http://www.news10.net/news/article/1...-metal-thieves
pretty ridiculous i think. why dont they try to create jobs instead and maybe they wouldnt have these problems. what do you guys think?
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http://www.news10.net/news/article/1...-metal-thieves
pretty ridiculous i think. why dont they try to create jobs instead and maybe they wouldnt have these problems. what do you guys think?
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I think the ones in Wis were needed to stop the freakin scrap metal thieves.![]()
If it wasn't for the $ in $crap, it would just be.....
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So no change for florida Sweet!
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Pasco County, FL just passed a new ordinance on "restricted items" due to rise in metal theft.
I am expecting a big to do when I take in my hoard of coils and copper. Going to the yard in the morning to have a talk with the buyer to make sure I am able to comply,( I hate saying that!).
If it were not for thieves life would be so much better! People wonder why we jump all over stupid low down underhanded posts!
Edit; Forgot to mention, One subdivision has replaced all the street grates only to have them taken again one month later. Rent must have been due. Another subdivision had 14 AC units taken from empty homes. Luckily those guys got busted! They did create work but it was those two situations that broke the camels back and brought on the new ordinance.
Last edited by injunjoe; 02-14-2012 at 03:09 PM.
When the white man discovered this country Indians were running it
no taxes, no debt, women did all the work.
White man thought he could improve on a system like this. - Old Cherokee saying
I did not surrender, they took my horse and made him surrender. - Lone Watie
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Ouch thats gotta hurt.
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No not to bad for me I'm an honest injun!
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Unfortunately, as we all know, it does not help. The thieves are still going to steal that stuff, and then dump it in the woods if they can't find a buyer. Or sell it to someone who does not care that has the legit reasons to have said scrap.
I want to know what scrap yard is buying sewer grates without asking questions. That is where part of the problem lies. I suppose there is some guy that does municipal street work that has a reason to scrap these and brings them in after any rework job. Times are tight so he gets some punks to go around and gather some up for him. Who knows?
Sorry, it just boggles my mind that someone will steal and scrap something that they may get $20 for, but costs the home owner, insurance company, or city $1,000 or so to replace.
I hate thieves. And the people that buy from them are just keeping the problem going.In my life I have known many good old fashioned regular law abiding citizens that would never steal. However, someone comes along into the bar parking lot selling a truckload of brand new $1,000 generators for $300 that "fell off a truck", and they all go running to the cash station to get the money and buy one. If no one would buy them, then they would not have a reason to steal them. So the buyers of stolen goods are just as bad.
A guy I used to work for told me, never buy stolen tools or one day you will end up buying your own tools back. He followed it up with a story about his tools getting stolen one night before having a big work day the next day. He went to rush street and lo and behold his tools were being sold there with HIS social security number engraved into them. The police could not do a thing they told him. He bought them and went to work.
NOT buying anything that is stolen (or even smells of it) does help the situation.
/rant off Thieves suck. Period.
Figures the only thing florida is worried about is beer kegs. Injunjoe how far are you from marion county we have no such legislation here.
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Marion county is about 90 miles from me. I have about 1500 pounds of coil and I scrapped all the cabinets and other steel at the same yard I plan on using for the good stuff so I don't see a problem. Been busy with work so I have not had a chance to swing in and talk to them yet. I am now writing down the serial numbers down as we take the units out and having the home owner sign off on the ownership of said scrap along with a picture of the unit also on file.
If I have trouble with all my coil I have three counties that are not to far I can sell to.
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lets look at where this is all leading.
case in point: little girl opens her home packed lunch at school, she has a turkey sandwitch a bannana. potatochips, and a couple of other items. A government agent sees the items and notices she has no veggies, the government agent, takes the lunch (theft), and makes the little girl eat a school lunch ( oooo yum, yum, ) then bills the mother for the lunch.
The analogy: Government agent sees hatchet jack smashing away at a tv with his hatchet. oops thats a no no chips may fly, you may be injured, the injury may get infected, you may get gang green, you may have your arm amputated, all of this will cost money you dont have, so it directly affects others, by raised insurence and medical costs. so give me that dam* hatchet here is a plasma cutter, a shredder for the plastic case and we sill remove the crt for you, to a safe location in India. oh an heres the bill $4000. this is the way the government thinks. they dont spend their own money, they don't have any. it is your money they are spending. they just can not understand the more restriction the apply, the less money they can extract from you.
you may think this is off point but it is not, it is all relitive.
theft is theft, we already have thousands of laws covering that, every new law has unintended consiquences and cost you money. what new laws do is make the government s job easier, by beeing able to keep a closer eye on the citizenry, new law means simply less freedom.
Last edited by EcoSafe; 02-17-2012 at 06:33 AM.
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do you really want marines stationed in variuos places asking for your papers, well if you do , relax, its comming.
If law enforcement would concintrate on real criminals and crime instead of things like broken tail lights, motorcycle helmets. windows tinted too dark. people talking on cell phones, seat belts. and a million other stupid laws may be they would have time for thieves, and other criminals. just sayin.
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Love those Louisiana laws!!!!!
AMERICAN BORN, AMERICAN BRED! AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!
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no Kris Kringle im sick of the government saying its all meth heads , how bout its unemployed people trying to feed their familes
I hate when new laws are passed to help enforce existing laws. especially when all it does is infringe on the rights of people that aren't breaking the laws. It's already against the law to steal. Law enforcement and legal, quit playing with your shiny new M16s and political aspirations and do your freakin job!
I'm convinced in part that the reason so many useless laws get passed is so they can claim they're doing something about it. Doesn't matter that it won't curb the problem, just so long as they can say "hey, we did something about it".
I think these laws are in fact a good idea. I live in NY. I am in law enforcement in NY. I am beyond fed up with going to peoples homes and watching them muddle through 1 foot of water because all of their copper has been hacksawed out of their home after coming home from work. I am fed up with people starting their cars in the morning only to be missing 1/2 of their exhaust system from converter thefts. Lets not mention the scared to death homeowners who walk in on these crimes, unkowingly as they are in progress. I can assure you, and I will say this with 100 percent truthfulness, I have NEVER arrested a legitamately "unemployed" person for committing such crimes. I wish we could be everywhere at once, but we too are facing cutbacks on manpower just like the rest of the work force. We are cathcing these people, but these types of instances are occurring at an alarming rate. We cant keep up. These laws are being ammended and enforced to help law enforcement identify suspects when they unload the proceeds. This helps law enforcement hold the "less than honest purchasers" responsible as well. They know what they are buying and have even gone as far as to pay 1/2 scrap value for these items. Big deal, show your ID get a reciept and scrap easy brothers! Now, I have to get back to touching my m-16.
Last edited by thirsty; 02-16-2012 at 07:08 PM.
maybe if your 2nd amendment rights weren't trampled on then the home owners could actually do something about it themselves instead of waiting on an understaffed police force(socialism) to come take care of them. as the saying goes you can pry it from my cold dead fingers!
The 64,000 question: Have the laws reduced metal theft?
Wow, talk about coincidence. This article just popped up on Yahoo.
http://news.yahoo.com/scrap-metal-on...182724905.html
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