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    dirty cast aluminum

    Hey Guys ,

    i was just wandering what is the price for dirty cast aluminum going for in your guys state / city ? ? Whats do you guys consider to be dirty cast aluminum ? need examples please..


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    Dirty Alum $.11
    Dirty Cast $.17 (this was lawn mower motors removed from the mower)
    Tucson, AZ End of December may be a few cents more now $.15 for dirty alum I think

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    Dirty cast Ali is anything cast that's got other metal or plastic stuck to it.
    Mostly its a broken off stud that cannot be removed or some other unremovable metal part that makes it, 'Dirty Cast Ali'.
    For instance I sold a sack of it a while back, in it was frypans with the elements still in the base, or any part of the element. Ali deckchairs that I could not be bothered with taking out all the Steel pins.
    Frypans with part of the handle still in it.
    Bits of a Cast Ali lawnmower with the hingepin still in it.
    Some Cast Ali car parts that had the odd bolt or stud still in it.
    A hard drive chassis with a broken screw in it.
    CRT degausser cable that turned out to be Ali wire, with the plastic still on it, not worth my time to remove it.

    One thing I got stuck with years ago, I thought I had cleaned down all my Ali domestic real good so there would be no contamination at all.
    As I left I looked at the docket to see I got 'contaminated Ali price for a sack of metal.
    Later I realised/found out that it was a fridge Ali sheet, the internal sheet that does the cooling.
    Where the Ali tube is welded onto it, there's a tiny thin Steel tube inside it where the weld is.
    He knew that because it had not been cut out, the steel tube was still in there, hence 'contaminated Ali' price...
    I knew there is a thin Copper tube around there and had got that out, but not the steel tube.

    Also, double check your Cast Ali lawnmower chassis metal price.
    One place gives me more $, about 33% more per Kg "because its got extra Copper in the Ali" (I think that's it) and they resell the Lawnmower Ali back to the foundry that casts these lawnmowers.
    That way, the foundry knows what's in the Ali already and does not have to change the composition of the metal much.
    The other place I sold them to gave me only 'Cast Ali' price and did not know that they can get better $ by selling direct to the foundry. I was expecting $2/kg, got $1.40/kg.

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    The yards I deal with in British Colombia give you a 2 percent leeway and will not dock you for a few broken studs left in a cylinder head or the little steel inserts used on some aluminum stud holes.

    Aluminum engine blocks with steel cylinder inserts cast into the block exceed the 2 percent grace.

    Small bits of plastic will not degrade my load as the plastic during the smelting operation used to pig scrap aluminum will not alloy with aluminum but rather burns off.

    Over the years have found that the smaller yards all expected the scale man to cheat on weight and grade essentially stealing enough from the gullible to pay his own wages for the day giving the yard owner a larger profit margin.

    The small yards could never make quota to sell to foundry's and steel mills.

    When I sold to the steel mill in Edmonton needed 20 ton loads on the scale and you just cant meet those requirements with a one or three ton truck.

    Whenever I had a big job with lots of iron would have my scrap cut and prepared then rent a semi. Pick the truck up at 5:00 pm and be loading during the night and deliver during the day having the truck back late afternoon if I only had one load otherwise back to the job site to reload catch a nap the following night being on the road before first light first on the scale at the mill yard.

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    In Clarksville Tn. extruded aluminum is 20 cents a pound and all other types are 10 cents a pound.

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    My yard also allows for small amounts of steel in with the cast.
    in fact I have only seen them check my Al once with a magnet and that was 5 or 6 Al computer cases in one load.
    you really got to push it for them to get picky.
    There ain't nothing wrong with an honest days work. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.- Old Man

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    dirty cast aluminum

    guys and gals ISRA has grading standards they set industry wide. Most all our scrap yards if selling on contracts follow these guidelines. keeps the buyer and seller honest and provides yes the ability to make prior arrangements or adjustments to pier to pier transactions.

    i always enjoyed looking at the irsa book, i wouldn't bust my buyers balls about it if i had a few pounds, but when we each get up to gaylord selling it's nice to see how the bigger more trust worthy businesses do this.

    You ever think about finding out what your buyer is making and helping them make more. Most people if you help them refine their process and we all do what is right, they will pay you more. If not and you really bring good data to their table..... may be time to leave.

    i found staying with buyers i shoved tons of business too gave me the ability to ask for more. We all must keep our buyers honest and call them out if we know something is fishy. Remember our process must be tight. i never felt comfortable calling out someone when my ship had little leaks.

    Praise God, that's you all by the way. We're the living christ. We can create and end life. i destroy many appliances lives etc. Our money and the good feelig from working for your self creates life too. In us and your family and friends.

    my battery business was a gift from God designed to teach me our creator is everything. Each battery or charge even, ever get a good zap from a battery. tell me they are not alive ! ever clean a item to upgrade it and it smacks you in the face or crushes your finger. sounds alive to Me!

    scrap on you angels



    jesus with stillwater

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    dirty cast aluminum

    alloy2 the 20 ton load sounds like a buyer selling to prime or some broker. They will take half copper or half wire and Al rims plus cast.

    The more you sell the more you can hold to sub grading.

    The al blocks if you sold trailers they would offer you to box up your al blocks with sleeves separate from your al blocks with out steel sleeves. They would also have killer prices on whole engines. whole al engines we get paid less but on assy they pay more. With intake, harness, and other stuff, I assume that's to a sherd operation that can process these al blocks fast and efficient.

    love irony al. Plus all the different types of cast.

    what we must do is make a coop. A large warehouse to store all our stuff and mix mine and yours and others by box and grade to fill these trailers and then when I get paid I'd pay out the difference between less than truck load and more.

    less a set fee for my warehouse cost n the money im paying you.

    What stops all of us from sitting on 40,000 loads 0, we need the money each day. so if I paid you for your load and added it to mine an and others boom u make more and so do I



    flip side is I could get the capital and just buy your stuff each day like any other yard and pay u as u drop. but then what separates me from any other buyers.. my grading, my personality, and my scale women.

    yes I'm going to hire the hottest women who enjoy work and can handle us scrappers! Our ladies need work too, I'm a respected business man who tells it like it is. imagine a hot chick grading your cats and copper. One who knows her **** and works on commission ad far as volume. Plus pays you cash from her bra when it's check out.

    I'm a past opiate addict and i know many woman who have been im powered by realising how they look can make them money. I'd like to embrace this truth and give them a legal fun means of communication with scrap men as a business buyer! much better than the traditional methods....... The awaking that a woman goes through under these situations must be respected. you go from strength and power using a spiritual gift given by god to get what you needed in a tough time, it's hard to go back to welfare or min wage job after.

    Remember im calling on my stars. women who hae been tossed aside because of this opiate disease. God prepped them to be able to handle the rigors of that job, just to survive on the streets.

    I'm promising these is enough money in scrap to let a strong powerful woman who desires to work again and use her gifts.

    I'm talking smile, weigh metals grade and Pay! done with class and never know you may fall in love. If one of my girls meet a awesome scrap king and said im leading stillwater to start my dream with him I'd start crying, considering where I'm going to pull my girls out from.

    don't lie we see our lovely mother Mary women working on the street and drive by. I'm offering a job and life change. her call but I need your business and prayers to make it happen.

    Aaron with Stillwater

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    dirty cast aluminum

    Btw scrap fourms great to be back, been almost a year since I've worked.

    feels like home. I've ran lots of stuff and I fall a lot, each time God picked me up, and now I realise he was training me to be him. A creator. We all are. let's create new life, new USA.

    I imagine a USA with our scrap staying here and sent to original manufacturer like thread mentioned and not shipped to China.

    For national security we must keep our metals all in the states.

    We create new jobs new smelters now new foundries and eventually new products. All American made and local by smaller micro forge or micro smelter fabs.

    We're a family of do it yourself men and women, many of you i know work with your son's and daughters and we're the last of the hands on, get her done mentality.

    We have tools and equipment and technology like duct tape no one else has.

    It's okay to work on the side while you on some assistance and eventually get taxes and this stuff done. We need to start somewhere and iv got a goal to do what I did with credit or lending and bank account. With out it I could not show all cost of fuel and food and cloths and oil or parts or paying a jumper to work with me. After learning about accounting I'd have gotten so many tax credits a an built credit I'd have cash from a bank to start my business.

    Plus I would have on paper my sales and data and could afford marketing etc.

    don't be tricked yes stay alive but in the future ill display and help you guys how to run a business scrap in America

    and stick up for our rights to provide income for our families.

    I'm on welfare now and it's great, but it's not my American dream.

    It helps short term an no shame collecting it I dream of doing batteries and cats and joking with yu all my customers again.

    my customer base became part of who I an each and every one of you.

    scrap is one big family let's please protect it from large corporate interests and ensure our buyer make it and stop this plague of receiving stolen properly.

    enough of pushing this on Us! I respect the police and know they have a job but jam up people for grand theft auto and serious millicous violent crime.

    If you recycle e waste the play station 2 or 1 that come in may have been thrown out 9 years ago but a 5 0 may see another in the shop that he remembers a case on........

    really you ever go to a transfer station an see the 50 pulling serials off the towns Free section.

    no you don't cause it's free and i pay for my stuff so instantly im a christian who is buying hot stuff, when you can drop off at night any ps2 at the salvation army.

    see what I'm saying I offer a better service I pay you cash, but I get the weird eye because of it. cash pushes business, do I'd and recycle im, not the police, but ill help them do a better job.

    For instance explain im the expert I this and look on cl or eBay for stolen stuff. no one is ripping off a ps1 and selling to me for 5 bucks.


    I did buy a wii new in a box from a well known customers, for 100 bucks, in Box all remotes and still works till this day. Many nite of playing bowling with my kids on it. I miss my girls.

    keep America great and scrap the world.

    contact me for anything

    legal issues opiate withdrawal or help tax ideas child parents advocacy

    if your working with ur kids and get flack u contact me any father child issues

    and contact me teach me something

    bad scales or people who rip others off and information like this if your doing that stuff contact me an confess privately with me and ill confess my past sins and explain how we can repent n do the walk change get that will make a grown man cry cause he will have changed so much.

    I cry each day knowing how awesome it is to be jesus.

    that means I live life to my heart how god taught me too by giving me the experiences he did.

    Now I get loud, toss tables and call others out with a rod of iron, my tounge when a person who like me is minding his business gets attacked for doing nothing but making the right moves.

    folks it happens and to you all the time, yu know it. Your living life and person steals from u or the scale your buyer used is off or the grade if different or a old promise is not kept but with out warning or recourse your stuffed to the back of the pile.

    stand up as Christians (sons of the creator, u ever look at the stars and wonder why we here) well christians are people like me who looked up and knew science and math and people and asked what it all mean etc .

    so that's god conscious thinking, who made me or this dram memory chip.

    That's christ in us, in all of his creations the world the summer the trees in our engine oil and our love for money. He has given us money as the language of the times. God loves money it's our best resource, imagine he loves equal weights and measures demands it, we don't cheat on weighing we don't cheat on payment for services rendered.

    without federal reserve note insured by Our awesome country the USA we would, be unable to pay anyone fairly for service or products rendered.

    Imagine setting how many apples or used tire ill pay your for your business u dropped that day or then u going to pay your mortgage in used car tires.

    so protect our federal reserve Notes.

    I will always pay in cash and if anyone as a problem it's not me or my customers.

    more cash we have in circulation the harder it is to go all digital, I find having federal reserve Notes makes me feel safer and i walk better when mi have few hundred or thousand.

    I'm broke now that just means I can't compound money or worse pay it to you or my other local businesses in the area, I can't take my kidd to any pace or bless even a stranger with a coffee etc


    my business and ability to provide for my family and thousands of customers, ers was stolen.

    I have confidence ill get it back,
    legally im privileged to be an American citizen that ran a legal licensed business for last 8 years.

    I've got a dream, man an 0 d women to use my situation to not just rebuild my life and my kids but to inspire you all the against all odds we can recover in America and yes receive damages arising from people who have hidden agendas that when carried out destroyed a families only income, stream and wore stopped 500k or more of cash from my hand to yours in federal reserve Notes.

    Please note my name it's aaron lystila

    contact me personally to hear my story, many people lie and we're caught on the wrong side and it's natural to Lie and cover but I live with a pure heart and loose no sleep over my daily walk. It's based off jesus walk, I help people and love and care for others, that may mean me being a man an calling out a person who had a part in stealing my business and kids.

    I'm just doing what christ does, tells truth and with everyone's bes interest in mind. That's the we hold to the rules of growth.

    you are who u are now and I love you all.

    The means u treat me like you should ill treat you better still, lol if you disrespect and lie on purpose knowing your causing malicious damage ill call you out personally lone first, that's when I find out, so I've been holding in 5 years of personal injury that my trusted friends enjoying doing, it pains me to just even tell the truth....

    Many may feel im judging them, and I am. I casually in person going to remind you what you said or did to me and explain it was wrong by all common law an moral law values.

    If that makes yu feel judged it's not me. I was doing my thing 5 years ago when a malicious act by the standards of our laws was committed and now I aaron lystila am telling you, then you judged me to be an inferior human being cause I was nice or you know my weakness, I'd like to hear an apology and listen to repentance, then see your walk change.

    Plus I've sinned just like you so ill offer my repentance on something in my past and prove my walk changed and in a verify able measurable way. Just to lead you to new life. This stewardship I've received from my of my larger buyers, yes we didn't talk about god but I realise now they were living like jesus and running these businesses right and truthfully with out holding a christisn standard.

    Many of these non believers were more truth full and more christ like in actions and coolness than some churches I went to 0.



    so scrap is my church, my kids are my church the earth is my church my wife if I had one would be m church.

    I'm just there to worship and thank and praise God the creator or the big bang and the alien who created gravity and sex and fishing and cats and copper ! All for aaron kingdom, what does he make for your kingdom , Btw when you answer that it mens you have a kingdom.... Now you a creator just like your dad and we're all soul mates. pray for me i need capital to start my business and a few solid witnesses for when I save my landlord the hassle and embarrassment of me opening up about what happened.

    I've keep shut for almost one yesr personally, so if ur around contact me in person to hear the deal from the only person involved. All else is unauthorised versions

    how's batt prices and any single scrapping woman, I'm always happy to trade spiritual gifts Btw. could be your metals info or favorite color.

    went from thousands of friends and customers and family never mind all my sins to nothing.

    Imagine overcoming all u ever felt was holding u back and then doing it plus Having the experience and wisdom but ur all alone........ It really does not feel normal with out work and my family friends

    ill train and trade spiritual gifts with anyone no mater of age race and back round.

    been in jail... me too let's talk and figure out a way to keep our men from jail and make jobs.... hit doing e waste or buying for me, if you a teenage ill mentor you boys or girls, I grew up with mostly women and children and have an uncanny ability to see through crap and cut to the chase, many times it's parenting that falls short, in my own life an 0 d family parenting was difficult.

    long post I wrote sorry to run over others but I got a story and a chance to help others and help myself.

    I learn from each interacting with each person.

    building new life. Stewardship

    liberty and ill speak for you ! you speak for me ! that's cross training

    aaron lystila
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    let's change the world with our fourms and knowledge that God gave you by just letting you breath each day.

    I pray ill get many more boring days to just think about all I've been called to do.

    Aaron

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    Interesting post but not sure if your far enough from your addiction to begin mentoring teens....I'm going on 7 years sober and although I do wanna give back its not quite my calling....at least not yet anyhow

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    so i offer to purchase .20 for dirty cast aluminum from scrap yards up to a semi load ( i take care of the transportation ) . Do you guys think i can get yards interested ?

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    They may sell you a semi load at that price as you are picking it up from them and paying cash could help.

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    hobo finds @ i think the hard part is to find that location / yard That’s willing to do business...

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    I would check with smaller more independent yards..........Corporate yards LIKE PSC here are probably locked into contracts..........Independent yards have their buyers but I have known them to sale me loads at negotiated price with cash in hand

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    If anybody is interested in doing business around TX or Ca states please PM me and we talk talk in person , will pay cash or course..


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