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    Ways To Perform Information Destruction On Hard Drives

    A few questions. Feel free to link me if this has been discused before.



    1) Thinking of the legalities of information destruction. Is there any other parts of a computer/printer/electronics where information must be destroyed aside from a hard drive?


    2) How do you destroy information? I'm really not interested in wiping a hard drive, what other ways are there aside from pulling a Kenny C and using a sledge hammer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah View Post
    A few questions. Feel free to link me if this has been discused before.

    1) Thinking of the legalities of information destruction. Is there any other parts of a computer/printer/electronics where information must be destroyed aside from a hard drive?


    2) How do you destroy information? I'm really not interested in wiping a hard drive, what other ways are there aside from pulling a Kenny C and using a sledge hammer?
    Interesting. Are you saying as a recycler you are obligated to destroy info? That's for #1. For #2 if you want to wipe out info without destroying the discs physically, you need to overwrite that information with something else.....and on all partitions. A reformat won't get that done, in fact on XP a format just moves some of the stuff you think you are deleting to an inactive partition on your drive that you can't readily see. CSI could still get that info, lol, but so could any competent geek.

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    Thanks for the response. I'm not sure about the legalities of information destruction but if you provide a certificate of destruction I would assume in the event of an identity theft you may be called up to produce evidence that no information could have been stolen from the hard drive that you were given.

    Is there a way to demagnetize the board? What about breaking it into two pieces, but still selling the board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebar17 View Post
    Interesting. Are you saying as a recycler you are obligated to destroy info? That's for #1. For #2 if you want to wipe out info without destroying the discs physically, you need to overwrite that information with something else.....and on all partitions. A reformat won't get that done, in fact on XP a format just moves some of the stuff you think you are deleting to an inactive partition on your drive that you can't readily see. CSI could still get that info, lol, but so could any competent geek.
    you are dead right on the hard drive part. It dose not delete the data when you delete it...it just labels it as open for data and then data is placed "ontop" that will remove the data below.

    There are programs you can buy that will rewrite the drive 7+ times. I think the army/gov requires a rewrite of 8 to 9times as any info beyond that will be useless and hard to "crack" but upto 3 times over write it COULD still be "dug" up and read is someone REALLY wanted to.

    So in short...your 100GB hard drive could hold up to 300gb worth of broken data...when its overwrite the drive will have around 900gb worth of data placed all over at random to kill the 100gb worth of data you are trying to "delete"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah View Post
    Thanks for the response. I'm not sure about the legalities of information destruction but if you provide a certificate of destruction I would assume in the event of an identity theft you may be called up to produce evidence that no information could have been stolen from the hard drive that you were given.

    Is there a way to demagnetize the board? What about breaking it into two pieces, but still selling the board?
    the board on the hard drive can be replaced...its the platters on the inside of the hard drive that you want to kill...I will make a video of this today...I have been needing to but never got around to doing it.

    Best way to do it tho....smash the motor into the hard drive that will bend them and the data will be unreadable

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOD_5220.22-M

    DoD 5220.22-M is sometimes cited as a standard for sanitization to counter data remanence. The NISPOM actually covers the entire field of government-industrial security, of which data sanitization is a very small part (about two paragraphs in a 141 page document).[4] Furthermore, the NISPOM does not actually specify any particular method. Standards for sanitization are left up to the Cognizant Security Authority. The Defense Security Service provides a Clearing and Sanitization Matrix (C&SM) which does specify methods.[5] As of the June 2007 edition of the DSS C&SM, overwriting is no longer acceptable for sanitization of magnetic media; only degaussing or physical destruction is acceptable.

    If you issue a certificate of destruction you better be destroying the drives.

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    7.62 X 39. Though, I remember Easy talking about how much he likes to run 7.62 x 54R through his Mosin.

    Seriously, though, people hit them with a hammer, drill holes in them, etc.

    I take drives all the way apart, scratch the platter, and then either sell them on ebay or scrap them with aluminum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch43 View Post
    7.62 X 39. Though, I remember Easy talking about how much he likes to run 7.62 x 54R through his Mosin.

    Seriously, though, people hit them with a hammer, drill holes in them, etc.

    I take drives all the way apart, scratch the platter, and then either sell them on ebay or scrap them with aluminum
    These were my thoughts. I know that may e-waste recyclers purchase hard-drive boards but what is the best way to destroy the information but still allow me to sell them? I plan on taking pics of each hard drive scrap for documentation (may be a little too much, but at least i can sleep well)

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    what if you cut the whole hard drive in half ? thinking of building a shreader to do this.

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    I have a different question. Can you still sell a board that sat out in the rain and now parts if it are rusted? Maybe this is a dumb question, but I need to know whether to pitch some stuff. Thanks.
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    makes no difference for scrap. gold silver and copper platnium and paladium dont rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah View Post
    These were my thoughts. I know that may e-waste recyclers purchase hard-drive boards but what is the best way to destroy the information but still allow me to sell them? I plan on taking pics of each hard drive scrap for documentation (may be a little too much, but at least i can sleep well)
    THe info isnt on the boards. Its on the disks inside. You dont need to cut the boards in half to sell the boards.

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    These were my thoughts. I know that may e-waste recyclers purchase hard-drive boards but what is the best way to destroy the information but still allow me to sell them? I plan on taking pics of each hard drive scrap for documentation (may be a little too much, but at least i can sleep well)
    Here is a breakdown of a 5" HD by someone, the breakdown of a standard HD would be the same. I take the platters and wipe them with the HD magnets. There will be nothing left to be retrieved after that. http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/showt...ht=Mechanic688
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