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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    KZBell, so as an electric motor or CBM price at $0.25/lb. the choke is worth $0.06 and if you break the down the same coke and sell the copper as #2 at $3.00/lb it is worth $0.30?

    If your numbers are correct I see they need to be held and processed by me when I devise a process. I would think a tumbler would work. Mike.
    Sorry for the confusion...Using $.30 as a motor price and $3.00 as a copper price they were worth $.06 as is and $.25 broke down. Ferrite is brittle so one or two hits with hammer and it all separates quite easy. Dishpan holds the mess.

    The rod ones are easy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KZBell View Post
    Sorry for the confusion...Using $.30 as a motor price and $3.00 as a copper price they were worth $.06 as is and $.25 broke down. Ferrite is brittle so one or two hits with hammer and it all separates quite easy. Dishpan holds the mess.

    The rod ones are easy too.
    Not sure if you're including the price for the ferrite in the shred in that. Individually they don't weigh much, but fill a bucket with the ferrite scraps and you'll be surprised how heavy it is. It all helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devo View Post
    Not sure if you're including the price for the ferrite in the shred in that. Individually they don't weigh much, but fill a bucket with the ferrite scraps and you'll be surprised how heavy it is. It all helps.
    I did weigh and calculate but it was less then a penny, so I considered it going in the change jar, so to speak, and like you said it eventually adds up.

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    That is a considerable increase in profit for little effort. Nearly a 500% increase. Wish I could do that well with other items to pay off that big.

    KZBell, thats why I questioned the math, thank you for doing it. Mike
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    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    I knew I was holding my low grade boards for some reason. Now I know.

    It's funny - I know what all these little parts are and what they do. But looking at them from a scrap standpoint rather than from an electronics standpoint is completely different.

    Now, if I could just find a way of busting the big transformers without making a HUGE mess... Can't really do it outside because of strict HOA rules and nosy nellie neighbors (I got a letter because I had grass growing in the crack of my driveway.) Have to be careful inside because of wife, kids, animals, bare feet, etc. I think I'm going to try a 4# sledge on a floor punch in a homer bucket in the garage.

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    Too many to just crush with a pair of channel locks? They are brittle and break easily when pressure is applied down across the diameter (top and bottom of the O) and not on the edge.

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    Hey Mick to answer your question Arcoa pays .85 cents per lbs for yokes per thiere latest price list. www.arcoausa.com

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    Larger channel lock work too and would help contain the mess...I just prefer to "feet the buck" out stuff if it's an option.

    Wire could probably go as #1 and maybe even BB depending on yard.

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    KZ- all those chokes and inductors you are saying its better to seperate the copper off the ferrite or leave as is and turn in as cbm? I have been turning in as cbm with all the small transformers from tv's and such. I figure that it is time comsuming for a little bit of wire. Jmo
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    BC...a lot of the smaller stuff I toss in CBM bucket but this just had me wondering what the diff would be since there's naked copper with decent girth, just sitting there waiting to be plucked. Many different sizes but this is one you see quite a bit and takes about 30 sec to change it from basically a nickle into a quarter. Add in the therapy of hitting something with a hammer and it's the closest I'll ever coming to winning the lottery.

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    Lol... Yes a BFH is sometimes good therapy. Might as well beat the hell out of it when I am beating up those yokes too.

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    that black stuff around the copper is die cast metal. In dallas it sells for a little more than scrap metal. If you get alot of it its worth saving, but otherwise sell as regular metal. hope this helps.

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    winter time

    Quote Originally Posted by KZBell View Post
    BC...a lot of the smaller stuff I toss in CBM bucket but this just had me wondering what the diff would be since there's naked copper with decent girth, just sitting there waiting to be plucked. Many different sizes but this is one you see quite a bit and takes about 30 sec to change it from basically a nickle into a quarter. Add in the therapy of hitting something with a hammer and it's the closest I'll ever coming to winning the lottery.
    just remember it gets cold outside it gives you something to do in winter time. That little bit of copper really adds up after a while.

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    The rods I grab each end with a pair of needlenose and the ferrite falls out. That copper is surprisingly heavy when you get a few.

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    The black thing is Ferrite, its not a metal, its a ceramic with metal in it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite

    I put it in the rubbish as I don't consider it a metal, theres a mix of metals in it, not just Iron.

    Since its a ceramic I think its melting point would be so far above any metal that to put it in with molten metal would be just silly.
    It'd just sink (or float?) in the molten metal & end up in the 'cr@p' pile of smelting waste.

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    Straight from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(iron)

    Ferrite also known as α-ferrite (α-Fe) or alpha iron is a materials science term for iron, or a solid solution with iron as the main constituent, with a body-centered cubic crystal structure. It is this crystalline structure which gives steel and cast iron their magnetic properties, and is the classic example of a ferromagnetic material. Practically speaking, it can be considered pure iron.
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    eesakiwi-that should be going in with your scrap. I put it with mine at .12#

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    sooooo, is ceramic an iron? got several ceramic covered old stoves around, should they go with tin or with iron?

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    I put all my ferrite in 5 gallon buckets with screws and small clean pieces of steel (70-100lbs each sometimes) and my yard will give me white goods price for it .10-.15 lb. Like others said that adds up quick!

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    Ceramic is not an iron. I can't think of a good may to explain how and why it is used in ferrite core inductors. Think of it like this, it's a trash material (for our purposes) combined with the metal. Kind of like plastic attached to computer cases.


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