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    I'm the new guy...but not a scrapper, a scrapper wanna be! FIRE EXTINGUISHERS

    Good afternoon, and thank you, thank you for sharing this forum. I've been reading posts for a bit now and decided it's time to introduce myself.
    Unfortunately, I'm not a scrapper although my wife might argue that I have enough true junk to start a business....but that's a story for another day.
    I'm that "safety guy." No, not the one that annoys the hell out of you, but the one who works hard to make certain that no one get hurt and that OSHA stays away. I'm the reasonable, efficient, effective safety guy - perhaps unlike the ones you have "had" to work with.
    Anyway, I've read all of the threads regarding FIRE EXTINGUISHERS and the recycling of these. On occasion, I've helped a client to dispose of an accumulation of these and let me tell you, it is tough to find a salvage yard to take them.
    So here's my question to the group:
    Most of our clients require that anyone doing any type of hauling or pick-up on their premises have the full complement of insurance - general liability, workers comp, auto, etc. Are there many of you scrappers that could meet these requirements? And if so, how do I find someone when I need you?
    And lastly, just to show I'm human and that I have bills to pay - if I have 200 or 300 hundred, or a thousand of various extinguishers, some full, some empty, none broken apart - what can I reasonably expect to get for these while still leaving enough meat on the bones to make it worth your while?
    Your insight will be greatly appreciated!
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    Fire exitinguishers would best be sold to someone for re-use. Scrap value is very little if any.

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    I think it depends on what the canister is made of. Some are steel and some are aluminum. But you probably know this if you have already read every thread here on the topic. The steel ones today have very little scrap value. The aluminum ones, I would guess, would be worth a couple bucks a piece AFTER they are broken down and most likely cut in half so the yard will even take them. Some have brass handles and tubing. It would take an awful lot of those to really add up to anything worthwhile though.

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    I'm the new guy...but not a scrapper, a scrapper wanna be! FIRE EXTINGUISHERS

    yes, there are some insured scrappers, one that comes to mind ran a junk removal business.

    with the labor required to turn them into sellable scrap, I doubt an insured company would pay anything for them.

    are they still rebuildable, or are they obsolete/not legal to refurbish?
    Currently looking for a job in or related to scrap/recycling. Relocation is possible for the right offer.

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    I'm the new guy...but not a scrapper, a scrapper wanna be! FIRE EXTINGUISHERS

    Call Illini Fire Equipment in Urbana, unless you already work for them (but it sounds like you don't) and just ask questions about the extinguisher business. They can probably give a fair assessment of the metal value and the work required to get it. Pressurized canisters are always a bear, especially if they number in the hypothetical hundreds, and Illinois' EPA does regulate them and forbid them from scrap without processing. My local extinguisher service takes them for free, remixes the halide, and scraps the cans. That doesn't make me any money but it's better than the "safety" guy destroying my livelihood because I'm stashing hazardous waste.

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    I have recycled fire extinguishers from a fire extinguisher company. I learned about it on the forum from another of our members. First I live in N.C. so things can be different here.

    I picked them up as a service and paid nothing for them. Most were empty but a few had the chemicals in them. I did sell the brass valves and Aluminum handles separated from the tanks.

    These tanks like all other tanks that hold pressurized material have a date stamp and can not be used beyond a certain number of years. Because of this all the tanks I received were not reusable.

    About half the tanks were steel and the other were Al. The price of Al was $0.50 and shred was $0.10. My rough guess-ta-mate was they were worth about the same amount of money.

    So to answer one of your questions perhaps free would be reasonable for a scraper to pick them up. This is in consideration for the effort of removing the values and anything else. IF they have chemicals in them then I would charge to get rid of them.

    A comment on your comment of companies requiring insurance to drive on to their business for a pick up. In that case with out a doubt I would charge you for the service of picking up and disposing of the fire extinguishers.

    The scrap yards I have done business with have not problem accepting fire extinguishers that are empty and the valve has been removed. Welcome to the forum and 73, Mike
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked


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