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    As exciting as it was to see all these in one place, it's not hard to imagine the mess, and we're pretty close to other houses. I also happen to not own a large bandsaw, almost bought one for this, glad I looked at them first, mostly steel. There's more than you see in the picture.



    We were just going to call the dump and see what the fee for these is, then ad a buck or 2 a piece to that, or more, then give him that price. No discharge no nothing, throw and go and we make dough, lol. If he takes it cool, if he doesn't we leave, happy and free.
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    I picked up a couple of pickup truck loads of these from a company that supplies fire extinguishers to businesses. The extinguishers had expired.

    The extinguisher company had recovered all the dry chemicals before I got the extinguishers. The dry chemicals don't expire like the extinguishers do.

    About half of them were Al the rest were steel. Good luck with the land fill I am interested to find out what they say. 73, Mike
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    Okay, so these things are made to be discharged valve up. That means there is a tube down to the bottom as the dry chem is pushed out. It may very well be that if you turn them over and rapped them, the dust will settle in the top of the extinguisher. At that point, you may be able to discharge the pressure without blowing dust all over. Once the pressure is gone, you can take the top off and dump the chemicals in the trash.

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    Kiddie fire extinguishers with plastic handles have been recalled. If you go to their website (kidddie recall ) they identify which models are recalled and a place you can report which ones you have. If you have a recalled one they will replace it free, although they will want the old one returned to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starbits View Post
    Kiddie fire extinguishers with plastic handles have been recalled. If you go to their website (kidddie recall ) they identify which models are recalled and a place you can report which ones you have. If you have a recalled one they will replace it free, although they will want the old one returned to them.

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    Thanks for that info I need to check mine around the house...



    I had one that was on the list!
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    Better than the dump!

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    arent the handles/valves made of brass?

    i would take the time to empty out each one and separate the steel or aluminium from the brass- that many will take a while but it should be worth it.

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    Wow thanks for the recall info, maybe I could empty them upside down, break the handles off, take them to the dump, and sell any replacements from recalls! I didn't get around to calling the dump today so we'll see.
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    when discharging remember to have the thing on the ground , do not lift up as the static can build up and shock you !!
    https://opexshare.doe.gov/lesson.cfm...lectric-Shock/
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    If the extinguishers are still pressurized, before you throw them out, check with local rocket clubs. They may be happy to take them off your hands at no cost to you (thereby saving you dump fees). They do not care if they are expired as long as they are still charged.
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    The landfill doesn't want them besides the standard 1 or 2 at a time, and the scrap yard obviously wants them cut. Just need a company that will take bulk hazardous waste, having touble finding that, I was gonna call WM tomorrow.

    Edit: Reading corycouch's posts, getting some ideas, Still not sure if I actually wanna do this, but if so I have a little cyclone dust collector for a 5 gal bucket (dust deputy) that you use with a shop vac, then bucket to bag or rig it to go directly into a bag, and just put them in the trash. I also have a circular saw with a metal blade, and just found some nice recip blades (the "extreme" diablo ones), either way I wouldn't have to worry about opening size on a chop or band saw.


    Sounds good in my head anyway, lol.
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    If you turn it upside down (it has a feed tube that runs to the bottom) and press the handle just very slightly, you can release the pressure without the dry powder coming out. Do it outside, cause you'll still get a trickle of dust but its minimal. Once the pressure is off you just unscrew the top. Pour the powder out and you're done. The powder could be re-used, I take it to the fire station and we put it in zip lock baggies, to toss down chimneys during flue fires.

    If you breathe the dust you'll think you're dying, but it really wont hurt you, its just salt. I've eaten plenty as a fireman, and now as a fire inspector.

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    Once you get the pressure out yards around here take them with the top valve unscrewed so no need to cut. I wonder if you had a scrap car you could spray them in, it could keep most of the dry powder in the scrap car...

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    Couple of things to add:

    1. When working with pressurized cylinders, always wear safety goggles and/or face shieldshield. Sometimes the gauges malfunction and they are or not charged according to the pressure gauge.
    2. Wear a dust mask when working with dry chem FE's. If you ever worked with the powder dust, you know what I mean!
    3. You can look up a FE model number to see of the valve material (brass, aluminium, etc.). This can help you, when you sort through them. Amerex brand FE's have an online sales literature, that list the valve material (chromed brass, aluminum, etc.)
    4. Turning a dry chem FE upside down, slowly twisting the valve until you hear the pressure releasing, can be done. Best to turn the valve partially from the cylinder, leave it alone and it will eventually depressurize.
    5. If you have charged dry chem FE's, contact your local fire fighter training program (community colleges have them) and the local fire dept. to see of they will utilize them for firefighter, public fire education, etc. sessions. This can be a win-win, as they can use the FE's for training and they discharge the powder for you.
    6. CO2 FE's are notorious for static shock, when discharging them. I discharged one at a dumpster and I got a shock. If you have to discharge them, discharge them away from metal objects.

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    I don't know if anyone else said this yet but maybe try calling a small time fire extinguisher sales/service guy. theres one around here that would probably take all the chemicals out of them for you. or just buy the extinguisher. try doing research on how the companies like that take the chemicals out of them if your gonna do it your self. anything is better than sending them to the dump. you could even just throw like one or two of them in every fridge you get until there gone and let guys like me breath in all that crap when it comes down the picking line. thats what everyone else does.

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    So I now have the number of a guy that takes them from the other dump (that could only take 200 lbs a month from me if I was a business in that county, which I am neither) for free, I think. The plot thickens...

    Basically I could just run them from a to b charge the company $2 a piece maybe more if he doesn't mind paying for pick up, and the other guy is happy cause he gets free delivery.


    or..if he would take only the powder. I collect the powder, he takes it all for free, I scrap, still charging to remove from point a. I just don't think i'm actually gonna break these down, I want to, but i'm getting busier.

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    Basically I could just run them from a to b charge the company $2 a piece maybe more if he doesn't mind paying for pick up, and the other guy is happy cause he gets free delivery.
    thats how I would go about it. If you get the scrap back great but if not oh well your still making something.

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    My replacement came yesterday and I sent the recalled one back today! Thanks for the recall info... And what happened with all the ones in the first post? Let us know!

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    They don't want to pay for removal, they're gonna have to find another scrapper that thinks its worth it.


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