help with what I've accumulated would also be an accountability partner, and up my game. Some people are like that, I'm one of 'em. I'm incrementally improving all the things I mentioned, but working with someone else could increase that exponentially.
    I'm trying to figure out what you would bring to the game? If someone had the stream, the area to work, and the drive.... all they need is 10 minutes of reading this forum, and they don't need you.

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    I find the right person, we could start making money just with the stuff I already have, and with the space we've created, and all the good boards, we could start reclamation. The right person- someone who can figure things out. Not much help here, everyone's rather salty. ****ed Net is ruining humanity, even in the forums. That's alright, if everyone just wants to waste my time, I'll go elsewhere.

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    No thanks, plenty of other places to get the info, and I don't have to deal with superiority complexes. One thing I'm trying to cure myself of is, when someone asks a question and I can't give them a positive answer to help them along, I don't write anything. I'm becoming a better person for it, and I've discovered everyone who does anything can be told they're doing it wrong, by those who don't know. Einstein was told he was wrong by most of his peers. So was virtually everyone else regarding anything.

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    Have you checked out the gold refining forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    No thanks, plenty of other places to get the info, and I don't have to deal with superiority complexes. One thing I'm trying to cure myself of is, when someone asks a question and I can't give them a positive answer to help them along, I don't write anything. I'm becoming a better person for it, and I've discovered everyone who does anything can be told they're doing it wrong, by those who don't know. Einstein was told he was wrong by most of his peers. So was virtually everyone else regarding anything.
    Glad I didn't make the same mistake 10 years ago and stuck around after the initial hazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    I find the right person, we could start making money just with the stuff I already have, and with the space we've created, and all the good boards, we could start reclamation. The right person- someone who can figure things out. Not much help here, everyone's rather salty. ****ed Net is ruining humanity, even in the forums. That's alright, if everyone just wants to waste my time, I'll go elsewhere.
    Reminds me of an old Dilbert cartoon... they were gonna sell software for 1.3 million dollars, with a million dollar rebate... all they needed was one person to forget to send in the rebate and they'd be millionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    No thanks, plenty of other places to get the info, and I don't have to deal with superiority complexes. One thing I'm trying to cure myself of is, when someone asks a question and I can't give them a positive answer to help them along, I don't write anything. I'm becoming a better person for it, and I've discovered everyone who does anything can be told they're doing it wrong, by those who don't know. Einstein was told he was wrong by most of his peers. So was virtually everyone else regarding anything.
    The gold refining forum is free and it's mostly about e-waste. Read the book first book below so your on the same page as the other forum members.
    https://goldrefiningforum.com/

    Refining Precious Metal Wastes C.M. Hoke, hubiC - OVH Testing Precious Metals C.M Hoke, hubiC - OVH

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    Quote Originally Posted by medal View Post
    No thanks, plenty of other places to get the info, and I don't have to deal with superiority complexes. One thing I'm trying to cure myself of is, when someone asks a question and I can't give them a positive answer to help them along, I don't write anything. I'm becoming a better person for it, and I've discovered everyone who does anything can be told they're doing it wrong, by those who don't know. Einstein was told he was wrong by most of his peers. So was virtually everyone else regarding anything.
    Here's the thing:

    There's a difference between being straight up and telling you what you want to hear. Some of us have been where you are when we started out and moved past that. Experience has taught us about what works and what doesn't work.

    It's obvious that you have no intention of listening. That's perfectly okay. I'm like that too ... i have to do everything the hard way and learn from experience. That's why i suggested you accumulate a ton of circuit boards first. The experience of accumulating that ton of boards will fast track you on the whole e-waste subject. You'll figure out for yourself that the youtube guys are full of baloney. (It's more probable that they make their money from page views than refining.)

    Concept of the day : There's scrapping and there's refining. They are two completely different jobs. Asking a scrapper about refining is like asking a ditch digger about celestial mechanics.

    Two different things .... see ?

    The advise to go check out GRF is sound. That's where they talk about refining. Technically speaking .... that topic of discussion has traditionally been forbidden on this forum. You would understand why if you had been around for awhile.

    Seeing as you are new ... some things have to be explained to you.

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    I just figured we should let him "refine" the boards for the 2 bb's of gold.... who was that, that split the end result with whom ever refined his stuff, all he got was a bb.


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