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    dehumidifier's

    Dehumidifier's are good finds .Obviously when I find the old one's they have all that an AC unit has .... the main thing is it has a metal case at 100%
    Be that as it may newer Dehumidifier's have the usual as mentioned BUT basically are all plastic concerning case and all supporting structurer .
    Yes the compressors are smaller and there is less copper it seems .



    The question I put out ? dismantling the newer plastic units might be just spinning wheels as once apart the weight from plastic is significant
    this item might be best sold off as mix.

    I notice the more years I scrap the more plastic i see in other items
    AC units - Fans - Vac motors - lamps - yada yada


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    I've done 3 . I strip out the compressor, motor, wire and radiators. Then I put the plastic panels back on and toss in my shred.

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    Yea i hear ya copperhead. to me they are not worth the mess. i have other things going on , I just cut the cord and put them in a special pile at my yard

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    I bring them in as is. Im unable to recover the refrigerant, so i dont take them apart, as well as friges, ac's, water coolers. Some scrappers say they are "helping the environment" but really making it worse buy releasing refrigerant.
    Sorry, just my .02

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    The first item I ever scrapped was a dehumidifier and my neighbor gave it to me. I didn't know what anything was so I just started breaking it down and ended up getting drenched with refrigerant. Haven't scrapped one since. Too much plastic and refridgerant so they aren't worth the hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashing View Post
    I've done 3 . I strip out the compressor, motor, wire and radiators. Then I put the plastic panels back on and toss in my shred.
    Not to say scrappers don't consider the amount of plastic to metal for mix they can sell with out penalty

    And I am not going to be Holier Than Thou , cause yeah I push what can pass .But think what your admitting to -
    the compressor, motor, wire and radiators
    leaves only plastic and some dinky screws .

    Now consider nationwide scrapyards end up selling
    all our scrap to similar locations. these buyers if they see to much game playing (yards in particular)
    in the long run puts a hurt on the scrap industry
    via a lack of trust

    I for one prefer finding / selling the ratio that is acceptable and getting paid proper.

    I find when the yards get tweaked , they start watching like hawks, it's a pain in the butt.
    So universally it is our duty as scrappers to stay on the leash as we are the ones in the long run to get hurt .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copper Head View Post
    Not to say scrappers don't consider the amount of plastic to metal for mix they can sell with out penalty

    And I am not going to be Holier Than Thou , cause yeah I push what can pass .But think what your admitting to -
    the compressor, motor, wire and radiators
    leaves only plastic and some dinky screws .

    Now consider nationwide scrapyards end up selling
    all our scrap to similar locations. these buyers if they see to much game playing (yards in particular)
    in the long run puts a hurt on the scrap industry
    via a lack of trust

    I for one prefer finding / selling the ratio that is acceptable and getting paid proper.

    I find when the yards get tweaked , they start watching like hawks, it's a pain in the butt.
    So universally it is our duty as scrappers to stay on the leash as we are the ones in the long run to get hurt .
    Plastic don't matter with shred no problem I see with this...

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    Just like vaccumes. Cut the cord, smash out the motor and spread the rest out in the shred... I've only had one small old de-h and I just cut the cord and threw in the shred cuz I had a 1800lb load that day.

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    The fact to include pure plastic is not metal , To knowingly do it is to deceive , Next is the guy who replaces the motor with a brick .
    what is done with plastic should be as a saying goes - what goes on in vegas stays in vegas -- .

    I have been trained by my yard if they deem to much plastic I get docked 50 pounds for a Vac .
    So that temptation as you hold that printer ready to toss has disappointing results .
    this is how I've been trained . There is a yard that pays less that over looks glass plastic by a higher margin
    but a 1000 pounds will net $55 bucks compared to $90 my main yard .

    If i had a big roll off truck the forgiving yard would be a fine place .
    they take the car and crush into a square shape about 5000 to 6000 pounds naturally non metal items can make it into the compressed cars , they load a car then pick up the scrap from scrappers and put it all in the compressor to make uniform looking king size bricks .
    Recently I was at a yard on Long Island NY I could see they took 50 50 items from some people since they need weight at any cost .

    But I have found I am happy with my yard as they are strict and keep me on the path of high metal to plastic. They seem to pay well if not way more then others 210 per gross ton 270 for short 300 for rotors
    they watch what you do .

    I once had a post around 2011 I touted how I bought a car battery from Sears and for the core I gave them a lead acid from an emergency lamp .
    The sears guy had to take as no written provision in paper work
    ( there is a sign in shop now ) any way I was reamed a new A** H***
    for the concept of deception from members. So I have to hold true to what
    they pushed - honesty
    I say this if the yards take it cause they balance there load - then fine .
    But if you sell an item to the yard that they have to deal with as unwanted
    - it is what it is deception .
    That is some thing we don't blatantly push here .We are examples of professional metal scrapers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copper Head View Post
    Not to say scrappers don't consider the amount of plastic to metal for mix they can sell with out penalty

    And I am not going to be Holier Than Thou , cause yeah I push what can pass .But think what your admitting to -
    the compressor, motor, wire and radiators
    leaves only plastic and some dinky screws .

    Now consider nationwide scrapyards end up selling
    all our scrap to similar locations. these buyers if they see to much game playing (yards in particular)
    in the long run puts a hurt on the scrap industry
    via a lack of trust

    I for one prefer finding / selling the ratio that is acceptable and getting paid proper.

    I find when the yards get tweaked , they start watching like hawks, it's a pain in the butt.
    So universally it is our duty as scrappers to stay on the leash as we are the ones in the long run to get hurt .
    The ones I've dealt with have metal sides and bottoms. The only plastic is the front and rear panels and a half piece in the middle. Plenty of metal.

    My yard takes appliances. That means they take the plastic too. I get my cut and still leave some meat on the bone for them too. Don't group me in with ****birds that stuff with bricks and concrete.

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    The plastic needs to be attached to the metal I would not add any extra plastic even if it came off an item I was scrapping. Putting the plastic back on a gutted dehumidifier is like any other appliance when you remove the motors or wires and attach the sides back without the good stuff!

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    Yes that is true if it came with a plastic panel back it can go , I was believing it was a pure plastic dehumidifier gutted .Then put to mix load .

    How about this thekeith
    Just like vaccumes. Cut the cord, smash out the motor and spread the rest out in the shred.
    That statement can cause any owner of a yard who reads SMF to make a fast
    morning memo to yard workers No more Vacs

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    Hello!

    Good posts!

    I am looking for a good brand of dehumidifier. Can you please suggest a top of the line brand. Thanks!

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    This isn't a forum for selling dehumidifies. This threads talking about scrapping them. If u want to find one just search on eBay or something

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    I still break them down completely, even the mostly plastic ones. I think I'm just so...anal about scrapping - taking something down until it can't be broken down any more. lol, I lose sleep if I think I have ''cheated'' myself. the plastic I just throw away because my yard will accept whole vacuums so the plastic from a dehumidifier doesn't add much to my garbage in the long run.

    obviously finding the older all metal ones are great but IMO the more ''mostly plastic'' stuff I find = the more it takes to make money but in the end its still money I didn't have in my pocket before.

    I guess its just a matter of what each individual wants to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevinThaScrapper View Post
    The first item I ever scrapped was a dehumidifier and my neighbor gave it to me. I didn't know what anything was so I just started breaking it down and ended up getting drenched with refrigerant. Haven't scrapped one since. Too much plastic and refridgerant so they aren't worth the hassle.
    The first one I ever scrapped I had no idea what was in it, I asked my brother and he said its just water. So I cut the line in my garage!!!!!! Never did that again! I promptly searched the net for that item, ran across this forum and joined and learned what was what!! This forum saved me and the ozone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekeith View Post
    Just like vaccumes. Cut the cord, smash out the motor and spread the rest out in the shred... I've only had one small old de-h and I just cut the cord and threw in the shred cuz I had a 1800lb load that day.
    What about the refrigerant?

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    Most broken ones that are older have none left, the compressors don't hold much any way. But this doesn't mean you should cut the line to see, don't take any chances. Do it legal or don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devinthascrapper View Post
    most broken ones that are older have none left, the compressors don't hold much any way.
    very bad advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevinThaScrapper View Post
    Most broken ones that are older have none left, the compressors don't hold much any way.
    Devin,

    I've been holding back on the refrigerant issue for a while now after someone BIT**ED that we were reinforcing the laws too much. But this post of yours is a little too much. How do you know that most broken ones that are older have none left? Are you attempting to properly recover the refrigerant and after you've pulled the required vacuum, you realize that there was nothing there, or are you cutting the lines and hoping nothing flies? I would think twice before I posted something like this. Never know if the EPA is watching. I'd hate to see a young guy like you get fined $37,500 for the intentional release of refrigerant.

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