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    eBay 4.4 lbs gold fingers lot sold for $454.50. Why?!

    Here is the auction:



    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...4#ht_720wt_932

    How come this sold for so much? Based on what I am reading these chips don't generally sell for this much. Am I missing something?

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    That's $120. above market value, what are these people thinking bidding that high???
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    ****, wish I had 4.4 lbs right now!
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    remember, as people learn the littlest details of the refining business from escrap, they want to try it with home kits on their own. they will learn and someone else will buy the next load for a similar price. its crazy.
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    Must be related to the same folks on Craigslist that won't let a tower go for less than $500, because "there's a lot of gold in there".

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper View Post
    Must be related to the same folks on Craigslist that won't let a tower go for less than $500, because "there's a lot of gold in there".
    They might think they have close to a 1/2 ounce of gold! lol

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    when you say 120 dollars over market value you have to take it into consideration that the e scrap buyer is reselling to make a profit as well. This guy is eliminating the middle man (e scrap buyer) and making the extra profit himself

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    Thats actually not to far off. Fingers that are solid ( no large gaps) and double sided I am currently receiving 100 dollars a pound for. Expected average recovery is said to be approx 3 grams per pound. Gold is 56.04 per gram X 3 (grams recovered per pound) = 168.12 x 4.4 pounds = 739.72. Not counting the cost of chemicals thats a 285 dollar profit

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    Quote Originally Posted by directrecycle View Post
    Thats actually not to far off. Fingers that are solid ( no large gaps) and double sided I am currently receiving 100 dollars a pound for. Expected average recovery is said to be approx 3 grams per pound. Gold is 56.04 per gram X 3 (grams recovered per pound) = 168.12 x 4.4 pounds = 739.72. Not counting the cost of chemicals thats a 285 dollar profit
    Also not factoring in the cost of overhead, equipment, insurance, labor, taxes, waste disposal.... lets not put smoke in mirrors here and give people disillusion thoughts about how "easy" this money is. I'd hate to see someone jump on the recovery bandwagon without the proper equipment because of a "$285" profit.

    If you are going to give everyone the "market" value let them know the true costs of doing business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by directrecycle View Post
    Thats actually not to far off. Fingers that are solid ( no large gaps) and double sided I am currently receiving 100 dollars a pound for. Expected average recovery is said to be approx 3 grams per pound. Gold is 56.04 per gram X 3 (grams recovered per pound) = 168.12 x 4.4 pounds = 739.72. Not counting the cost of chemicals thats a 285 dollar profit
    I figured I would post some pictures in support for this argument.

    As a refiner, if I were to purchase fingers I would look for exactly what derectrecycle is talking about above.

    Here are some pictures of fairly common fingerboards. Some have smaller gaps than others, some are not close cut, it's pretty much a good example of what you find on ebay.







    Those are low to mid range fingerboards. Matter of fact, if I were buying this type of material on ebay, I would be very careful how much I spent because these lots, at 1lb each, will probably only yield between $80-$100 in actual refined gold.

    Here are examples of the type of material that was probably sold on the ebay auction this thread is about.





    If you compared and noticed the difference, you will see that while the boards in the pictures I posted first, are fairly common and good material to run for the right price, the boards I posted at the bottom have little if no PC board between the gold. You have 50%-100% more gold plating on those types of boards, than you do others.

    You can throw anything up on ebay and sell it. However, if you are a scrapper, and selling material on ebay, you will always make more if you explain the material and point out things like the fact the fingerboards are close cut with very little PC board. Or the fact that there is very little space between the gold leads.

    In my refining business, I command a premium for my refined metal for several reasons. First, because I always exceed industry standard, meaning 99.95 is industry standard for gold purity, yet my gold is always 99.999+. Same with my silver, industry standard is 99.95, and yet I always refine to 99.99+. By doing this the buyer knows I have put in extra work and effort. They are assured not only of the purity but that there is little if none metals like lead or cadmium.

    As a scrapper, if you take pride in your work in the same way. If you close cut your fingerboards and take the little extra time to explain that the gold content is more because of the lack of gaps between the gold leads, you can command a premium as well. If I were buying on ebay today, those are the type of keywords I would search for. I would be willing to pay a little more because I know the yield is twice as much.

    So although I cannot see the pictures of the material in that particular auction, I have to assume that they were close cropped. I already know that the space between gold leads was very little, if none at all.

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    Interesting. Thanks for the explanation. So what types of PCs are these generally from? I'm sure this is probably answered elsewhere in the forums but thought I'd just inquire quickly here. Thanks!

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    I guess the price went up, as last time I checked, it was $75/lb

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    these are fingers from assorted video/modem/sound/ and other cards. They trim with tin snips or in this case broke off with pliers.


    George - some people are offering to pay 75 dollars a pound and others are paying more. Those offering 75 dollars per pound are reselling for approx 100 dollars per pound. Those paying 100 dollars per pound are generally refining themselves.

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    now take that $454 and subtract ebay and paypal fees your now at $385 devided by 4.4 pounds and your at 87.50 per pound. So not much more then buyers are paying per pound but hey an extra 10 bucks a pound aint bad.

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    There is a likelihood it also may not yield whatever the buyer thought it would. ESPECIALLY if the trim is from PCI cards.

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    Im sorry but I would have a hard time buying from a guy called Speed Weenie. That just disturbs me a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMHN View Post
    Im sorry but I would have a hard time buying from a guy called Speed Weenie. That just disturbs me a little.
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    It was one bidder job. Someone over paid.
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    I predicted this in a couple of threads. As the UN reality tv shows and BS internet crap continues, those with no common sence are going to make it very hard on those of us trying to make a living. as I have said before I dont even gother to go to govdeals.com or any of those any more with people paying as much as $30 or more for junk computers. I have lately seen military scrap go for as much as 3 times spot, and washers and dryers go for $10 this is nutz. Just gotta wait it out till all the fools run out of money. Desperate people do desperate things.

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    Reminds me of the guys I play poker with going all in on 2-7 not knowing a **** thing.

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