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    Increase in Lead prices coming?

    Was thinking about warehousing my Spent L.A.B.'s in case nuclear or some other industry picks up, and prices rise. Thoughts?



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    If you get enuff quantity to make a difference I would save them....I get just a few and sell them when they start to get in the way

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    Personally ... i see lead going the other way. There's not much use for it anymore. Lead is kind of a hazardous material and L.A.B.'s are even worse because they've got sulfuric acid in em'. You store em' outdoors and sometimes the cells freeze in the winter cracking the case open. Thaw comes in the spring and the acid gets all over the pile of batteries and ground underneath.

    You're probably better off to sell the batteries as they come in. Take the money and invest it in something that will make you even more money. Having your money working for you sure beats humping batteries around.

    As for nuclear ? It doesn't make good money sense in the long run. Takes about ten years to build a plant once construction begins. Even so ... our electrical grid won't be able to carry the additional load needed for heat pumps and electric cars. Cali already has rolling blackouts in the summer. They've been warning us here in the Northeast that we may be facing rolling blackouts this winter if we have an extended cold snap.

    Best guess ... we will be 20 - 25 years out to build additional generating and upgrade the grid to a point where we can sustain the additional load being placed on it.

    Also ... our electric jumped 30% last month. It was about 40.00$ a month increase for the average homeowner and thousands for commercial customers.

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    If lead prices do rise significantly you'll do better acquiring and storing lead than things that contain some lead. Battery prices are currently propped up because of being cores, not for their actual material value which is lower.

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    I dont really think its going to go up in the future. Ive talked lead with the guy that works for the hospital demo / remodel company and the scrap yard mgr. they both say new lead is too expensive now. the hospital guy says they save the old lead liner from x ray rooms and re use it and the yard mgr. said the same thing, cause he bid on some wall lead and a hospital out bid him for more than he would made off the profit.

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    ive been told that led is going to be low for the next few years as the push towards electric vehicles means a decrease in demand.
    other industries besides the auto manufacturing will still use/need it as before but still.....

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    I myself have mostly gotten rid of the batteries I would end up with as they are not something to have sitting around for a long time.

    In the last 35 years I have gotten rid of many tons of them.

    Don't come across many these days. But the few I do end up with go to the scrap yard for a little extra change and having rid of them.

    As for lead, I have plumbing, wheel weights and other items that are good enough for making bullets and such.

    Lead acid batteries are only worth hanging on to if they are good enough to use. I have a couple from vehicles I parked that had like new batteries in them. I trickle charge them now and then so they can be used for a jump or project. Problem is that neither one will fit in my vehicle I drive now as the battery goes under the back seat. What a place for a lead acid battery.

    Just some of my thoughts these daze on the subject.

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    There have been quite a few changes here in the states over the last few decades. Things that traditionally used lead have been gradually phased out in favor of something else that doesn't have lead in it. Different examples:

    1: Paint. We phased out lead based paint quite awhile ago.
    2: Bubble back TV's and CRT's. They had quite a bit of lead in them but we've pretty much gone to flat screens now.
    3: Plumbing solder. The plumbers use 95/5 lead free solder nowadays.
    4: Electronics solder. Lead solder was phased out twenty years ago.
    5: Plumbing brass like valves, fittings and water meters. They're being taken out of service at a phenomenal pace and going off to the scrap yard. Being replaced with plastics and lead free alloys these days.
    6: Bullets. Shotgun shot to be particular. It's illegal to hunt or skeet shoot with anything but steel shot in many places these days.
    7: Lead water pipes are no more. Even copper water pipes are being phased out in favor of PEX.
    8: Lead flashing for buildings. It's still available to buy but most contractors use sheet aluminum or copper on the high end jobs.
    9: Ship ballast. Lead is rarely used now.

    As scrappers ... we see lead and lead alloys like brass coming out of service at end of life. The thing we don't often see is that it's been replaced with something else that doesn't have lead in it.

    Long term prospects for recycled lead aren't good if there's so much less demand for it. Same with brass and even copper to some degree. Less demand will probably translate to lower prices for us at the scrapyard over the long haul.

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