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    Copper as wire with casing or stripped getting paid

    I finally I did a hands on visual , scrap yard scale pay out - No guessing - No hypothetical math - The real pay out deal .
    I carefully took same wire Measured length to length First batch was a 55% type - Second batch was a 30% type
    55% was 2 pounds & had a pay out of $ 1.78 - - 30% was 2 pounds & had a pay out of .86 cents
    Naturally the stripped wire started out same weight and Oddly each one ended up being one pound each cleaned earning $2.25 each
    I did not weigh at home as I figured the scrap scale is the reality no matter what
    There could be a discrepancy that such low weight at a Scrap yard scale could average out to closest dominator that once you get to some
    heavy weight it matters not . Regardless it's clear to me based on the scale at Weissman's stripped wire pays out better
    I had a PM with a member who felt that it was equal based on getting paid for the non copper weight of wire

    I am pretty sure the scrap yard scale is not best for low - low weight , but the pay out percentage gain for clean seems high enough to cover discrepancy
    Since I did not do an 80% yet that might be the type worth leaving as is That will be my next test
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    Interesting and you are absolutely correct that it's their scale that we paid on.

    Did you keep track of how long it took you to strip the wire? Let's scale that up so if you had had 100 pounds of wire, how much time would it have taken? That's where the time value comes in. Could you have been doing something else during that time that might have paid better? Like spending time with a wife, child or grandchild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperHeadAKA View Post
    I finally I did a hands on visual , scrap yard scale pay out - No guessing - No hypothetical math - The real pay out deal .
    I carefully took same wire Measured length to length First batch was a 55% type - Second batch was a 30% type
    55% was 2 pounds & had a pay out of $ 1.78 - - 30% was 2 pounds & had a pay out of .86 cents
    Naturally the stripped wire started out same weight and Oddly each one ended up being one pound each cleaned earning $2.25 each
    I did not weigh at home as I figured the scrap scale is the reality no matter what
    There could be a discrepancy that such low weight at a Scrap yard scale could average out to closest dominator that once you get to some
    heavy weight it matters not . Regardless it's clear to me based on the scale at Weissman's stripped wire pays out better
    I had a PM with a member who felt that it was equal based on getting paid for the non copper weight of wire

    I am pretty sure the scrap yard scale is not best for low - low weight , but the pay out percentage gain for clean seems high enough to cover discrepancy
    Since I did not do an 80% yet that might be the type worth leaving as is That will be my next test
    You are weighing wire on a scale that has a 1 pound accuracy. Let's just assume that both the 55% and 30% were both actually exactly 2 pounds. The 55% would yield 1.1 pounds. The 30% would yield 0.6 pounds. Both would be rounded to 1 pound. If you are going to start doing analyses like this, you should get a scale that measures in grams.

    Stripped wire will always pay out better. Wietsman has a large high tech chopping line in Owego to process all the wire sold to them. It costs them money to produce what you got by stripping.

    Once you have an accurate analysis of the wire you have, you need to figure the value of your time.
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    Wile there is some proof here - A weight comparison of 25 pounds would absorb the 1 pound accuracy . As a scrapper for years I have sensitivity of touch
    (and I think I am not alone on this ) the 55% batch felt heaver in my hand I made the batch very haphazard meaning yes each batch of 55% was the same and each 30% was the same , but the chances of the 55% & 30% weighing the same ? - - I wish I weighed it first cause it might of been an even more interesting discovery
    I am inclined to think that 1.6 or 1.8 might weigh as a pound - in a year the metal shop scale weighing Cu Al Brass etc. with a .06 discrepancy per weighing towards scrap yards favor could be like getting 22,000 pounds of free metal ( even more ) They cant have scale calibrated to have a loss of 22,000 pounds a year .
    Today I was paid $135 for CU AL Brass Batteries Steel - I'm just glad the scrap yards are here for us .
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    Quote Originally Posted by numbers View Post
    Could you have been doing something else during that time that might have paid better? Like spending time with a wife, child or grandchild?
    With different planing in life , Yes might have had a job that paid better . But for my personal existence now a bottomless pit to take my money so every dollar counts

    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    Once you have an accurate analysis of the wire you have, you need to figure the value of your time.
    Value of time - I did my self in , see I collected so much that for the sake of sanity to get my life back
    I have no choice but to derive the highest pay out

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    For what its worth I usually make around $20-$100 an hour with my stripper machine. But unless you get it for free you really gotta know what your doing to prevent yourself from loosing money.

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    yes good $ per hour




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