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    Taking a trip to Zimbabwe

    So my grandfather invited me on a trip to Africa. He needs a travel partner mainly to just remind him to take his meds and in case he has a medical issue.



    I know several buyers that ship CPUs to different African countries but none in Zimbabwe. Currency troubles, bread shortages and power blackouts might not make for a real great place to do business with. But like someone mentioned recently in a thread about scrap prices. If you can do business when things are bad you are poised to make good money when things pick up.

    Anyway over the next couple months I am going to be trying to reach out to potential buyers.

    I will have 2 free days in the capital city Harare. I really want to check out some scrap yards and hopefully meet with some CPU buyers.

    Local listings in Harare, core 2 duo, 2gb ram, 160gb HD for $70-110.
    4th gen i5 CPU 8gb ram $250-300.

    Going to have to get some shipping estimates.

    I would love to find a laptop buyer and take a suitcase full of them with me on my trip.

    Anyway...the safari part will be fun and seeing some local scrap yards will be a cool bonus.

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    What currency are you going to take? I think they don't deal with the USD. Also check out the local beers. Sounds like a fun trip!
    Better than the dump!

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    I can loan you 100 Trillion Zimbabwe dollars....

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    Do the prices you quote include the what the going rate is for the graft involved in doing business in most of Africa...? I wouldn't ship anything to a place like that unless I had some real currency in hand first-- make them trust you more than you need to trust them. Or don't ship anything there you're not prepared to totally loose. Just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    What currency are you going to take? I think they don't deal with the USD. Also check out the local beers. Sounds like a fun trip!
    Well up until about a month or so ago USD was more than welcome because their currency is so weak but USD was outlawed for local(in country) transactions. I am still looking into exactly what I need to have for currency. But i have an impression that places who don't do digital transactions they will probably still accept USD even if they are technically not supposed to.

    Local beers are a must. Also looking into maybe doing some fishing. Ya know maybe even one of those cool guided trips where the put the fish on the hook for you lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaRog View Post
    Do the prices you quote include the what the going rate is for the graft involved in doing business in most of Africa...? I wouldn't ship anything to a place like that unless I had some real currency in hand first-- make them trust you more than you need to trust them. Or don't ship anything there you're not prepared to totally loose. Just saying...
    The prices I quoted were retail so yeah that's included lol. I like to get $15 per unit on core 2 duo small form CPUs and $13 for towers +$6 for 2gb ram and 160gb HD. If I can make that I can send containers.

    As far as payment. Not 100% yet but there are escrow services for things like this. There economy is in what seems to be the start of a real rough spot going through an over night currency change.

    Anyway even if nothing comes of it, it will be good to maybe learn something about the CPU market there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 520 View Post
    So my grandfather invited me on a trip to Africa. He needs a travel partner mainly to just remind him to take his meds and in case he has a medical issue.

    I know several buyers that ship CPUs to different African countries but none in Zimbabwe. Currency troubles, bread shortages and power blackouts might not make for a real great place to do business with. But like someone mentioned recently in a thread about scrap prices. If you can do business when things are bad you are poised to make good money when things pick up.

    Anyway over the next couple months I am going to be trying to reach out to potential buyers.

    I will have 2 free days in the capital city Harare. I really want to check out some scrap yards and hopefully meet with some CPU buyers.

    Local listings in Harare, core 2 duo, 2gb ram, 160gb HD for $70-110.
    4th gen i5 CPU 8gb ram $250-300.

    Going to have to get some shipping estimates.

    I would love to find a laptop buyer and take a suitcase full of them with me on my trip.

    Anyway...the safari part will be fun and seeing some local scrap yards will be a cool bonus.
    Good luck with that.


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    Wow lol maybe I should keep up with foreign affairs a bit more. Thanks for that.

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    My opinion on dealing with a 3rd world country is you will need a local contact with some clout to make anything happen.....from what I understand is there is alot of gang activity there and they have their hands in anything that generates revenue.....I would tread lightly and carefully as I doubt they will be very welcoming to outsiders

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    Quote Originally Posted by 520 View Post
    Wow lol maybe I should keep up with foreign affairs a bit more. Thanks for that.
    In today's political climate I would not even consider exporting interrogated circuits as you never know with the medical, military surplus and microwave equipment that we come into contact with just might contain in its circuitry a military grade IC, that could be your worst night mare.

    I believe the engineer mentioned in this story knew full well what he was exporting,

    https://www.americanshipper.com/news...rce=other-news

    A 64-year-old electrical engineer who was recently found guilty in a federal court in California of attempting to export military-grade circuits to China could be sentenced to prison for the rest of his life.

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    The thread got me curious so i went searching youtube for a old video of what Zimbabwe was like after they inflated their currency by one million percent. I couldn't find the video but there were a ton of other hits on the search term Zimbabwe inflation.

    It's informative. BTW ... not all of the videos are negative. There was a nice on tourism in the falls area that was done recently.

    It's interesting to check out all the comments.It's an unfiltered version of how the people there really feel about America and the US dollar. It might be just a bunch of idiots running off at the mouth and blaming all of their problems on us. On the other hand ... it might be that they have a legitimate beef.

    Anyway they may not like us, but with 90% unemployment, they probably like our money.

    As it currently stands, you've got to convert US dollars to the new Zimbabwe dollars in order to do business locally ?

    It sounds like another scam with their history of inflating the currency. It would be different if they had a better rep but i wouldn't trust those guys.

    Maybe you could do an end run around the law with some kind of barter & trade agreement ?

    Maybe it would be legal for them to pay you in a hard currency like gold or silver coins / bullion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    The thread got me curious so i went searching youtube for a old video of what Zimbabwe was like after they inflated their currency by one million percent. I couldn't find the video but there were a ton of other hits on the search term Zimbabwe inflation.

    It's informative. BTW ... not all of the videos are negative. There was a nice on tourism in the falls area that was done recently.

    It's interesting to check out all the comments.It's an unfiltered version of how the people there really feel about America and the US dollar. It might be just a bunch of idiots running off at the mouth and blaming all of their problems on us. On the other hand ... it might be that they have a legitimate beef.

    Anyway they may not like us, but with 90% unemployment, they probably like our money.

    As it currently stands, you've got to convert US dollars to the new Zimbabwe dollars in order to do business locally ?

    It sounds like another scam with their history of inflating the currency. It would be different if they had a better rep but i wouldn't trust those guys.

    Maybe you could do an end run around the law with some kind of barter & trade agreement ?

    Maybe it would be legal for them to pay you in a hard currency like gold or silver coins / bullion ?


    Maybe, just maybe. Not likely good advice to circumvent US sanctions. There's a new sheriff in town, backed by the US military. You might want to rethink your advice before making a public comment on how to circumvent sanctions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
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    Maybe, just maybe. Not likely good advice to circumvent US sanctions. There's a new sheriff in town, backed by the US military. You might want to rethink your advice before making a public comment on how to circumvent sanctions.
    To be fair I believe he was talking about getting around Zims ban on the use of the USD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    The thread got me curious so i went searching youtube for a old video of what Zimbabwe was like after they inflated their currency by one million percent. I couldn't find the video but there were a ton of other hits on the search term Zimbabwe inflation.

    It's informative. BTW ... not all of the videos are negative. There was a nice on tourism in the falls area that was done recently.

    It's interesting to check out all the comments.It's an unfiltered version of how the people there really feel about America and the US dollar. It might be just a bunch of idiots running off at the mouth and blaming all of their problems on us. On the other hand ... it might be that they have a legitimate beef.

    Anyway they may not like us, but with 90% unemployment, they probably like our money.

    As it currently stands, you've got to convert US dollars to the new Zimbabwe dollars in order to do business locally ?

    It sounds like another scam with their history of inflating the currency. It would be different if they had a better rep but i wouldn't trust those guys.

    Maybe you could do an end run around the law with some kind of barter & trade agreement ?

    Maybe it would be legal for them to pay you in a hard currency like gold or silver coins / bullion ?
    Yeah the new admin in Zim to me is clearly implementing a currency to try and control the exchange rate while they inflate it. Short term funding of gov before the currency undoubtedly fails. Kinda hard to run a gov when your expenditures are 30% of the GDP and you can't print your own money because people are using USD.

    I would prefer no Gov created money other than to coin real currency. But hey. You have to exploit your citizens somehow! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    The thread got me curious so i went searching youtube for a old video of what Zimbabwe was like after they inflated their currency by one million percent. I couldn't find the video but there were a ton of other hits on the search term Zimbabwe inflation.

    It's informative. BTW ... not all of the videos are negative. There was a nice on tourism in the falls area that was done recently.

    It's interesting to check out all the comments.It's an unfiltered version of how the people there really feel about America and the US dollar. It might be just a bunch of idiots running off at the mouth and blaming all of their problems on us. On the other hand ... it might be that they have a legitimate beef.

    Anyway they may not like us, but with 90% unemployment, they probably like our money.

    As it currently stands, you've got to convert US dollars to the new Zimbabwe dollars in order to do business locally ?

    It sounds like another scam with their history of inflating the currency. It would be different if they had a better rep but i wouldn't trust those guys.

    Maybe you could do an end run around the law with some kind of barter & trade agreement ?

    Maybe it would be legal for them to pay you in a hard currency like gold or silver coins / bullion ?
    blood diamonds?

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    I googled gangs in Zimbabwe........Here is a link to first article

    https://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbab...eport-20181119

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    Quote Originally Posted by 520 View Post
    So my grandfather invited me on a trip to Africa. He needs a travel partner mainly to just remind him to take his meds and in case he has a medical issue.
    Good to hear that your Grandfather is a man who enjoys a good adventure and that he thinks enough of you to ask you along but as you have clearly stated he is of an age where memory could be impaired.

    Africa today is so much different from the old,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks

    South African farm attacks (
    Afrikaans: plaasaanvalle) are violent crimes, including murder, assault and robbery; that take place on farms in South Africa,[1][2][3][4] targeting farmers, who are usually white, and farm workers, who are usually black.[2][3] The term has no formal legal definition, but such attacks have been the subject of discussion by media and public figures in South Africa and abroad. There is insufficient data to reliably estimate a murder rate for South African farmers.[5] South African government data indicated between 58 and 74 murders on farms annually in the period 2015–2017; out of an annual murder count of 20,000 total murders in South Africa

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