This is my new project. I'll be clearing the lot. I'm thinking some will be good for scrapping, some of the stuff people would take for free, some of the stuff may actually have value and the bulk I'll need to pay to get rid of.
Any input and advice is appreciate. Tell me what's what.
Last edited by auction; 01-06-2017 at 07:54 PM.
Are you experienced at demolishing buildings? What type of equipment do you have? What are you going to do with all the debris? I sure hope you are getting paid a decent amount for the job, as there does not appear to be anything of much value there.
Here in California, people would snatch up that old wood in an instant to make their shabby chic crap...the corrugated metal roofing too.
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That pile of vintage toilets and sinks should have value (not the broken ones), especially the older toilets where the bowl is separated from the tank by an elbow. The tanks will normally mount to the wall, sometimes up high.
I don't know about where you live but our local volunteer fire department would jump at the chance to conduct training in a house like that. I watched our fire department do that in a 2 story house once and by the end of the day there wasn't much left.
You have a lot of good looking wood sitting there ... windows, bricks, fuel tanks, wood trim - all sellable.
If the house has a hardwood floor, that is also sellable ( depending on wood species - $0.10 to $1.50 per liner foot ) .
You may want to sort that pile leather tack out and see if any of it is sellable at a livestock auction, even if it's moldy .
Edit: toilets are illegal to sell used in some states, so please check local laws if you decide to do that.
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I think you have to decide the value of your time. It's mostly standard stuff. Copper,Brass, Aluminum.
Aluminum: Storm windows, siding, gutters, downspouts, flashing,etc.
Copper: Water pipes, maybe a copper water heater, possibly copper DWV as it branches off the cast iron, all the wiring, propane lines, heat pipes if it has forced hot water heat, fin tube.
Brass: Brass valves, plumbing fittings, faucets, possibly DWV fittings, different fittings on the boiler if it has one.
The oil fired furnace or boiler might have value if it's not more than ten years old.
The weather vane up on top of the barn.
Check out the hardware on the sliding doors. If it's antique cast iron it might have value.
The concrete slabs might be good to build upon later.
A well & septic system is worth protecting when heavy equipment is on the property.
Save any hardwoods. Trees sometimes add value to a property.
The roof line on the main part of the house is still running pretty close to true. Not seeing any major structural problems from the photo. A rehab might not be completely out of the question but they do tend to take on a life of their own. Sometimes the cost to do a rehab is equal to building new. You could pull off some of the siding to see if it's hiding some ugly. Check the foundation. If it's dry you're good. If it's damp or wet you would be better off to demo the house. Check for insect damage like wood borers.
Kinda the same thing on the barn. It could be a judgement call if there's not a lot of rot in the sill plate. If you tore off all of the things that were added on over the years the main structure might / might not still be okay.
I suppose it all depends on what you plan to do with the property.
Why anyone would want to destroy it all is beyond me. Especially that barn. To each their own I guess.
What Auction is saying seems perfectly reasonable to me.
The best way i've found to explain it to people is to say that old houses are like old cars. They already understand the reasons why it's come time to ship their old car off to the junkyard. It's really no different with a house.
I've been doing rehab and repair work for something like 35 years now. I try to be honest with my customers from the outset and politely explain that they're throwing good money after bad with these old places. Most of the time it falls on deaf ears. As long as they've got the money i'll happily turn that that old piece of junk into a thing of beauty if that's what they choose. I know i've done the right thing by them.
I've had more than a few come back a few years later after the project was finished and tell me i was right all along. It turned out to be an expensive life lesson for them and they're suffering with a bit of buyer's remorse.
There's no satisfaction in " I told you so" with the good people. Most of the time i just feel bad for them and try to sympathize.
The ones that were assh*les through the whole project ? Well let's just say there's a certain grim satisfaction. I would never rub it in but they got just what they deserved.
Last edited by Scrappah; 01-07-2017 at 09:01 AM.
Unless the barn is falling in or not sound I would save it. Just my 2 cents. Places like the one pictured here regularly sell for over 100k around my parts, if you got it cheap enough to bull doze everything you did alright man
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You should find some interesting things during the work for sure. Hope it turns out great for you!
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This is an awesome property. The house looks pretty rough tho.
Pic 1 has that tower roof piece; i would try to save that as it would have good resale value.
The brick chimney looks to have good fired bricks. Save as many as you can if possible. Good resale value in older bricks especially if they have a stamped manufacture. Do some research.
The open bay shed has potential for outside storage or car port and looks still sound. I wouldn't demo that. If you do, save all the metal roofing, it has value in reuse or resale.
The outhouse, burn it.
The first picture on your third post with the windows look to be stained glass or some kind of colored glass. Those could be a small fortune. Save them and as much of the frame and sash as you can.
The toilets, i don't know. The older ones may have value.
The big blue barn i wouldn't demo. It looks good and could be used to store building material and equipment for and demo or renovation projects you are doing. A building like that, even in rough shape, would cost tens of thousands to replace but may only need a few thousand to repair. Start with the roof and work your way down.
WOW, don't toss that farm sink. You will be surprised on how much that is worth.
The horse tack may be re-purposed but the money is in the cabinet its in. Iv been going to furniture auctions and see these go for stupid money. Old farm cabinets and cupboards are crazy money. Save it as much as possible.
The last picture is just a small out building and i see no need to demo it. Easily can move it to fit your needs.
Scattered through some of the pictures i see old tin pales, glass jugs, old door hinges, and lots of just old farm "junk". This stuff has good value and should be collected up. All this type of stuff would be good flee market items or auction stuff.
I also see a ton of rough cut lumber in almost all of these buildings. Its been said before, this wood has a ton of value. Don't have someone just come in there with a dozer and smash it all up. Take some time and pull beams, planks, windows, old doors and hardware. There are businesses that do this everyday that pay very well.
Looks to be a huge project, I wish you luck and keep us up to date on what you do please.
I tend to agree. I have spent my working career remodeling homes for people. One thing I have learned is that you cannot make assumptions from a few quick photographs. There is no way to know all that could be wrong in those buildings. Add to that personal preference. Many folks buy a property for the property itself and have no interest in the buildings that are on it. I cannot tell you how many perfectly good homes I have seed bulldozed to be replaced with another perfectly good home.
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