Suck it up - Page 2

Quote PJ

The people in this country who used to work and pay taxes aren't working and aren't paying taxes.

Scrappah:

Hummm .... Maybe that's not such a bad thing. I'm going to make an assumption that people are discouraged, that things aren't going well, and that the leadership coming out of congress is poor.

Many of us feel that congress has been grossly irresponsible in the way it spends OUR money.

One way to FORCE them to behave better is to cut off their money supply. That will bring them to their knees.

Originally Posted by pjost

I realize the point of this thread is get off your a$$ and get to work/adapt or die out/quit whining.

I want to whine a little bit.

We here at SMF (I think) ARE all working and ARE all trying to adapt!
No offense intended JunkFreak

The numbers came out yesterday or the day before, and the workforce participation rate in the U.S. Is at a 38 year low.

Google 'workforce participation rate' there's plenty to read there.

The people in this country who used to work and pay taxes aren't working and aren't paying taxes.

We who actually ARE working and ARE paying taxes have to pick up the slack because cuts in government spending don't go over well.

Take a look at the taxes you pay. Everyone should have to pay taxes QUARTERLY in my humble opinion. Getting a little taken out every 2 weeks stings, but you don't realize the actual BURDEN it is until you pay it all in one big chunk quarterly.

Somebody has to pick up the tab for all the programs and alphabet soup agencies that YOU pay for.

So yeah, get off your A$$ and get to work. Uncle Sam needs you.

Edit: done whining now. Have a good weekend

No offense taken.
However, it was not my intention to suggest that any member doesn't work hard.
Let's be real, you can't scrap without working hard..

My intention is to motivate, like I've been motivated by members here.
I believe there is a solution to every problem. If I can contribute something that helps another member that's great. That's what this forum is about, for me.

I am encouraged every time I log on to SMF. Learn something new everyday.
Even from rants or "whining", as I did from your post.

Originally Posted by Mechanic688

Not to hijack too bad but my yard I frequent a lot says they are just going to stockpile till prices come around. He opened up a few more acres of woods and is bringing in stone for driveways. He has already stacked as hi as he can on the non ferrous piles and when the price hits his magic # he'll be hauling by the semi load. He has a rather large trash and roll off service that pays the bills.

Mech, this is basically what iam doing.
I am lucky, I have land to stock pile..
I sell just enough to pay my help and keep the trucks running.
Scrap is not my main income, iam fortunate in that. One day ,hopefully, it will be.

Meanwhile I continue to learn, and now scrap is giving an income to another man and his family. It may not be much in the grand scheme of things, but its better than minimum wage, and he seems to enjoy the work.

With prices down I am stunned by the amount of scrap coming in to me - probably 3-4 times the amount as when prices were stronger. My situation allows a moderate level of stockpiling, but I am quickly reaching my capacity to manage and store.

Feels like I'm playing a game of chicken, and someone is about to make a pot pie.

Enough whining. Back to work.

same here record profits with so many dropping out because of a lack of knowledge or lack of wanting to actually work hard but there is so much out there right now trying to collect is getting even harder to do. gas prices are making it even easier to travel farther to pick stuff up today they dropped to $2.17gal I take all my light tin/scredd local here at a penny a pound and after overhead I make about $4avg trckld and its unlimited with all of it passed by. now awhile ago I teamed up with other scrappers as prices keep dropping to work together to send out gondolas of #1steel and 2-3 heavy and still am getting 7-9cents a pound down from 10-13 but still well worth the effort.
that's just the bottom of the scale though mostly steel is just what pays for me driving around finding the better of stuff like copper alu motors and so forth. then of course the bread winner of everything is electronics from resale to scrapping theres always plenty and always so much to do

I second calling ourselves recyclers, not scrappers.
In terms of talking with plumbers and other blue collar workers versus talking to doctors and Lawyers I don't see much difference. If course it's obvious that those in the ranks of the docs and Lawyers have made themselves substantially fancier than those who labor with their hands by charging inormous fees. But I have a cousin who has future doctor written on his forehead but is helpless when it comes to working with his hands. That sums it up. Everybody lauds the docs and Lawyers because of the "advanced" education they received. But it takes a certain skill and learning to be able to have the roughness needed to deal with a nasty meesed up toilet or washer hookups and still maintain the ability to get the job done right, no leaks. That unfortunately isn't something you can't learn in a university so we don't have the ability to charge enormous fees for our top notch labor with our hands. So I don't care who I talk to. If anybody plumber or doctor says scrapper my blood boils.

Originally Posted by scrapdaddyj

I second calling ourselves recyclers, not scrappers.
In terms of talking with plumbers and other blue collar workers versus talking to doctors and Lawyers I don't see much difference. If course it's obvious that those in the ranks of the docs and Lawyers have made themselves substantially fancier than those who labor with their hands by charging inormous fees. But I have a cousin who has future doctor written on his forehead but is helpless when it comes to working with his hands. That sums it up. Everybody lauds the docs and Lawyers because of the "advanced" education they received. But it takes a certain skill and learning to be able to have the roughness needed to deal with a nasty meesed up toilet or washer hookups and still maintain the ability to get the job done right, no leaks. That unfortunately isn't something you can't learn in a university so we don't have the ability to charge enormous fees for our top notch labor with our hands. So I don't care who I talk to. If anybody plumber or doctor says scrapper my blood boils.

Plumber or Doctor they both get you bent over!

I went to a concert on ZZ Top's "Recycler" tour back in the day. I thought I could find a you tube that showed the cool stage props like it was being shot in an auto salvage yard. Get a hint of it in this vid although the sound is lousy but I'm sure hobo and some of you others will appreciate some of the the visuals...

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?...&hsimp=yhs-001

So, yeah, "scappdaddyj", being a "recycler" (if only very part-time in my case) is fine with me!

P.S. Pick the Madison Square Garden "Legs" video from the list

I'm gonna try using the word " Recyclers " exclusively starting to day

Thank u verrry much ,needed 2 here that ! Swandersteve