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    I was busting out a fast charger and did not mean to but busted the lead acid battery so i want with and recovered 3 lb lead . even though i did not weigh first I suspect it pays to leave as is , do any members take them apart for a higher return I can't confirm yet but i think more money as is



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    i have had broken batteries im not good touching acid i sell asis

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    I guess a 36 pound bat could deliver 28 lbs lead (just a guess) if so @ .50 = $12.50 that what they pay for lead in my parts

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    i get 7-10 each battery that full size car battery any smaller is reduction .its such fluctuation but i go when i get 5-6 it on way to work so not at of my way

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    My yard pays 25 cents per pound for batteries so its not worth taking a 40 pound battery apart for 8 pounds of lead for $8 if i can sell it as is for $10. Plus its not good for the environment to be disassembling batteries at home.

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    Please leave them sealed whenever possible. Unless you have a system for properly handling the acid in them. I know accidents happen, when they do, you need to dilute with lots of water as quickly as possible.
    "64K should be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates 1981
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    Even the bullet casters, who will scrounge lead where ever they can find it, don't mess with batteries. Lots of bad things can happen especially if you try to melt the lead to clean it up. Here is post from the cast boolits site.

    "The warnings about smelting automotive batteries to recover the lead they contain needs a bit of explanation. Doing so really does have the potential to harm or even kill you and here is why. Maintenance free/low maintenance batteries use calcium metal-doped lead to catalyze the hydrogen gas generated from water electrolysis back into water. That is what makes the batteries low maintenance or maintenance free, you don't need to add water to the cells as often like in the old days. When the battery lead is melted down there is enough sulfuric acid from residual electrolyte trapped in the lead dioxide and lead framework of the battery plates to react with the small amount of calcium metal in the lead alloy. Normally when sulfuric acid (or water) gets in contact with calcium metal it undergoes a rather vigorous reaction that generates hydrogen gas. In and of itself this is no big deal, hydrogen is a simple non-toxic asphyxiant that is also flammable. But the lead alloy used in batteries also contains a bit of antimony and even arsenic to help harden and strengthen the lead to withstand the vibration and general knocking-about batteries have to withstand in order to survive normal automotive use. When hydrogen comes in contact with arsenic and antimony, or compounds of these two elements, the hydrogen reacts to form ammonia analogues called arsine and stibine, AsH3 and SbH3. Both of these are heavy gases and both have the similar characteristic odors of rotting fish. In World War One the Germans experimented with these, along with phosphine, another rotting-fish-smelling gaseous ammonia analogue with formula PH3, as war gases. As such they were highly effective since they are deadly in amounts too small to easily detect. In even smaller amounts that are too small to immediately kill they cause rather painful lung damage that often eventually leads to emphysema and lung cancer.
    So, leave smelting car batteries or using lead smelted from them to professional recyclers. Many folks including myself have successfully smelted batteries and lived to tell about it, but the risk is just too great to mess with the stuff." The link is here Why Car Batteries Are Dangerous - Cast Boolits

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    Since I have 12 or so small Lead acid Bat's I did want to officially see the gain .
    I used two Bat's @ 6 lb each after tear down I had 4.5 Lead the price structure by me is as follows - Lead is .40 PER # / Bat's are .26 PER #
    A gain of only .24 / hardly worth the trouble - Yet spot price for lead is .97 # but gotta be a big roller for that

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    I sell my batteries to a core buyer for $10 each. he groups smaller ones together to equal one unit. can be a pain, because if i only have batteries, i have to meet him instead of him meeting me, but definately better that $.10lb at my scrap yard.

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    batteries

    I sell mine in trailer load quantity. It takes longer to get a load but when I do its .40 to .45 per lb. You should always sell by the pound if you can that way its more fair to you the seller.

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    One yard by me pays $9 for the large Bat's & 2 small = one $9 - in general lead is down in price a bit
    I like the idea of stocking up with lead for future as it takes little room for it shear weight .


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