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    Hard Drive Arm

    What do you all do with them?:confused:


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    I knock the center out of mine and throw them in my cast alum. tote.
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    I have a small bag of them. I pop the copper of the end and throw that in my #2 bucket, but still have the rest in a bag in the garage. Will probably end up with the mixed aluminum when there is enough.

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    I read they are made from magnesium.

    'Ping' it, the sound goes on for ages compared to Ali, sorta like a tuning fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eesakiwi View Post
    I read they are made from magnesium.

    'Ping' it, the sound goes on for ages compared to Ali, sorta like a tuning fork.
    Yet another reason that I pop the copper out of the end and save the rest on the side for later.

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    Great question, I was thinking about it yesterday. I hope we get a definitive answer. Mike.

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    tryin to save enough og those to make $ would be kinds like savin enough bees knees for dinner.

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    mmmmmmmm......bee knees......yum

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    I have had a look around the net about Magnesium & found that some say that,
    "If you put a drop of vinegar on Ali it does nothing & if you put a drop on Magnesium it bubbles a lot."

    If you do the same with a Silver nitrate solution (its probably hard to get, Chemists maybe?)
    On Ali it does nothing, on Magnesium it turns black & leaves a black spot on the metal. (precipitation of silver)

    Magnesium burns brightly when touched with a welders flame (Oxy/Acetylene-probably! Butane?)
    Ali dosen't. I sorta guessed that too.....

    Prices for Magnesium seem to be hard to find, our scrappers don't buy it, but wouldn't know the difference if you put it in with the Ali anyway.

    One price I did get, from http://www.armetalrecyclers.com/scrap-metal-prices.html
    is $US3.20 a Kg (gee, mixed metric again...) NZ$4 a Kg. Or.....
    US$1.45 - Lb

    Theres a lot of mentions of 'water not putting out a magnesium fire', I knew that, I better find a better place to store mine now. I just have it in a sack outside.
    I have noticed that when it corrodes (rusts) it leaves big 'spots' of built up powder.
    Ali just corrodes in patches & from edges & bends etc.

    This site has a lot of good info about the recycling of most metals, even titanium..
    http://www.themetalcasting.com/magnesium-scrap.html
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    Magnesium will do these things and is very flammable as you say, however these are not the properties of it's alloys. Most of its alloys are alloyed with aluminium anyway, increasing its strength whilst keeping its low density. It's alloys are perfectly safe to store as normal. It is highly unlikely that the average person will come into contact with pure magnesium scrap as it will come with a highly flammable hazard symbol and isn't used to make items on it's own. If you do it is most likely you will see it in flares as it is used in powder form in the signal flare cartridges. Aluminium will react with silver nitrate though how long it takes depends on how thick it's oxide layer is.

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    Lol, well I'm glad someone asked this and I'm still confused but I had just been tossing them in with my aluminum after popping the centers out.

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    If it's magnesium, grind it up and mix with rust to make Thermite and sell at gun shows.

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    Some arms have a gold plated ridge on the bottom side. I keep mine with the little ribbon wire and the end connector, which is usually gold plated as well......

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    Here is the most informative answer I have come across on hard drives. A long read, but worth it.

    Let's start by looking at the phsycial structure of a hard drive. The
    drive comes in a metal enclosure that's usually made of aluminum. On
    the back of the drive are various connectors for power and data which
    are made of aluminum and plastic (occasionally there's a bit of gold
    coating the connectors). The bottom of the drive often has an exposed
    circuit board which may in some cases have extremely small amounts of
    gold in the traces, though more usually the traces would be aluminum.
    This gold (if it's present) is wedged between the plastic layers of
    the circuit board and would be nearly impossible to access. Attached
    to the board are a few integrated circuits (black squares or
    rectangles) that may contain extremely small gold wires. Again,
    accessing them would be nearly impossible.

    Inside the drive sits a motor to spin the platter, one or more
    platters that store data, and an arm that moves across the disk to
    read and write data. The motors, while of extremely high quality,
    would not have any material of value. The arm is made of aluminum or
    other lightweight alloys. At the tip of the arm sits the read/write
    head which would not typically be composed of particularly valuable
    materials either. Attached to the arm is a ribbon cable which may have
    some tiny amount of gold in the traces, but again it would be
    impractical to retrieve it. The movement of the arms is controlled by
    a voice coil actuator, an electromechanical system that uses magnets
    to position the read/write head on the drive. The mechanism uses
    strong magnets but does not involve any precious metals.

    The final major component of the hard drive, as well as the most
    prominent one, is the platter (or platters, as some drives have
    multiple platters stacked above each other). In early hard drives
    platters were made of aluminum, but in newer drives they're made of
    glass or a glass composite. Information stored on hard drives is
    stored magnetically, so an extremely thin (just microns thick) layer
    of magnetic material is applied to the glass. The material on older
    drives is mostly composed of iron oxide, more commonly known as rust.
    This is, as you can guess, pretty much worthless. Newer drives use a
    thin film technology that applies different magnetic materials (cobalt
    alloys) to the platter. In order to achieve higher data density a
    further layer of material is added that stabilizes the magnetic
    properties of the magnetic layer. This additional layer is composed of
    Ruthenim, a Platium group metal that is very valuable. But here again
    it's applied in such minute quantities that retrieving it would be all
    but impossible.

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    I use them for making models. Bikes and power claws for my 40k orks

    Or the misc alu bucket.

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    Leave them inside the hard drive. I still don't understand why people want to turn a brick of dirty Aluminum into a pile of dirty Aluminum before they sell it. To each his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuburnEwaste View Post
    Leave them inside the hard drive. I still don't understand why people want to turn a brick of dirty Aluminum into a pile of dirty Aluminum before they sell it. To each his own
    Actually, you are turning it into a nice hunk of cast aluminum, a platter or two, and a couple of rare earth magnets. The latter 2 sell pretty well on e-bay. The cast is much higher than dirty.
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    what tips do you mostly use for those ? they're much tinier than tips i've got

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    you need to buy tips 6/7/8/9/10 i bought the bit drivers to use on the drill at harbor freight. I gave up tearing them apart a long time ago. Most e waste buyers are paying close to cast price for the whole unit minus the board

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    I get MLC for them without the board, which is the same as extrusion price.


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